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In 1930, with the onset of world wide depression, Hornby (Mecanno) like other toy manufacturers had to face a customer base with far lower budgets for discretionary spending, for things like toys.  Their solution, just like Lionel and American Flyer, was to bring out a lower priced line to make it easier to buy trains.  In their case the line was called M0 which was 0 gauge but a smaller scale than their regular line (primary curve radius was 1 ')  although as the years passed it did become a full line with appropriately sized stations, cross overs, switches , and signals.  Pictured below is the 1930 M0 offering.  The locomotive never had either leading or trailing trucks or drive rods, it was clockwork as were most Hornby trains, and it came in both red and green.  The lithographed Pullman cars were named "Zena" and "Joan" for unknown reasons but with exception to a late change in the color of the roof, remained the same and in the line until war production caused a stop.

Hornby M0 - full train

In honor of "Tail End Tuesday" here are the tail ends of Zena and Joan , note the clear marking for Hornby, Mecanno Ltd, LIverpool.  You may wonder why, given that Hornby trains were for the most part clockwork, they had to bring out a lower priced line.  If you were to review the status of the 1920's you would find that Hornby, despite being mostly clockwork, were most certainly NOT inexpensive.  They were very high quality and finished beautifully.   The clockwork motors had track control, brakes, speed governors, and were very long running.  Thus like the other manufacturers when the Depression dawned, they had to make adjustments.

Hornby M0 - coaches end printing

Happy T.E.T.

Don

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It is 1949 and the photographer could not have asked for a better day to get pictures.  This cabin has the Chrome Yellow handholds per the mandate released earlier in the year, but still has its brown roof.  Apparently this cabin had no roof leaks so the roof was never tarred.

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Weaver C1, Atlas X-26c boxcar, and Lionel N5b cabin.

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@pennsyfan- Hey thank you for the compliment, I feel the same way about being compared with yours

@trumptrain- Hey Patrick, when I looked at your 3rd picture I saw the "Patapasco & Black River" gondola...was that a commercial item or did you make it special or have someone make it?  Never saw it before, could you post a full picture?

OK Bob broke the ice today with some "oldies" so here is another.  In 1948 if your Mom was so afraid of you playing with electricity (plug into the wall OMG!) your choice might be the Schilling all plastic, battery powered steamer.  Here is a view of the "tail end" to honor T.E.T. and a view of the entire train.  I am not fully sure, but I do not believe Schilling ever expanded their line...this train was the only offering I believe and by 1950 they were gone (at least from the toy train business I have only been able to find advertisements for 1947-48-& 49 for this train)

Schilling loco tail end pictureSchilling full train

Best Wishes

Don

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@trumptrain- Hey Patrick, when I looked at your 3rd picture I saw the "Patapasco & Black River" gondola...was that a commercial item or did you make it special or have someone make it?  Never saw it before, could you post a full picture?





Best Wishes

Don

Don - the gondola is a Williams item.  I own two of the P&BR gons.  Lionel also made a full scale P&BR gondola which i never purchased because the price over my budget.  I'll try to get a photo up of the Williams P&BR gon by this weekend.  

My tail-ender for Tuesday May 7, 2024 is Pennsylvania N5C cabin car #477879.

According to the MTH website, this model is Railking 30-7730 and was delivered in March 2000. However, the added-on handrails, sprung trucks, conductor in the cupola, and other details are typical of a Premier model.

Data on the car says it was built in March 1941 and the wheel bearings were last repacked in February 1959.

Photos and video show the car running on my 10’-by-5’ layout at the tail end of a train pulled by PRR G-5s Ten-Wheeler #5740, an MTH model (20-3031-1) delivered in March 1999. I’ve been running this engine for 25 years but this may be the first time I’ve run this caboose.

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Here's my rear for this fine Tuesday! ... The rear of a Ma & Pa Sw1.  

AND for Don McErlean, who commented on the P&BR gondola last Tuesday, when I showed it with the back end of P&BR VO1000  ...  A couple photos angles of a Patapsco and Back Rivers gondola taken of the side of the car. This car is a Williams product of which I have two, since I also model the P&BR.   The photo angle makes the car look much longer than it actually is.  At least the bottom photo captures the rear of the car, so as to qualify for this thread .. lol! IMG_0717IMG_0992IMG_0991

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@trumptrain-Thanks for the pictures of that gondola Mate!

Here is an early Marx train for today's T.E.T.  This is a group of "Bogota" passenger coaches with the short, silver lithographed frame and Joy Line couplers dating them from 1934-1935.

Bogota Cars - Early 1

Here is the front end of the same train, pulled with the ever present "Commodore Vanderbilt" #597 locomotive which was available from 1934 to 1952.  However the black wagon top, 8 wheel tender, is from 1934 and 8 wheel, 6 inch cars of any sort never returned after the war.  So my guess is that the entire train is circa 1934-1935 (after 1935 the Joy Line couplers were replaced with the far more common tab/slot couplers).

Bogota Cars - Early 2

Best Wishes everyone

Don

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@pennsyfan- Hey thank you for the compliment, I feel the same way about being compared with yours

@trumptrain- Hey Patrick, when I looked at your 3rd picture I saw the "Patapasco & Black River" gondola...was that a commercial item or did you make it special or have someone make it?  Never saw it before, could you post a full picture?

OK Bob broke the ice today with some "oldies" so here is another.  In 1948 if your Mom was so afraid of you playing with electricity (plug into the wall OMG!) your choice might be the Schilling all plastic, battery powered steamer.  Here is a view of the "tail end" to honor T.E.T. and a view of the entire train.  I am not fully sure, but I do not believe Schilling ever expanded their line...this train was the only offering I believe and by 1950 they were gone (at least from the toy train business I have only been able to find advertisements for 1947-48-& 49 for this train)

Schilling loco tail end pictureSchilling full train

Best Wishes

Don

I have one of the yellow passenger cars. Found it cheap at a swap meet in Meridian MS some years ago. Didn't know what it was, but its combo of toy and realism (note the details) is something that always tickles my fancy. I since found out from a tinplate friend. I have considered turning it into a short static streetcar with paint and other "attentions", but I dunno - it's kind of sharp by itself; screams "flat car/gondola load".

@D500-Hey you know I personally am a big fan of making something useful out of (almost) nothing.  Both your ideas sound neat for that Schilling car.  You know its strange, but this set, although relatively well known, must not have met the manufacturer's sales expectations.  I can find no sales reference for it beyond 1947 and 1948 and as far as I know they never made any additional cars or even the same cars in different colors.

Good luck with your mod

Don

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