Hi guys not the usual tinplate this week but with the Passing of Tom Groff of the Choo Choo barn I wanted to dedicate this weeks post to Tom.  These are a some of my own and Tom’s Choo Choo barn creations. 
Let’s see your Tinplate! 

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Chris, very nice tribute to Mr. Groff. Those are very unique creations.

In 1999 for their 140th company anniversary Maerklin issued a replica of their 1891 vintage Stork Leg (Storchenbein) clockwork locomotive in gauge 1, Model No. 11111. The replica's clockwork motor, while nicely made, when fully wound powers the loco for only a short duration of about 3 meters. I decided to install a DC can motor in my model for more regular operation. In the video the loco is pulling two No. 1804 freight/baggage wagons (1906-1924) and a No. 1809 fruit wagon/cattle car (1903-1922.)

"People do not 'graduate' from tinplate." - Louis Hertz, 1938

At last week's swap-meet I came across a Paya 2-6-2 steam locomotive. I had seen a couple before which in general had quite some problems with disintegrated wheels and other parts. This one looked good so I bought it. It proved to be a runner, but it seems to be made for even larger than O72; it had problems going around the track oval in the house. But it had no problems running on the large radius in the garden. 

I had some Paya CIWL cars and with a Biaggi blue baggage car I could make a nice looking CIWL train.

And as you can see, it runs:

Regards

Fred

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Sad to ear about passing of Tom Groff of the Choo Choo barn, I visited the place some years ago after York show and it was a great place to visit and enjoy.

Sometime you buy a train without knowing what it is...  And I am still searching the origin of this one, a gauge one loco in British livery of the LMS. It is a Sir Gilbert Claughton class in three rail, it looks old with a nice patina and was founded with a Marklin Pacific gauge one from the twenties. Unfortunately no cars with the loco but a rake of Bing LMS cars for Basset-Lowke will look nice.

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Have a nice weekend,  Daniel

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Sad to ear about passing of Tom Groff of the Choo Choo barn, I visited the place some years ago after York show and it was a great place to visit and enjoy.

Sometime you buy a train without knowing what it is...  And I am still searching the origin of this one, a gauge one loco in British livery of the LMS. It is a Sir Gilbert Claughton class in three rail, it looks old with a nice patina and was founded with a Marklin Pacific gauge one from the twenties. Unfortunately no cars with the loco but a rake of Bing LMS cars for Basset-Lowke will look nice.

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Have a nice weekend,  Daniel

I am kinda thinking that could be a Leeds (uk) Daniel ?

http://www.leedsstedmantrust.o...hives/pages/107.html

 

Maybe/perhaps/possibly/not?

 

A super nice find regardless !!!

 

Clockwork guys have a spring in their step!

Some Brilliant stuff as always , and a lovely dedication for the thread by Chris !

While not knowing of the man in any way myself, it is always a loss to the world when someone passes who had such meaning to a community, so Vale Mr Groff ...

I have a couple of "Bitzas" coming my way this week

First up is one that has had some wheel surgery along the way and has two different wheels fore and aft , I am pretty sure the 10 spoke pressed tin rear wheels are correct , but the front 12 spoke cast ones are replacements?

It is unbranded as such but does have "Made in Germany " under the cab windows '

A little part of me is hoping that our experts on European Loco's might be able to assist in a formal identification ? I am getting an "Issmayer Vibe" but that might be just wishful thinking ? ( I really want it to be one LOL! )

Tender I am thinking is maybe not native to the loco and looks perhaps Bing?

The second one was bought locally here in Australia and the seller had absolutely no idea what it was and didnt even attempt to hint a name on the listing ... I am pretty sure its an early electric outline Bing , which would be a stupidly rare thing to find natively here in Australia .

I am not sure but perhaps it has been re-motored as looking at the photos the axles do not line up properly with the body, but I would think it pretty rare to have an early locomotive here ( that is not via a collector) let alone another mech that would fit it ?

Clockwork guys have a spring in their step!

Ives gauge one mania! The gauge one loop has once again been set up in the living room to test out some new arrivals; a very nice black 3239 and a green 3240. The body on the 3240 is one of the later ones without the cab end windows, and yet it has the truck chains associated with the early version. Perhaps its a hybrid of an early chassis with a later carbody, although it all looks like it's been mated together for a long time! The roof is definitely a replacement, but the rest of it looks quite original. Both locos ran great. The bridge is a Marklin piece.

