Wish list for the next Lionel catalog

Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷‍♂️

@N&WGuy posted:

Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷‍♂️

no septa, maybe next time.

It’s interesting to see the Long Island Railroad and MTA mentioned! I’m hoping that means that Lionel got the GP38-2 Premier tooling from MTH. Some LIRR GP38’s with Legacy would be awesome!!  

Milwaukee Road and Hiawatha, Burlington, Clinchfield.  

No UP or am I blind?

@N&WGuy posted:

Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷‍♂️

Gah, no Youngstown and Southeastern haha or Mahoning Coal Railroad!

My money is still a VL Triplex

@Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:

My money is still a VL Triplex

That would be wild. I hope you're wrong because that is not in this years budget

@vash44 posted:

No UP or am I blind?

I missed it too.

Could be some new F40's in this catalog!

Okay.  I'll play.  No Norfolk Southern, Penn Central, Union Pacific, or SP?  

Doesn't matter much to me as it is highly unlikely there will be any items that interest me, but I don't mind surprises!

@GG1 4877 posted:

Okay.  I'll play.  No Norfolk Southern, Penn Central, Union Pacific, or SP?  

Doesn't matter much to me as it is highly unlikely there will be any items that interest me, but I don't mind surprises!

They don't have those licenses on the other catalogs either. But anyway, I still hope for a Milwaukee Road auxiliary tender & RPCX tool car in there too.

hiawatha - uh oh I'm in trouble

atlantic coastline , chessie

goodbye wallet

@Peter Araujo posted:

They don't have those licenses on the other catalogs either. But anyway, I still hope for a Milwaukee Road auxiliary tender & RPCX tool car in there too.

It helps that the two roads I predominantly model I model in 2 rail.

@Peter Araujo posted:

Could be some new F40's in this catalog!

You may or may not have gotten one of your earlier wishes

I gotta say, I’m impressed there haven’t been any leaks all the way up to the catalog release apart from what Lionel meant to leak out. They’ve managed to keep info locked up tight this time! I can’t even remember the last time there were no leaks preceding an upcoming catalog...

MrMuffin’s Trains has all the Vision Line Class A’s available for preorder on their website with pictures!! Also saw some F9 diesels 😲

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...=93982d11b&_ss=r

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...=491c53915&_ss=r

The MSRP for the Class A is honestly less than I expected

There are some stunning CP SD90MAC Veteran tribute locomotives. I want them all.

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/se...&q=Lionel*%20SD*

@Madockawando posted:

There are some stunning CP SD90MAC Veteran tribute locomotives. I want them all.

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/se...&q=Lionel*%20SD*

They’re wonderful paint schemes but why put they on an SD90MAC and not on an SD70 like CP did.

https://www.trains.com/trn/new...orative-locomotives/

Amtrak

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...=89f800d24&_ss=r

@vash44 posted:

Amtrak

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...=89f800d24&_ss=r

A few of them. And some F40s to pull the ski train.

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/se...ct&q=Lione*+F40*

This will pretty much give you all of it if you scroll:

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/se...=product&q=2022*

@vash44 posted:

They’re wonderful paint schemes but why put they on an SD90MAC and not on an SD70 like CP did.

https://www.trains.com/trn/new...orative-locomotives/

I don’t know but they are Canadian and they look great. So I’m happy but sad because I don’t think I can get them all. There are some CN veteran tribute locomotives as well. I guess after the fiasco with the disaster that was MTH’s veteran engine Lionel said: “Hold my beer and watch this.”

Just got this email this morning from Lionel...

Wishes for this catalog are no longer being accepted. All further wishes should be forwarded to the next "Wish List for the Next Lionel Catalog" thread.  Please keep in mind that wishes may take several catalog cycles before being granted due to the fact that the next catalog is probably already done so technically all wishes from here forward will at the earliest be granted in the 2023 Volume 1 catalog.  Also Lionel has a policy of not accepting suggestions but wishes are always welcome.  Please remember not all wishes come true either.  If you wish to speak to someone about a wish that was not granted please email the genie in the wish department.  We are located across the hall from Lenny the Lion.

Wishfully yours the Lionel Genie.

@SuperChief posted:

A few of them. And some F40s to pull the ski train.

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/se...ct&q=Lione*+F40*

Based on some of Ryan's past comments about 2022 Volume 1 and paraphrasing Yoda, "...Amtrak is strong with this one."

Santa Fe 2-10-4s?   ****.  I must have at least 1.  Even though I just bought a 3rd Rail version on the Bay.  Hope it at least has whistle steam and some other cool features for that price.

