PS3 steam upgrade reverse issue.

Is there any chance that the connectors to the front and rear headlights are reversed? If so, when the engine is first started up and running the rear headlight toweled be on.

A second possibility is that the motor wires are reversed.

In either case, the front and rear coupler buttons should operate properly.

Barry, unless I'm crazy everything was right earlier. I loaded a Ps3 production file with chain files. Could this be the problem? I noticed the issue when I change from, Oil to Coal.

The backup light stays on in either direction. Earlier it was changing with direction. I verified direction in convention mode a day ago.

Yes the rear coupler fires correctly.

Mike

So I bit the bullet and reversed the motor leads. Works great except tail lamp is always on. Am I wrong that it should be off in the forward direction?

Maybe I've convinced myself to follow a bad thought process.

Thanks,

Mike

Dazed and Confused

Mike,

Prior to reversing the motor leads, did the engine startup in the correct direction, forward. If so, the motor leads were correct and the issue is only the backup light.

If everything was OK before loading the production chain file, I suggest that you put the motor wires back as they were and reload the original, upgrade, chain file. The production chain file would assume all lights were LEDs and would treat them as such rather than as bulbs, while the update chain file would assume bulbs were present.

Is the tender light an LED or a bulb? If it's a bulb, that could account for the issue with the backup light and other hardware anomalies.

What benefit were you seeking by changing the chain file?

You can not load PS-3 production Chain files into a PS-3 steam upgrade kit board.  That board is a diesel PS-3 board with the adapter for lights.  A Real PS-3 steam has a boiler board and a tender board.  The chain file is looking to communicate with a boiler board which doesn't exist.

This has been discussed multiple times.  Only load PS-3 sound files with a PS-32 Board set.  The PS-3 Steam kit is a PS-32 board set.

You need to go back and load the PS-32 chain file for Steam.  G

To Barry yes everything functioned properly at one time. 

To GGG, when you say PS-32 chain file are you talking about the PS3 upgrade set.

I'm working on a premier Challenger. The box doesn't have the part number on it. So I'm assuming it's an old MT- series.

I tried reloading a PS2.0 production file nothing changed.

I really thought I understood all of this, maybe not so much now.

Mike

For my next question. Can the wrong sound file damage the upgrade board?

Is there in print a do's and don'ts for sound file loading.

Barry, I got the 3rd edition Friday. Thanks. I'm going to pass 1st edition on to someone else who may need it.

Mike

I went through this a while back on an upgrade I was doing. The ps32 boards, or the boards in a kit, come preloaded with their own chain file. You will have to download the ps32 chain file back into your boards. One of the guys on here helped me when I had this problem. I'm not computer savvy enough, or I would help you.

I'm hoping someone will direct me to the PS-32 chain files.

Thanks:

Mike

I,m not really crazy after all!

p.s. Don't ask my wife.

Winger, there is no chain file available for a PS3 steam upgrade kit.  The steam PS3 upgrade kit is completely different than the PS3 factory steam boards.  The diesel upgrade kits are identical to the factory boards, but not the steam.  Try the PS2 sound file.

I wrote the Ps3 sound file and chain files into the PS3/2. How do I undo it? 3.0 upgrade or 2.0 files didn't fix problems.

Mike

I would try just going ahead and loading the PS2 sound file.  I think the chain file wouldn't take, and sound files erase prior files.

Thanks to everyone who responded. I am a lot wiser now then when I started.

MTH so graciously sent me the Steam 32 chain files this morning and everything is back to normal. 

They even admitted that some of the kits shipped out may not have had the files from the factory.

I even had to undo the engine rewire that was done when I mucked everything up.

Like my old boss used to say," If you're not doing anything wrong, then you're not doing anything."

Regards,

Mike

RJR posted:

Winger, there is no chain file available for a PS3 steam upgrade kit.  The steam PS3 upgrade kit is completely different than the PS3 factory steam boards.  The diesel upgrade kits are identical to the factory boards, but not the steam.  Try the PS2 sound file.

That is incorrect, there is a specific chain file for the PS/3 steam kit using the PS32 board.

Then I stand corrected.  When using ps3 upgrade kits, I don't recall ever loading a chain file.

You normally shouldn't have to, they come with the correct chain file.  However, there are apparently occasions where the wrong chain file is in the board.  However, in this case, he loaded an incorrect chain file during the installation.

Typically PS-32 boards come with the diesel version of the Test All Chain File (SD-70ACe).  The Steam kits should have the PS-32 Steam file, but early kits did not.

Since I always load on the bench tester I can see if the unit has directional lights. If so I know the diesel file is installed and I load the Steam set.  G

Winger, why did you have to get the steam chain file from MTH? Isn't it available on their website?

Dave, Even though I've been dealing with software for 40+ years. Then DCS arena was new to me. I didn't understand the upgrade process well enough. Even after searching the form, apparently I didn't ask the right search questions.

The upgrade is called a 3.0 upgrade but it's really a PS-3/2 upgrade. Some of the 3.0 features but you use 2.0 sound files.

The boards are preloaded with PS32 Sound and Chain files. The chain files affect different parts of operation. In my case the engine was per the posts above backwards with the backup light on constantly.

This was because I loaded the 3.0 sound file and chain files. 2.0 doesn't have chain files embedded in them. The only way to get them is call MTH or have a Tech give them to you.

Got the files reloaded them plus the 2.0 sound files and everything is now fine. It was really frustrating because of the lack of proper documentation (in my mind).  For example one Diesel manual says use 3.0 files. The steam says use 2.0. Hence my confusion.

If you've read through all the posts then you can tell my frustration. But all is well now.

I have retained the chain files for future issues. I also provided Gunrunnerjohn with copies to compare with what he has.

That's about it in the nutshell. If I've made any gross errors, someone will respond. on this topic.

Hope this helps.

Mike