Two videos are also included, including the obligatory triple header (two 3240 trailed by the 3239), here you can see that the 3239 is a slightly smaller outline than the 3240, although both are pretty massive as toy trains go! Enjoy

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Fatman posted:
FRENCHTRAINS posted:
 

I am kinda thinking that could be a Leeds (uk) Daniel ?

http://www.leedsstedmantrust.o...hives/pages/107.html

 

Maybe/perhaps/possibly/not?

 

A super nice find regardless !!!

 

Thanks Fatman,  you have a good eye.  I have also thought to Leeds, i have placed an O gauge one next to this one and it looks really similar in construction.

Unfortunately the loco doesn't have an original motor, it is a replacement with an old can motor from certainly the first ones produced. The patina of the paint is great and really old, i would say from the thirties but it is only my opinion....

In Great Britain there where also many good kit builders using parts from Basset-Lowke, Bonds, Leeds, Milbro and others so hard to have the definite answer...

Anyway I will try to do more research and complete the loco which is missing a whistle and the side plates with the name; next step will be a set of passenger cars i think Bing but maybe also some home made models, there is sometime nice things on eBay in Great Britain.

All my best wishes,  Daniel

Fatman posted:

The second one was bought locally here in Australia and the seller had absolutely no idea what it was and didnt even attempt to hint a name on the listing ... I am pretty sure its an early electric outline Bing , which would be a stupidly rare thing to find natively here in Australia .

I am not sure but perhaps it has been re-motored as looking at the photos the axles do not line up properly with the body, but I would think it pretty rare to have an early locomotive here ( that is not via a collector) let alone another mech that would fit it ?

Sorry unfornately 0 points :-). This is not Bing. The set was made by Kraus-Fandor in the late 20s. The loco has the No 1025, the coach is No. 1210 and the combine is No. 1211.

The loco is very similar to Bing, both was made in the same iron foundry.

Arne

Huge Props to @Arne & @Robert S. Butler  for the info and pictures !!!

Its one of those things where AFTER you kind gents correctly identify it , a little bell rings in your head !!! For me its the yellow printed Germany on the cow catcher .. I am sure I had seen that before in that style and yep it was on a Fandor !

I had not seen this Electrical outline by Fandor before and it is so similar bodywise to the Bing ( as you mention)  with the broken/missing rear casting of the pantograph and a missing control knob that appear to me to be the main differences in the body it had me fooled LOL!

I am so grateful for all the help you guys ( and others here) give and all the knowledge that is shared

I will happily accept the "0 points " Arne , because the collective 1,000,000 point knowledge here is so **** appreciated by me personally and I am sure many others .

Now find me the manufacturer of the little green one you lot !!!

Its probably not Issmayer ..........

 

( lol !)

 ( edit ... and you cant say dam(n) here without gaining the censor frown and asterisks ? You guys have no idea how hard it is for an Aussie to comunicate without cursing )

 

Clockwork guys have a spring in their step!

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Bing for BL produced Gauge 1 Claughtons marked LMS  in 1914 and 1919 through 1939 with the exception of 1924 according to Fuller's The Bassett Lowke Story.

 

Lew

Hello Lew,

Indeed Bing for BL produced this loco but on pictures it looks different from the loco from Daniel. Fatman mentioned Leeds; I first thought Leeds only made 0 gauge, but in the book by David Peacock on Leeds is mentioned "The catalogue for 1923 featured a second exact scale model of the LNWR Claughton which was also offered in gauge 1"; so it can be Leeds. Another possibility would be Jubb (of Sheffield). They made also a range of gauge 1 scale-like models, but I do not have a catalogue of Jubb.

Regards

Fred

Excellent analysis Fred, we have the same point of view.

This loco is not a Bing model, that is sure. I always sought to Leeds but they didn't produced many gauge one models and if finding documentation for Leeds O gauge is easy through the work of David Peacok it is harder for gauge one. I also sought to Jubb, unfortunately i do not have more catalog than you...

It is also possible that it could be a homemade model so I think i will never know more about it.

All my best wishes, Daniel

These very attractive trolleys were made by Lincoln Line of Chicago, based on the American PCC streetcar. They feature plastic bodies with extensive decals to create the doors and windows, and a metal floor. A trolley pole is added on the roof. They're floor toys, but having recently acquired a second one (the green one seen here) I've been thinking about retrofitting some trucks as the size is pretty good for O gauge. I've not been able to find much information about Lincoln Line out there, although they are covered in Kurt Resch's Collector's Guide to Bus Toys & Models, which advises they were made in the 1960's.

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