Other than that, looks like my wallet is in the clear.  I usually get every VL but the Class A isn’t speaking to me.   But I’ll probably change my mind if the “mystery feature” is really good.  

Having reviewed the above "Muffin" listings for a previous hour, I am much impressed with the variety of Military and Veteran inspired diesel themes at a variety of multiple price points.

May I offer a twenty gun salute to Lionel for their Veteran support.

Almost time!

Do the manufacturers come out with similar things at around the same time to block each other, or because they think the complimentary items actually increase their sales, or a little bit of both?  MTH/Atlas does a 44 tonner and now Lionel has one.  Scott Mann is coming out with Amtrak locomotives and beautiful scale passenger cars from GGD and Lionel goes hard on Amtrak from roughly the same period in this catalog.  Lionel and MTH each came out with a Santa Fe “gold bonnet” Alco PA and cars set at around the same time.  

Mind you, the choice is great for us…and It often works beautifully…I can’t wait to see my VL Daylight GS3 pull Scott’s Daylight passenger cars.  But I don’t get the thinking behind having the exact same thing like the 44 tonner or gold bonnet PA set within months of another manufacturer.

@das boot posted:

Having reviewed the above "Muffin" listings for a previous hour, I am much impressed with the variety of Military and Veteran inspired diesel themes at a variety of multiple price points.

May I offer a twenty gun salute to Lionel for their Veteran support.

Here Here!! I concur whole heartedly. Lionel is all in with the veteran tribute trains. The best way we veterans can say thank you: buy them all!!😁

No whitewalls on the A’s. Dealbreaker for me.

@Alec_6460 posted:

Santa Fe 2-10-4s?   ****.  I must have at least 1.  Even though I just bought a 3rd Rail version on the Bay.  Hope it at least has whistle steam and some other cool features for that price.

Other than that, looks like my wallet is in the clear.  I usually get every VL but the Class A isn’t speaking to me.   But I’ll probably change my mind if the “mystery feature” is really good.  

I'm in the same boat. I just had had the same 3rd Rail version upgraded with cruise. It will be hard to pass up from Lionel.

Ouch, this is going to hurt the wallet, but they are so good looking:

Lionel L-2233580 - F9 AB Sets Aberdeen Carolina & Western – MrMuffin'sTrains (mrmuffinstrains.com)

By the way, I had to coordinate with the folks at ACWR for a work project, and they were really great when they had absolutely no reason to help.  Class act all the way around.

Looks like someone possibly jumped the gun on posting the catalog items.

those SD90MACS are beautiful

i need one

I see the MTH tooled 0-6-0 engines and Bobber cabooses. I was hoping the 0-4-0 engines were also from the MTH tooling, but they look like Lionel's versions. Same with the 4-4-2 Atlantics.

@MartyE posted:

Looks like someone possibly jumped the gun on posting the catalog items.

Eh. I mean it doesn't have the details added. Perhaps there's something wrong with me but I like reading the details even though it's a lot of the same details. I'm still looking forward to the online catalog being posted and that's what I'll be looking at closely.

If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.

@MartyE posted:

Just got this email this morning from Lionel...

Wishes for this catalog are no longer being accepted. All further wishes should be forwarded to the next "Wish List for the Next Lionel Catalog" thread.  Please keep in mind that wishes may take several catalog cycles before being granted due to the fact that the next catalog is probably already done so technically all wishes from here forward will at the earliest be granted in the 2023 Volume 1 catalog.  Also Lionel has a policy of not accepting suggestions but wishes are always welcome.  Please remember not all wishes come true either.  If you wish to speak to someone about a wish that was not granted please email the genie in the wish department.  We are located across the hall from Lenny the Lion.

Wishfully yours the Lionel Genie.

At least they have a great sense of humor! Hard not to like those guys but doesn't keep some from trying.

@Randy_B posted:

At least they have a great sense of humor! Hard not to like those guys but doesn't keep some from trying.

Randy

Just for full disclosure, I wrote that just joking around.  I do know though they do have a sense of humor.  You almost have to when dealing with us.

@NCogaugefan posted:

If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.

Why don't you wait until the catalog actually drops.  I suspect there is more there.

@NCogaugefan posted:

If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.

Traditional items (including conventional and the Lionel Chief Plus line) as well as Christmas items and some of the branded offerings are supposed to be listed separately. The word was that the print catalog would have the VL, Legacy, and higher end stuff with all others online only.

