The Lionel Volume 2 Catalog is Out! What are you purchasing?

For me, the most interesting item in the catalog is the 83658 School kit (page 124) It looks to have been made by modifying an American Flyer Union Station.

the SP SD 45 and a SW-2

NYO&W NW2 and eventually the NS tank and coal cars

Maybe, just maybe,,,,,,,,,the Burlington (C&S) grain boxcar.

All Rutland baby.  The Mogal and the Milk car.

Nada, nothing, zilch. 

Believe it or not I like the new little shorty cars. BUT other than with the docksider's I would have no reason to use them.

I'll make a purchase when these marketers provide some new freight car tooling. I have acquired all the items through the years that always seem to be duplicated by the big 3. Looks like they copy each other or are told by the actual maker, this is what we are offering you this year. Take it or leave it?

I'd like to get some shorty cars for a Christmas layout, but doubt they will be available for this Christmas.

I will be looking for space to accommodate the new modular office building

CSX NW-2.

Hustle Muscle SD45

UP NW2

PRR Broadway Ltd 2 Car Set

UP Safety Slogan Caboose

CNW Falcon Service trailers

UP SD70ACe, LionScale boxcars, coal cars, and some of the new trackside accessories. I think this was a decent catalog!

Southern Pacific SD45.

Still dumbfounded that this engine is 50 years old and nobody in O has done this scheme

Thankfully, for my budget, nothing!!!  Did snag some Atlas track pieces that I needed for the layout I hope to build this winter from Lantz before they closed, and a Pilot S2 6-8-6 for a pretty good price, too!  Thinking of doing a Polar Blue paint job & using it to pull my scale PE heavyweights. 

At this point, I will purchase the Santa Fe NW2 and two sound cars (Santa Fe/CNW) Also plan on getting the new Legacy Powermaster and the Rico station.

Charlie

The Union Pacific 2 Car Expansion Pack with the American Flag Baggage Car.  That is it.

As a PW fan and conventional operator there’s not much there for me. If I ran Legacy I’d definitely be in for one of the NW2’s. I’ll bet Lionel sells a ton of these.

I’ve got a number of Lion Chief Plus locos and may find one to order. It looks like there’s not much new in that line save for some tweaking of road names. Really hoping Lionel will expand the LC+ line in the next catalog by adding some new F units and other diesels.

I ordered several of the PS-1 sound box cars from Vol. 1 and may add another.

Finally a Canadian Pacific boxcar in the stepped lettering scheme.

Probably the new short cars with the disconnect truck.  Maybe the LC+ steamer to match the President car series, but I'm not sure on that (I'm not doing the whole set, but have probably 5-6 of them, so debating on the engine).

Off the top of my head, that's what caught my attention.

-Dave

johnstrains posted:

As a PW fan and conventional operator there’s not much there for me. If I ran Legacy I’d definitely be in for one of the NW2’s. I’ll bet Lionel sells a ton of these.

I’ve got a number of Lion Chief Plus locos and may find one to order. It looks like there’s not much new in that line save for some tweaking of road names. Really hoping Lionel will expand the LC+ line in the next catalog by adding some, say, F units and other new locos.

I ordered several of the PS-1 sound box cars from Vol. 1 and may add another.

I second your comment. I run Legacy and TMCC part of the time, but I love conventional toy trains.  Because Lionel has essentially abandoned the conventional toy train operator, I will be purchasing nothing from this catalog. NO PULLMOR! NO PURCHASE! NO MAGNE-TRACTION, NO MONEY! Sorry Lionel, but not everyone wants can motors, grimy tires, 0-72 curves, fragile trim and complicated electronics. I want growling, sparks and ozone! Lionel seems to think their postwar fans are all retired, broke or dead. Not true. I'm 45, have money to spend, and love this stuff.

NOTHING!

GregR posted:

Because Lionel has essentially abandoned the conventional toy train operator, I will be purchasing nothing from this catalog. NO PULLMOR! NO PURCHASE! NO MAGNE-TRACTION, NO MONEY! Sorry Lionel, but not everyone wants can motors, grimy tires, 0-72 curves, fragile trim and complicated electronics. I want growling, sparks and ozone! Lionel seems to think their postwar fans are all retired, broke or dead. Not true. I'm 45, have money to spend, and love this stuff.

There's way too much in the secondary market. Shop there.

I collect PW myself, but buy scale and modern. Obviously Lionel has figured out that there is no money to be made in making Pullmor, magnetraction, ozone throwbacks. There are so many out there at way cheaper prices than Lionel could make them for new. Plus, why would you want a new Pullmor motor made in China? I like the old American made motors. That's what the ozone reminds me of.

