sncf231e posted:

H0 factory painted brass model by OMI:

This is the most accurate version of the CNJ 831-835 series Pacifics I have ever seen. 

Not to pick on our MTH version Melgar, but while is it a very nice version of this locomotive it does not accurately capture the Wooten firebox as the HO OMI version does above.  I know I'm being overly picky, but I've been wanting an accurate CNJ Pacific for some time for my personal layout, specifically as operated in the early 50's until they were retired in 1953.

Also Camelback 592 pulled the BC at times in the later years.  An O Camelback Atlantic would be a nice addition to any passenger oriented steam era layout.

The bigger issue has always been the cars.  The baggage, baggage-coach, coaches, and observations were built new for the train by Bethlehem Ship Builders and while 72' is the correct length, they ran on AAR 4 wheel trucks and the windows are not paired as shown in nearly every heavyweight car produced in O.  These cars and many similar ones formed the backbone of CNJ's commuter operations.  There are real life examples in excursion service all over the country now, but no reasonable models.  The diner as many know was a 1880's  wood Pullman palace car that was converted by adding sheet steel to the outside to match the rest of the train.  It was an 80' car complete with its original truss rod body.  

Again, I only state this as it interests me to get an accurate set someday.  We all enjoy trains differently so seeing all the versions of this train is quite fun! 

Jonathan Peiffer

 

I'm well aware of the apparent inaccuracy of the firebox on the MTH engine. I believe that the MTH Premier Blue Comet Pacific model was built on the MTH Premier New York Central Hudson chassis which, of course, is set up for a four-wheeled trailing truck. As a result, the two-wheeled trailing truck on the Blue Comet is placed too far aft. Thus, the trailing axle is too far behind the rear driving axle and the firebox is too long - by about an inch if I my recall is correct. It's still an impressive model in my opinion.

MELGAR

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I agree, for what is out there in the mass produced market, it is a very fine model.  Was tempted by a two rail version recently but lack of available funding held me back. 

Maybe this engine, or perhaps the entire train, would have a sufficient market for Sunset/3rd Rail.

MELGAR

One would be hard pressed to come up with a train/locomotive that has endured more indignity in model offerings than the Blue Comet, from pre-War Standard Gauge versions to today's offerings.  No idea why this is, but it is so.  Would love to see an accurate model of this fine train produced in 2R O-Scale, but not holding my breath.  Closest approach for today's O-Scaler would be the 2 rail MTH engine with Walthers repainted passenger cars, although the dining car still represents a challenge.  The train never had an RPO or a Pullman, despite model offerings.  

I've been working on Scott Mann off and on to offer a set in O scale, but with a likely limited production run for the locomotive and the cars, it would have to be a brass offering.  Something in the range of 75 sets would probably go forward, maybe 50 in this market, but the price would run about $1600 for the locomotive or more and likely $400+ a car.  I'd like to see the set offered in the 1940's and early 50's commuter paint too less the diner as that is the era I model in two rail.  That means two sets for me! 

If there was enough interest in seeing the CNJ coach-combine-baggage-observation cars in the roughly 5-6 paint schemes they wore in service to get about 2000 cars are so, they could be done in plastic as well at a more favorable price.  The coaches ran up into 1983 on the Raritan Valley Line.  One of the observations ran until 1975 to Phillipsburg and the 1975 steam special used the same cars also less the combine and baggage as I recall.  I was only 6 when it went through my hometown.

  

Jonathan Peiffer

 

GG1 4877 posted:

I've been working on Scott Mann off and on to offer a set in O scale, but with a likely limited production run for the locomotive and the cars, it would have to be a brass offering.  Something in the range of 75 sets would probably go forward, maybe 50 in this market, but the price would run about $1600 for the locomotive or more and likely $400+ a car.  I'd like to see the set offered in the 1940's and early 50's commuter paint too less the diner as that is the era I model in two rail.  That means two sets for me! 

If there was enough interest in seeing the CNJ coach-combine-baggage-observation cars in the roughly 5-6 paint schemes they wore in service to get about 2000 cars are so, they could be done in plastic as well at a more favorable price.  The coaches ran up into 1983 on the Raritan Valley Line.  One of the observations ran until 1975 to Phillipsburg and the 1975 steam special used the same cars also less the combine and baggage as I recall.  I was only 6 when it went through my hometown.

  

Would love to have a set of the correct CNJ equipment available in 2-Rail.  Undecorated plastic cars would be a good choice too if they weren't available in each of their six prototype schemes (CRRofNJ, CNJ, Blue Comet, CNJ herald only, CNJ almost-merged B&O, and NJ DOT).  One observation even got the NJ Transit silver scheme, but I don't know if this qualifies as another legitimate scheme, being only the single car.  Many of these cars also got second lives on tourist railroads in varying paint schemes.  Well worth an accurate model to make up for previous bogus offerings and remind folks that history and model railroading can go well together.

Bill Chaplik

I was going to comment more on prototypical possibilities, but don't want to take away from the fun people are having sharing their favorite versions and memories of the Blue Comet. So I started a separate thread to discuss a more prototypical representation here: https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...l-blue-comet-consist. Feel free to add your thoughts and possibilities to it! 

 

Finally had some time to snap a few pics and vid of my Cerulean Crusader. Excuse the background; in process of moving my layout. Swapped the PS3 sound set from the premiere because I didn’t like the whistle. The soundest is from the most recent release of the RK Blue Comet.

 

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