So, plenty more to come.

I think I have this right?

@NCogaugefan posted:

If the listings on Mrmuffins are pretty much everything, I’m…..underwhelmed. There is nothing for traditional or semi scale folks……no new lionchief plus 2.0 steam, no new lionmaster steam. I guess if you don’t have a scale layout, Lionel doesn’t much care for your business. I honestly thought they would try to fill the Railking void……but it looks like they don’t plan to.

there's gonna be stuff for us i'm sure

there always is

@paigetrain posted:

those SD90MACS are beautiful

i need one

Or two… or three😉

@MartyE posted:

Randy

Just for full disclosure, I wrote that just joking around.  I do know though they do have a sense of humor.  You almost have to when dealing with us.

I thought that might be a possibility after I posted. I can totally see Dave sending something out like that though!

dude lionchief dash 8s

ns anniversary set

44 tonners

MY WALLET IS DEAD

and i might cry

@paigetrain posted:

dude lionchief dash 8s

ns anniversary set

44 tonners

MY WALLET IS DEAD

and i might cry

I take it you are able to buy trains now?

@Alec_6460 posted:

Santa Fe 2-10-4s?   ****.  I must have at least 1.  Even though I just bought a 3rd Rail version on the Bay.  Hope it at least has whistle steam and some other cool features for that price.

Found some MTH tooling. I already have two, and they have Pittman motors to boot, so pass.

@MartyE posted:

I take it you are able to buy trains now?

yes but very sparingly

i have to make big purchases count

i predicted the dash 8s awhile ago so...

i may have to get one but the 44 tonners were a surprise

i have a postwar 628 and would like another postwar style 44 tonner

i've got some thinking to do

@paigetrain posted:

dude lionchief dash 8s

ns anniversary set

44 tonners

MY WALLET IS DEAD

and i might cry

Me too. I want all the CN and CP veteran tribute locomotives. I can’t do that!!!
Or can I?🤔

Was the 9 am  release time incorrect? Its 9:10 and still no catalog on the website

I was wishing and directly asked for a GRAND TRUNK WESTERN double-door 50' box car with end doors, but the GTW  1960's scheme was not included this time.

Andrew

@Prr7688 posted:

Was the 9 am  release time incorrect? Its 9:10 and still no catalog on the website

Folks on the Matt and Matt Podcast Discord are saying 10AM eastern

Anyone know what time Ryan & Dave will be going over the catalog? I think it is usually 10AM EST, but I may be wrong since I haven't seen one live to date since I'm always at work when they do.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Anyone know what time Ryan & Dave will be going over the catalog? I think it is usually 10AM EST, but I may be wrong since I haven't seen one live to date since I'm always at work when they do.

3 PM Eastern time.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Anyone know what time Ryan & Dave will be going over the catalog? I think it is usually 10AM EST, but I may be wrong since I haven't seen one live to date since I'm always at work when they do.

According to Ryan. It'll be the afternoon

@Lou1985 posted:

Found some MTH tooling. I already have two, and they have Pittman motors to boot, so pass.

I admire your restraint…but if its WW2 era ATSF steam I have to have at least 1.  Addictions/collections are a terrible problem…

To slap the CP tribute paint schemes on an SD90 is just plain lazy. No sale for me there, but I'm sure it will sell.

IN THE FUTURE! I wish they would do a 44-tonner type with side rods. So much more interesting to watch than the usual look!!.

@Jeff B. Haertlein posted:

IN THE FUTURE! I wish they would do a 44-tonner type with side rods. So much more interesting to watch than the usual look!!.

The would be a 45 tonner.  Which oddly enough, was smaller than the 44 tonner. (HO models shown)

Rusty

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Anyone know what time Ryan & Dave will be going over the catalog? I think it is usually 10AM EST, but I may be wrong since I haven't seen one live to date since I'm always at work when they do.

Later on today

@N'awlins posted:

To slap the CP tribute paint schemes on an SD90 is just plain lazy. No sale for me there, but I'm sure it will sell.

Agreed. Would of bought them all. Passing on all of them because they’re on the wrong locomotive.

@N&WGuy posted:

Here’s the back of the catalog, haha. Check out all the trademarks on the bottom, I’m assuming that’ll give an idea as to what road names are gonna be in it! 🤷‍♂️

I see some Pennsylvania and a lot of Seaboard. This is gonna be rough on the wallet!😂

Pilot Class A, most of the ES44s, especially excited about the IC ES44, Polar Express VL passenger car, Amtrak Cabbage units, Aberdeen Carolina and Western locos and cars and the UP ROCKET SET are all eye-catching so far!