The scale, fragile (because the details are SCALE), complicated behemoths are here to stay because that's what people want. Just because what you want isn't good for business doesn't make them wrong.

Arthur posted:

Finally a Canadian Pacific boxcar in the stepped lettering scheme.

I missed that on the first look through.  Thanks.  Will be ordering one.

CN SD70 Ace, Katy boxcar, Frisco boxcar - maybe a couple more cars.

All the Heisler Log Train add on cars

Santa Fe NW2

Norfolk Southern 3 pack and add on 30K Tank cars

UP Excursion Station Sound Diner Car

Trackside Railroad Detail pack

B&O milk car, WWII boxcars, and LC+ 2-8-2  MacArthur are within my budget. (Will probably kit bash the tender to reflect "Army Transportation Corps.")

TrainingDave posted:

GregR posted:

Because Lionel has essentially abandoned the conventional toy train operator, I will be purchasing nothing from this catalog. NO PULLMOR! NO PURCHASE! NO MAGNE-TRACTION, NO MONEY! Sorry Lionel, but not everyone wants can motors, grimy tires, 0-72 curves, fragile trim and complicated electronics. I want growling, sparks and ozone! Lionel seems to think their postwar fans are all retired, broke or dead. Not true. I'm 45, have money to spend, and love this stuff.

There's way too much in the secondary market. Shop there.

I collect PW myself, but buy scale and modern. Obviously Lionel has figured out that there is no money to be made in making Pullmor, magnetraction, ozone throwbacks. There are so many out there at way cheaper prices than Lionel could make them for new. Plus, why would you want a new Pullmor motor made in China? I like the old American made motors. That's what the ozone reminds me of.

The scale, fragile (because the details are SCALE), complicated behemoths are here to stay because that's what people want. Just because what you want isn't good for business doesn't make them wrong.

My post wasn't a judgment of right vs. wrong. I am not admonishing Lionel, just a making a statement of preference. They can devote all the resources they please to the scale stuff, Nascar, or those silly roller coasters. Fishing reels is probably next. Their business, their call. They are not focused on classic toy trains because Lionel is not currently led by a man who respects this aspect of the hobby. His background is NASCAR toys.

The secondary market is great, and so were new remakes of old trains. In fact, nice remakes like the Conventional Classics series were a terrific experience for those of us too young to have had the experience of buying a "new" postwar type train. Just try and find a nice, reasonably priced, postwar UP anniversary set that hasn't been all beat up by some "baby-boomer" kid years ago. Forget it. 

 

GregR posted:

Sorry Lionel, but not everyone wants can motors, grimy tires, 0-72 curves, fragile trim and complicated electronics. 

 

My post wasn't a judgment

hmmmm

eddie g posted:

NOTHING!

Nothing?  C'mon, Eddie.  You seemed so anxious to see the catalog.  What can Lionel do to change your mind?

I can't pass on the UP bathtub gondola (coal hopper) 4-pack myself.  Those will get my Lionel UP coal train up to 14 cars, with only one duplicate road number. 

What, me worry?

There is quite a bit of new Penn Central stuff that I am interested in, especially the SD45 and the trailers.  The 50 ft DD boxcar looks good, but Atlas released the same car a couple of years ago.  Same number!  If they change the number I'll probably get one of those, too!

Tom

Nothing. This isn't just moonshine - I bought the last new (from the waist up) steamer that they offered - the USRA Heavy Mike.

I am essentially a buyer only for new steam tooling (NYC H-10 Mikado; NYC K-5 Pacific), not much else (a NYC S-3 electric would get my money;  I have the S-1 and S-2; need some closure). I have enough rolling stock.

Maybe the SP&S NW2, and or the Milwaukee Road Version too.

Jim 1939 posted:

Believe it or not I like the new little shorty cars. BUT other than with the docksider's I would have no reason to use them.

I'm with you Jim. I have no idea why, but I have to get a few of these.

Paul

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the trackside cranes. The one with all the remote features would be a great hit for me and guests. The price tag is steep @ $600 list, but I'm already trying to find a way to justify it in my mind.

Paul

Nothing...ever from Lionel or MTH since I'm moving to 2-rail and will be an all-Atlas operation (motive power, rolling stock, track, etc.).

I'll certainly make way for an upscale Wheeling & Lake Erie GP40-3 (rebuilt GP40) if one is ever done, however.

2-rail conversion kits for 70 Ton trucks.

I'll take that LionChief Plus PRR Turbine set with the green 2400 series passenger cars...

oh wait...

Jon  

Halloween Mikado, sound car, Activation car and maybe a NW2, that all, on a strict budget now.