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I have some questions about how to wire and install resistors and diodes on led street lights and Lampposts. 

 

I searched the forum  for some information about this but came back with information overload and couldn’t find specific information for what I was trying to do. 

I don’t have a lot of experience with electronics so please bear with me. 

 

I wanted to wire up led street lamps and lamposts that I purchased through eBay from a supplier (We Honest) located in China.  I had previously purchased and installed some signals that are attached to relays from this supplier.  Gunrunner John was a big help for me in getting these to work.  And they work great!

 

 

The supplier provided the street lamps with the resistors, but I’m not sure how to wire the lights up together.

Information on the lights below:

 

Lamppost Street Light

 

The operating specifications are listed as the same for both the lampposts and the street lights.

  • Made with 3V clear white SMD LEDs
  • These Lampposts are suitable for use at supply voltages of 3V DC only. 
  • DO NOT use them on 12V or 16V directely to avoid damaging the LED, you must connect a resistor in series before you use them on 12V or 16V, 
  • Operating Voltage for each LED lamppost = 3V  ( DC only )
  • Operating Current for each LED lamppost = 20mA

 

I was going to power the LEDs with a 14V fixed AC transformer with the output routed through the below LM317 module.  Then adjust the DC voltage down to a suitable operating range with it.

 

LM317

Specifications LM317:


Input: DC 0V ~ 30V / AC 0V ~ 22V
Output: DC 1.25V ~ 28V
Output current: 2A Max.
The minimum differential between input and output: 3V, input must be higher than the output voltage above 3V to be regulated. Buck, not boost, when input 5V output 1.25V ~ 2V, not 6V.
Circuit board size: 69 x 50 x 27mm ( L x W x H )

Note: Due to the digital voltage display module operating voltage is 3V, only when the voltage is higher than 3V to display properly

The Lamposts have a white and black wire or Red and White wire  here is a pic;

 

IMG_3786

 

Here are the supplied resistors.

 

IMG_3788

 

How should I wire these? 

 

Do the white wires of each light get wired together?

 

Do I solder the resistor onto the red or black wire of each lamppost and street light?

 

Which band of the resistor faces towards the light Brown or Gold? 

 

Do I place a 1N4001 diode in-line with the resistor? (Band toward the resistor)

 

How many of these lampposts and street lights can be wired together using the LM317 module?

 

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ai... I am no expert in the field for sure, and always ask GRJ and Stan2004 for help when it comes to this stuff. I almost bought those same lamps that you did, but they didn't fit the look I was going for, so I built my own using some SMD LEDs. The application/wiring is the same though. 

 

LED lamp posts

 

I mounted the posts with a finish nail, and drill a hole right behind the post to run the wires through the layout. I used red/black wires just because that's what I had.

 

I soldered a resistor to the red leg of each light underneath the layout. I used a 150 ohm resistor because again, that's what I had. You could also solder the resistor to the black wire, doesn't make a difference. I just did all red.

 

Then I twisted the ends of all the reds together, and all the blacks together, and then connected the red and black to the voltage regulator/convertor module similar to the one you have pictured. 

 

Make sure your regulator output is adjusted to the DC voltage you need, BEFORE you connect the lamps, and that is based on the size of resistor they sent you.

 

It doesn't matter which way the resistor faces.... I do them all the same, but it doesn't matter what end is what.

 

No need to use a diode.

 

You can connect/run many of those lamps off of 1 of those modules.

 

Now I won't talk about watts, mA, series wiring, parallel wiring, current draw, ohms, and all that technical data, cuz it really doesn't mean anything to me. I just learned the hard way that LEDs are very sensitive to more voltage than required, even by 1 tenth of a volt. So you really need to know what size the resistor is they sent you with those lights. I'm sure GRJ and Stan, and several others can tell you by looking at the picture you posted.  

  

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Laidoff: Thanks for the information, your layout looks fantastic!

 

Stan2004: Yes, I ordered two of the LM317 modules, they should be here on Monday. Eventually I will have other lights (LED's) tied into this streetlight electrical "Grid".  

 

I say eventually because I don't have the area in a "Finished" state.  I'm installing what I have to in order to finish the area that lies below an elevated line of track.

 

It's easier to install this now than later when the EL is assembled above this area.

 

26 street lights total so far.   

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Thanks Gunrunner!

 

Are these 1K resistors? (See Photo Below) 

 

If I add additional lights in the future (Same Specs as above) would it be better to go with a separate "Grid" (LM Module and power supply) or can this "Grid" handle more?

 

If the specs of the LM module are: Input: DC 0V ~ 30V / AC 0V ~ 22V  -  Output: DC 1.25V ~ 28V  -  Output current: 2A Max, 

 

If the Output current is 2A max then the limit of the LM module would be approx. 2000 mA?  So that is why the 260mA is no issue?

 

Thanks for all the help! 

 

Last edited by O Scale Ange
Originally Posted by ai:
The Lamposts have a white and black wire or Red and White wire

 

I think most of your questions have been answered except this one.

 

I found what I think are your lamps on the wehonest ebay store but can't for the life of me figure out which wire is "+" and which is "-".  As you've obviously figured out from yoru question, it will light up one way and not the other (LEDs are "DC" devices so polarity matters).

 

My suggestion is as follows:

 

1. Attach at 1K resistor to the "+" screw-terminal output of the LM317 module.

2. Power up the LM317 module with your 14VAC accessory output.

3. Dial up the voltage until the display reads 5V (or so).

4. Take the 2 wires from a streetlight, and touch touch one wire to the "-" screw-terminal output and the other wire to the 1K resistor.  The streetlight will light up, albeit dimly, in only one orientation.  This will determine which wire color is "+" and which is "-".

 

Now you know which color wire is "+" for each streetlamp version.

 

As LOS says, it doesn't matter which wire you solder the 1K resistor to...but to insure world peace, you minds as well be consistent and put the resistor on, say, the "+" wire.

 

Once you know the polarity of your lamps you can mess with the voltage level to find a suitable brightness.  5V will light them up dimly and the brightness of an individual streetlight will not change as you add more lights.  I figure you'll find a voltage in the 10 to 12V range to be suitable.

 

One advantage of using a voltage in this range is you've probably read here about the amazingly low-priced LED "strips" that run around 12V.  These have mostly been used for passenger car lights but are great for building interior lights, station platform lights, you name it.  You might find you can tap into your streetlight power "grid" to light these too.

 

As you correctly concluded, 2A=2000mA so powering "only" 260mA is not going to break the bank.

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