@Rusty Traque posted:

The would be a 45 tonner.  Which oddly enough, was smaller than the 44 tonner. (HO models shown)

Rusty

OK, yes I know some were 45 tonners, if not all. But Lionel etc. always makes fantacy engines that RRs never had, just like generic 10-wheelers. So even if the side rods work, but do not actually power the engine, the look would be there. Here's a shot of our 45 tonner.

It’s really a shame that Lionel isn’t doing Warbonnet F units. I got really excited when I saw Santa Fe F units on the dealer list, only to see Yellowbonnet F units. What a missed opportunity.

I noticed the new catalog had the old Lionel Atlantic and A-5 locomotives. I hope this doesn't mean they passed on the tooling for these. Maybe the ones in the catalog were already planned a while ago. Or maybe they thought MTH's version was too similar.

@vash44 posted:

Agreed. Would of bought them all. Passing on all of them because they’re on the wrong locomotive.

All I know is, they look great, veteran themed trains are popular, with he CP is a popular road name and I am going to get a couple of locomotives. My guess is this will be a big hit for Lionel.

@GenesisFan99 posted:

It’s really a shame that Lionel isn’t doing Warbonnet F units. I got really excited when I saw Santa Fe F units on the dealer list, only to see Yellowbonnet F units. What a missed opportunity.

Agreed! I was hoping to see one in the catalog as well.  Perfect opportunity for Mr. Muffin or someone else to do a custom run perhaps?

@GenesisFan99 posted:

It’s really a shame that Lionel isn’t doing Warbonnet F units. I got really excited when I saw Santa Fe F units on the dealer list, only to see Yellowbonnet F units. What a missed opportunity.

Red Warbonnet F units had never been made in Legacy until 2017v2.  They were very popular.  I suspect they’ll be back around.

i saw that pennsy s2 set and freaked out.

i really want that thing but 750 bucks is pretty steep

i doubt i can pull it off especially with a severely limited budget

that lionchief graffeti set looks rad but again that price is really steep for me

i might get a standalone dash 8 or something

Just sent the suggestion to MrMuffin to do some boxcar logo and/or non-boxcar logo CSX ES44AH units.  Lionel only finally did one with correct headlight position and truck frames in 2020 but in just one special #3010 road number along with the heritage units.  Lets get some generic units to fill up those rosters!

Along with the lack of a Warbonnet ATSF F7, sometimes I'm left scratching my head at Lionel's choices.  That said, they have some really nice offerings this time around.

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

Just sent the suggestion to MrMuffin to do some boxcar logo and/or non-boxcar logo CSX ES44AH units.  Lionel only finally did one with correct headlight position and truck frames in 2020 but in just one special #3010 road number along with the heritage units.  Lets get some generic units to fill up those rosters!

Along with the lack of a Warbonnet ATSF F7, sometimes I'm left scratching my head at Lionel's choices.  That said, they have some really nice offerings this time around.

I know there are several people here on OGR that would love to see this Central Maine and Quebec locomotive. Technically it is GE AC4400CW, not an ES44AH. But I don't really care. Steve! Please consider this locomotive as a special run!!

https://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=647711

https://www.google.com/search?...imgrc=Ueef62cClio-JM

@Alec_6460 posted:

I admire your restraint…but if its WW2 era ATSF steam I have to have at least 1.  Addictions/collections are a terrible problem…

I wouldn't say that I have "restraint" with ATSF steam, as I have:

Premier 5001 class 2-10-4 (made from a Premier 5011 class with a 20K gallon tender and outside bearing pilot truck) (5009)

Premier 5011 class 2-10-4 (5025)

Two Premier 2900 class 4-8-4s (2903, 2921)

Legacy 3751 class 4-8-4 (3759)

Four Premier 3460 class Hudsons (3460 Blue Goose, 3463, 3464, 3465)

Premier 3129 class 2-8-2 (made from a Premier USRA Mikado)

Enough parts to cobble together another Premier 5011 class 2-10-4.

So no restraint 😄.

But back to the catalog. The 5011 class 2-10-4 Lionel is making, adjusted for inflation, is only $100ish more than what MTH charged for it when they last produced it in 2005. So I'm kinda surprised it didn't really go up in price all that much in 17 years. You'll get whistle steam with the Lionel model, but the older MTH model will have a nice, big, 9434 Pittman motor. I'd rather have the Pittman than whistle steam, but to each is own.

