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       I'm trying to get the most out of my Weaver F6A Baltic steam engine smoke unit.

       I installed Gunrunner Johns superchuffer and with his help got it working great.

       This steamer has a TAS turbo smoke unit with the thermistor. The thermistor is definitely doing it's job by shutting off power to the main resistor when it gets hot.

       Trouble is, it seems to shut off power for to long. Maybe 15 seconds go by with no smoke whatsoever until the resistor gets hot enough again to produce smoke.

       After the unit warms up, the thermistor cycles on and off so much the main resistor never really gets hot enough to effectively produce smoke. A little but not much.

       I've repositioned the thermistor to include, near the resistor, away from the resisitor, up high out of the batting, down low in the batting and fluid and even in the path of the incoming cool air from the fan. Nothing seems to effect it's on and off cycle.

      A search turned up no really useful results other than not a good idea to bypass the thermistor.

       Curios, what does the thermistor protect ? The main heating resistor from burning or the driving circuit from the mother board?

      Any help greatly appreciated,  

                                                                                Thanks Dan

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     I'll have to search for a schematic. 

     I'm not good with electronics at all. Well I'm good at releasing the inner smoke of components but I'd like to avoid that this time.

     From what I can tell, this is a NTC thermistor. Meaning as heat goes up, resistance goes down.

     Putting probes on the thermistor shows voltage full time. I don't recall how much, maybe four or five volts constant. The main resistor though shows a cycle on and off again I don't recall how many volts. 4,5 maybe 6 volts.

      I'll search for some schematics.

                                                                                           Dan

I agree with the previous post, I think moving it away from the heater should solve the problem.  I have a couple of these smoke units in my parts box, and when I run them on the bench, the heater cycles, but I never lose smoke, the cycle is pretty quick.  They also don't have much wicking in them, perhaps you have too much and that affects the sensing.  I was surprised when I first took one of these apart.

      Thanks for the replies.

      I did replace the original wicking with some pink insulation, perhaps I've put to much in.

      The heater does cycle pretty quick, seems like too quick with the heater element never getting hot enough to produce smoke once the whole unit warms up.

       I'll remove some wicking and see how that goes.

                                                                                   Thanks again, Dan

     Casey Jones, I did move the thermistor away from the resistor element. 

      I didn't notice an improvement. Once the unit begins to cycle it never really warms up the resistor again. 

      Gunrunner John, I did remove a good amount of wicking and it did smoke better at first  until the cycling began then it just stays too cool to form much smoke.

      Soooooooooo, I clipped off the thermistor with the intention of lengthening the leads to stuff the bead way up by the fan hoping to keep it cool. Before I did that though I put the top back on and gave it a shot.

      SMOKE, good smoke, lots of smoke however the resistor never shuts off. I ran it that way about 5 minutes. I took the top off and everything still looked good. No charring, resistor looked good but clearly if it runs low on fluid things are gonna burn up.

       I suppose even if the fluid level doesn't get too low it might still burn something up.

       It's been a fun experiment so far.

                                                                                              Dan       

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