Attempting to update my DCS TIU-seems my MTH WIU doesn’t see my TIU. 

That failed. 

So I bought an RS-232 9 pin cable-only to learn my PC has no RS-242 port. 

Went to LHS -no success there-he couldn’t load drivers on his PC. 

My DCS remote has an issue with the wheel-which I am going to repair, but I want to utilize my WIU and upgraded App  

Anyone have a solution or the program on a CD?

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The MTH DCS website has a lot of info and more so in Barry Boskowitz's DCS books.  MTH explains and links to their recommended 9pin serial to USB adaptor(s) and there are a number of threads w/i the DCS sections of this forum that both guide and provide online links to those products you might need.  Also a quick amazon search for 9 pin serial to USB pulls up a bunch that you can pick from and likely have delivered w/i a day or two.

You can have a steam train ...If you'd just lay down your tracks.

Keystone posted:

The MTH DCS website has a lot of info and more so in Barry Boskowitz's DCS books.  MTH explains and links to their recommended 9pin serial to USB adaptor(s) and there are a number of threads w/i the DCS sections of this forum that both guide and provide online links to those products you might need.  Also a quick amazon search for 9 pin serial to USB pulls up a bunch that you can pick from and likely have delivered w/i a day or two.

Unfortunately this is not an MTH issue, per se, it’s a computer/windows issue. 

 

The driver upgrade comes from the MTH website. 

As does every other patch one might need on their DCS WIU System. 

Second what others said. Might be the adaptor. Another option would be to temporarily disable driver/USB security settings (done through custom restart on WIN10). I don't recall doing this to update my TIU and remote, but I had to for another device for gaming.

 

 

Did you try these Windows USB drivers from the MTH website? 

These drivers solved a problem some were having a few years ago with USB and Rev L TIUs, the reason MTH posted the link to them.

mort1345 posted:

I had been using a win 7 laptop and the USB Serial Adapter and it (the adapter)  would not work with my WIN 10 computer even after a driver update.

Picked up a new adapter and it worked fine.

Mort

 

I’m using the USB cable that came with my TIU. 

BUT, at the LHS, he tried to download the MTH DRIVERS, and couldn’t. 

But, initial tests of the TIU showed no issues. 

 

A CD with the drivers would resolve this issue. 

So, I can not tell who is more inept- the idiot at MTH who created this TIU DCS downloading disaster-plug and play my butt. 

Or, the idiots at Microsoft who cannot give accurate directions on how to gain access to be the Administrator on the computer that when you log in-clearly says you are logging in as the Administrator. 

When attempting to install usb driver upgrade from MTH the pc says “requires elevation”

so you search for that-it says “log into computer with administrator account”

Which I clearly am logged into the computer as the administrator  

so, you search how to change administrator settings-and you get more useless information about what can happen if you change these settings 

and all I want to do is update the drivers so I don’t get an error box telling me my ISB cannot recognize my device  

 

lot of F-big BULLCRAP

 

 

rtr12 posted:

You should be able to right click on the file you are trying to run and select 'Run as Administrator' from the drop down menu.

Yes, you would believe it is just that simple, but not in my reality. 

Im using my wife’s laptop-so, there is a whole level of Bull sh-t involved. 

Because she believes every program will destroy her computer and my access to everything is of grave concern. 

I even logged into her Microsoft account she set up when she first got the device 

and there is next to no information for anyone who doesn’t have x amount of experience and expertise with the language of the binary and hexadecimal realms. 

I can dismantle any electrical device and rebuild it-but speeking geek is not my forte. 

Its exhausting to me

Not sure even Microsoft knows how Windows really works? They can't possibly keep track of that code it uses these days. Not to mention what all is in the registry possibly messing things up. 

I can sympathize with all the security measures that one can have, I probably couldn't get through those either. I hate working on other people's computers, my wife's and daughter's included. Maybe a format and re-install of Windows would be in order? This time without all the extra security? Of course this could get you in big trouble with the wife, so it may not be worth it! 

1drummer posted:

So, I can not tell who is more inept- the idiot at MTH who created this TIU DCS downloading disaster-plug and play my butt. 


 

I agree completely. Put it on a USB stick and plug it in.

John

Located in the real Upstate NY

Casey Jones2 posted:

Which DCS Consumer Loader version are you using?? 

The latest. 

Which downloaded just as expected 

I contacted Midge at MTH, via email, she forwarded it to Jason. 

I sent him a video of my TIU/WIU at startup-

his response 

“Looks like your TIU USB port has a problem. Since you can’t do much with a WIU without a TIU it would be best if we could take a look at them. I can issue you an RA for those pieces. We won’t have them long I wouldn’t imagine.“

So, along with “driver download syndrome”, I have a TIU that “the USB jack on the TIU the TIU's processor uses the 5V USB bus voltage to turn the TIU's processor on.”

 

So, I get to be without the ability to run my trains-and I have just replaced my Remotes Thumbwheel assembly-which apparently now, can no longer be acquired  from MTH-just the cradle.  

And I won’t be able to do this(because while I have power blocks, I don’t have a way to isolate the power)

but, I do have 24’ of Yard to build.  

https://youtu.be/oxnwFfhcYC0

 

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