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

Just sent the suggestion to MrMuffin to do some boxcar logo and/or non-boxcar logo CSX ES44AH units.  Lionel only finally did one with correct headlight position and truck frames in 2020 but in just one special #3010 road number along with the heritage units.  Lets get some generic units to fill up those rosters!

Along with the lack of a Warbonnet ATSF F7, sometimes I'm left scratching my head at Lionel's choices.  That said, they have some really nice offerings this time around.

I just sent the following to Steve to piggy back on your request:

"I would like to make a request for a special run of Central Maine and Québec #1006

I saw on OGR someone has already contacted you about doing a special run of ES44AH units. Although the Central Maine and Québec #1006 is an AC44W I believe the locomotives are close enough to make it work. Others on OGR expressed interest in purchasing this locomotive."

Wow, I just noticed that Lionel has made my wish come true, the 0-4-0 Steam Switcher with slope back tender, B&O. Thank you Lionel. Now I’m hoping to get a deal on an early order price,BTO. Happy Railroading Everyone (there’s lots to review in this new 2022 catalog.

I came away unscathed.  Good thing too.  Have a 3rd rail E1 coming anytime and I pre-ordered his Amtrak and the cars.

The new base is interesting.  I’ll pass.  4 number address seems like the most obvious.  Would be better without creating 2 digit and trying to remember it.  The ZW-L is just one penny short of a grand!  Ouch.  Rocket Train is cool.  Good variety.

@Catonsville Central Railway posted:

Just sent the suggestion to MrMuffin to do some boxcar logo and/or non-boxcar logo CSX ES44AH units.  Lionel only finally did one with correct headlight position and truck frames in 2020 but in just one special #3010 road number along with the heritage units.  Lets get some generic units to fill up those rosters!

Along with the lack of a Warbonnet ATSF F7, sometimes I'm left scratching my head at Lionel's choices.  That said, they have some really nice offerings this time around.

I’d definitely buy. Need some generic CSX locomotives to pair with my heritage unit. Was hoping they would come out with a tier IV gevo this catalog but guess not.

Well, at least one of our wallets is in for a world of hurt: MINE.

Between the Amtrak Cabbages, the CSX business train (I wish one of the F40s was a dummy at least), the 1218, the rocket train idler car pack, and an assortment of unique cars like the chapel car, and various cars that would fill in some gaps (Amtrak heritage diner, Ford Mustang boxcar, RailBox, ADM), I'm in trouble. I suppose I should count my blessings that a legacy (or God forbid a Vision) 1309 or Amtrak Charger or Sprinter wasn't in the catalog. The Base3 is tempting, although there's no "killer" feature that's pushing it to the top of my list.

As for the catalog itself, I think it was a good showing. There was a good mix of scale and semi-scale, and there were some good, positive, creative new liveries. I'm delighted to see that Lionel bought the MTH rocket train tooling. I hope some of the other unique MTH toolings found homes, too (European steam, Aerotrain, etc). I think the Atlantics look good, I was glad to see some Doodlebugs (although I wish they had at least TMCC capability, which they don't), and those 0-4-0 slopebacks are tempting.

As for areas that I think could be improved, I really wish the Lionel would specifically call out which "new" products are acquired MTH toolings just so those of us who are familiar with that tooling can gauge how those items would mesh into our existing collections. I'm also confused by the All New Product banner--it's on items like the 1218, which is brand new, but it's also on things like the Berkshire, which Lionel has produced before. Maybe it's just new liveries or new road numbers? I wish they'd be more clear about that. I also noticed that there's a "New Tooling" label on the 2-10-4, but it's completely missing from the 1218 spread. I wonder if this was a mistake, or if the 2-10-4 is, in fact, new tooling.

And lastly, the Cab3 app situation doesn't seem to be fully baked yet, and I'm worried about the direction in which it may head. Firstly, there's no mention as to whether or not it's a universal app for iOS devices (meaning it works on iPhones, iPod touches, and iPads) or if it's just an iPhone/iPod touch app. The screenshots and abstract don't mention iPads at all, and that's concerning if this is supposed to replace the LCS app, especially given the minimal amount of effort it takes to add iPad optimization. Even more concerning, however, is that it appears that the new Cab3 app won't control legacy/TMCC engines without the Base3. I hope I'm terribly mistaken about that, but if it's true, and if Lionel doesn't update the iCab or LCS apps (iPhone and iPad, respectively), those apps are woefully out of date and I'm worried that they may stop working on future versions of iOS. Again, I hope I'm wrong and that the new Cab3 app will work with the older legacy hardware.

Bottom line, though, I'm in for some new rolling stock, and I'm excited.

Rafi

Since the SOO LINE GP30 diesels were produced and the SOO LINE RS-27 diesels and F7 AA, B, B diesel locomotives have been announced they will need to produce a few more matching freight cars.

The people at LIONEL going to have to make all 18 road numbers of the SOO LINE 57' Mechanical refrigerator cars built in 1965 and 1969 by Pacific Car & Foundry, over 4 years using the LionScale 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars and the imported 57' mechanical reefers with sound & lights.

They have not had an O scale SOO LINE gondola produced in one or more of the various 1960's era schemes of the SOO LINE.

Andrew

I just became aware that the new "Reading" cars are the actual arched roof type and are quite accurately scaled.  I've been hoping for these cars to be produced for years and missed the whole thing thanks to Lionel's photos, as reproduced in their online catalogs.  I skimmed over them because all black roofs look the same to these old eyes unless I blow them waaay up.  They appear to be wonderful cars but The RDG cars seem to be sold out.

Fearing redundancy, I've scanned this "Topic" looking for the suggestion that these cars be produced in CNJ colors but didn't see any.  Other than Reading and the roads to which they were distributed, the CNJ was the only Class One that owned and operated them.  It seems funny that tourist lines, albeit RDG spinoffs, should trump THE BIG LITTLE RAILROAD.

i really want the s2 turbine set but i probably have to pass on it as 750 bucks might be a little out of my price range

i guess i'll just have to get an older used turbine or some other pennsy power

we will see

I'm holding out for some of the other Railking tooling, hoping for PRR L1, SR E8, RDG budd cars, and PRR MP54 MU's. even though I believe the LC Pacifics are overpriced, if they letter one for the Atlanta & West Point 290 its mine.

I would buy one of the following:

• Vision Line Brass Hybrid Western Maryland 4-8-4 Potomac with
  • Cylinder Steam
  • Whistle Steam
  • Safety Valve Steam
  • Blowdown Steam
  • Kinematic Drawbar
  • 5 year warranty
• Legacy Wi-Fi remote

I would buy two of any of the following, or as many as four (two each) if more than one were offered:

• Legacy Scale Cambria and Indiana SW8 or SW1200 in the Bethlehem Mines yellow and back livery
• Legacy Scale Conrail  GE C39-8 "humpback"
• Legacy Scale Conrail SD80MAC with correctly sized fuel tank
• Legacy Scale PRR GE U25C or U28C
• Legacy Scale PRR Baldwin S-12 or DS-4-4-660
• Legacy Scale PRR Baldwin DRS4-4-1000
• Legacy Scale PRR ALCo C628 C630

GP9 or F3 in NYC or New England roads with a option to switch out the swinging pilot for a fixed one with Kadees.  Please!!!!

@rplst8 posted:

I would buy one of the following:

• Vision Line Brass Hybrid Western Maryland 4-8-4 Potomac with
  • Cylinder Steam
  • Whistle Steam
  • Safety Valve Steam
  • Blowdown Steam
  • Kinematic Drawbar
  • 5 year warranty
• Legacy Wi-Fi remote
• Legacy Altoona PRR Locomotive Test Plant
  • Dynamometer rollers with load simulation
  • Cutaway view so locomotive can be seen inside the plant
  • Remote drawbar pull indicator (switchable scaled horsepower and pound force)
  • Factory/Shop Environmental RailSounds (metal hammers, chatter, etc.)
  • Surprise me

I would buy two of any of the following, or as many as four (two each) if more than one were offered:

• Legacy Scale Cambria and Indiana SW8 or SW1200 in the Bethlehem Mines yellow and back livery
• Legacy Scale Conrail  GE C39-8 "humpback"
• Legacy Scale Conrail SD80MAC with correctly sized fuel tank
• Legacy Scale PRR GE U25C or U28C
• Legacy Scale PRR Baldwin S-12 or DS-4-4-660
• Legacy Scale PRR Baldwin DRS4-4-1000
• Legacy Scale PRR ALCo C628 C630

A Western Maryland 4-8-4 would be awesome!!

I’d really like to see a return of the Legacy N&W Y6b’s with some Vision Line auxiliary water tenders! I know it’s a long shot hoping they’ll be in the next catalog since the A Class locos we’re just featured in this one, but a guy can dream! Some more N&W rolling stock would be nice as well.

Some nice stuff, certainly sticker shock, but then again, with me that is anything these days above about 30 bucks *lol*. The one thing I hope to see someday in Lionchief mode is the LC 2.0 docksider they had a couple of years ago, I missed out on that (specifically the Brooklyn Eastern District one. I love small engines in general, they have some nice switchers in this catalog if I can scrape up the money for them

• Legacy Altoona PRR Locomotive Test Plant
  • Dynamometer rollers with load simulation
  • Cutaway view so locomotive can be seen inside the plant
  • Remote drawbar pull indicator (switchable scaled horsepower and pound force)
  • Factory/Shop Environmental RailSounds (metal hammers, chatter, etc.)
  • Surprise me
• Scale PRR G38 ore jenny
• Scale PRR NE cabin car

Ummm... a Cab3 handheld?......

@bigkid posted:

Some nice stuff, certainly sticker shock, but then again, with me that is anything these days above about 30 bucks *lol*. The one thing I hope to see someday in Lionchief mode is the LC 2.0 docksider they had a couple of years ago, I missed out on that (specifically the Brooklyn Eastern District one. I love small engines in general, they have some nice switchers in this catalog if I can scrape up the money for them

Yes, those were hugely popular. I think the particular loco itself drew lots of attention AND they were also one of the first of the new Lion Chief Plus 2.0 line. Lots of electronics in a small space.

As I recall, a good number of forum posters even purchased more than one.

The Brooklyn livery was my favorite.

@rplst8 posted:

Other Ideas:

• Legacy Altoona PRR Locomotive Test Plant
  • Dynamometer rollers with load simulation
  • Cutaway view so locomotive can be seen inside the plant
  • Remote drawbar pull indicator (switchable scaled horsepower and pound force)
  • Factory/Shop Environmental RailSounds (metal hammers, chatter, etc.)
  • Surprise me

This would be sweet!

Using what you have Lionel

1. Coil Cars from the KLine tooling - Penn Central w three road numbers

2. More eight door 86' Autoparts Box Cars - D&TSL, IC or ICG and EL

Even though the new catalog is still fresh I’ll jump in with what I’d like to see next. Some repeat I’ve with prior requests.

Legacy PRR decapods (multiple road #s and both tender variations) with whistle steam and swinging bell

vision line triplex

Legacy blue comet set with whistle steam and swinging bell

Legacy PRR T1 with whistle steam

I feel as though a good number of the things mentioned have been done within the past 10-15 years (not all of them of course - there  are certainly some random road names and such).  However, I’ve been waiting for a NYC 20th Century Limited for FOREVER!!  A Dreyfus Hudson with 1938 scheme (blue stripe) hasn’t been done in this century!  Was last slated for 2008 production and mysteriously cancelled…. It’s obviously a highly sought after set yet catalog after catalog come out with reruns of the same old items stuffed with slightly modified tech.  Hey Lionel…!!!  MAKE A DREYFUS AND MATCHING 1938 CARS!!!!!

I would like to see a weathered and worse for wear workhorse USRA steam engine. I have all the class A stuff I need.

Yes to a Legacy Virginian triplex and 3-4 N and W auxiliary water tenders

Since we are dreaming, a Lionel postwar inspired N&W 746 with LionChief Plus 2.0  for me.

**** Yes A vision line Dreyfus Hudson with 1938 passenger cars WITH correct interiors

Don't get me wrong this catalog's Post War style military cars are cool, but how about some regular "US Army/Airforce/Navy/Marines" freight cars? We've had the sharknoses and turbine from the previous two catalogs, and now in this one we've got an 0-4-0 and an ES44, but barely anything to throw behind them save these traditional cars. A few flatbeds with some tanks or some regular boxcars and tankers would be perfect.

@Patrick B posted:

Don't get me wrong this catalog's Post War style military cars are cool, but how about some regular "US Army/Airforce/Navy/Marines" freight cars? We've had the sharknoses and turbine from the previous two catalogs, and now in this one we've got an 0-4-0 and an ES44, but barely anything to throw behind them save these traditional cars. A few flatbeds with some tanks or some regular boxcars and tankers would be perfect.

Sure… and add in some Canadian military freight cars as well.

@FJI posted:

**** Yes A vision line Dreyfus Hudson with 1938 passenger cars WITH correct interiors

Yes PLEASE!  I would buy that in a heartbeat.  And if they wont do proper cars, I would start begging Scott Mann to do another run of the 1938 20th Century…probably wont happen…but a guy can dream.

@DETROIT posted:

Using what you have Lionel

1. Coil Cars from the KLine tooling - Penn Central w three road numbers

2. More eight door 86' Autoparts Box Cars - D&TSL, IC or ICG and EL

The K LINE injection molds are apparently being held by Bachmann Trains in CHINA.

The people at LIONEL would need to get the plans for an EVANS PRODUCT covered steel coil car and make an all new car.

Since they just acquired the MTH O scale covered steel coil car, that might be a bit difficult to make happen.

The LIONEL guys would most likely have to put the PENN CENTRAL scheme on both the Standard O 42' gondola with angled coil covers and the new O scale round cover steel coil car.

I am highly irritated that Bachmann is not yet including the Evans covered steel coil car made for K-Line in the Williams O scale line. 

The box cars are described as 8-Door 86' High-Cube Boxcars.

The Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine reporting marks are D&TS.

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-...?i=dts5700&o=dts

Andrew

Falcon Service

The O scale rounded cover steel coil cars should be produced in the paint schemes for

The ELGIN, JOLIET & EASTERN

The Wisconsin Central

Andrew

SCL SEABOARD COAST LINE   

WC   WISCONSIN CENTRAL

ACF CENTER FLOW  5250 cubic foot capacity 4-bay covered hoppers

The version of the Center Flow hoppers built between 1972 and 1990.

The O scale model that was made out of Aluminum.

Andrew

@DETROIT posted:

Using what you have Lionel

1. Coil Cars from the KLine tooling - Penn Central w three road numbers

2. More eight door 86' Autoparts Box Cars - D&TSL, IC or ICG and EL

LIONEL would have to make the Standard O gondolas with the angled coil covers in the PENN CENTRAL scheme.

PC 606502, gondola, Cleveland, Ohio. Photo by Dick Ross. is an example of the PENN CENTRAL gondola

http://pc.smellycat.com/pics/equip/gons.html

Andrew

@falconservice posted:

LIONEL would have to make the Standard O gondolas with the angled coil covers in the PENN CENTRAL scheme.

PC 606502, gondola, Cleveland, Ohio. Photo by Dick Ross. is an example of the PENN CENTRAL gondola

http://pc.smellycat.com/pics/equip/gons.html

Andrew

Andrew - As aways it's great to learn and look at things from different angles.

Please help me understand the differences between the KLine gondolas, produced by Lionel in DT&I and Ford a few years ago and the following:

http://pc.smellycat.com/pics/equip/pc752302dr.jpg

Jim

@falconservice posted:

The K LINE injection molds are apparently being held by Bachmann Trains in CHINA.

The people at LIONEL would need to get the plans for an EVANS PRODUCT covered steel coil car and make an all new car.

Since they just acquired the MTH O scale covered steel coil car, that might be a bit difficult to make happen.

The LIONEL guys would most likely have to put the PENN CENTRAL scheme on both the Standard O 42' gondola with angled coil covers and the new O scale round cover steel coil car.

I am highly irritated that Bachmann is not yet including the Evans covered steel coil car made for K-Line in the Williams O scale line.

The box cars are described as 8-Door 86' High-Cube Boxcars.

The Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine reporting marks are D&TS.

http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-...?i=dts5700&o=dts

Andrew

Falcon Service

Additional question - saw earlier response first - how did Lionel get at least one run of the old KLine coil cars, DT&I, Ford and possibly others??? then lose rights to tooling?  Just curious.  Thanks, Jim

@DETROIT posted:

Additional question - saw earlier response first - how did Lionel get at least one run of the old KLine coil cars, DT&I, Ford and possibly others??? then lose rights to tooling?  Just curious.  Thanks, Jim

The K-Line by LIONEL agreement ended when Bachmann had all of the other model railroad companies move their production of the Sanda-Kan factory about 10 years ago.

Andrew

@Madockawando posted:

Sure… and add in some Canadian military freight cars as well.

Now that you've mentioned foreign military cars, Lionel made a NATO flatcar with a British submarine in the past.... Why not go the extra mile and add some military equipment from other nations that we've fought alongside with or even against for the heck of it? Have a 6 pack of cars with one tank from each of the major nations that fought in WW2 (America, England, Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy) with some addon packs featuring other vehicles from these nations like tank destroyers or halftracks.

During the Canadian Pacific's  CP Rail Multimark era they had a division called CP Transport and CP Express & