Using a generic toggle switch with a Lionel Fastrack remote switch

Hi all the Fastrack turnouts (remote) come with a cheesy feeling controller. Can a generic toggle switch be substituted? Would a simple SPDT switchwork with just the two leads that control the turnout direction? What about the switch illumination which I believe the other two wire leads are for?

 

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ChooChoo1972 posted:

Can a generic toggle switch be substituted? Would a simple SPDT switchwork with just the two leads that control the turnout direction?

 SPDT center off momentary...  (on)-off-(on).

2 wires if you use common ground, 3 wires(including the black) for simple straight home-run connection.

ChooChoo1972 posted:

What about the switch illumination which I believe the other two wire leads are for?

The black is common, so again if you use common ground you can build indicator lights with LEDs using just the one RSC wire. It does take the "simple" out of your initial question, though.

Rob

The black wire is common for the switch pole and the red and green are the throws. The yellow wire is +5 vdc for green and -5 vdc for red. The black is again common for the yellow wire. You will need resistors and diodes as shown below on the Lionel controller for the LEDs, red and green.

FastrackSwitchController

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

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Pine Creek Railroad posted:

CJack is correct do not try to use the SPDT without re-engineering, you will burn up your low voltage FT switch.  

No engineering necessary if you use  SPDT center off momentary...  (on)-off-(on) and ignore the yellow wire.

Rob

There are three connection terminals on a SPDT center off momentary  (on)-off-(on) switch - here are the connections on the bottom of a FasTrack Remote switch:

"GND" connects to the center common terminal
"THRU" & "OUT" connect to the other two respectively.

FasTrack Bottom

The "RSC LIGHTS" connection on the bottom of the switch is left unconnected.

For direction indication, the RSC line can be used in connection with the controller circuit diagram posted earlier if you want to make your own, but then you are back up to the bulk(and then some) of the original cheesy controller.

 

Rob

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Honestly, I don’t see anything cheesy about the original controller. It’s retro model train and a really nice lighted display of the status of the switch. But, the diagram says all of you want to replace it.

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

  You could also use two momentary buttons instead of a 2 pos. momentary toggle. 

I haven't used a FT controller, but I do like how they look; it's the trademark L. 

 Is your comment a comparison to the old ones or based on FT experience alone? I find the old brown ones have a cheaper look and feel too. But over time, I'll admit, they do seem just as reliable as the older black ones despite my original perception being they wouldn't be.

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I like the idea of a small SPDT center off toggle and a 2-pin bi-color LED. That will substitute for the control and give you the switch position indication.  Just add a resistor around 220 ohms in series with the LED.  The LED connects to the RSC Lights on the switch to ground.

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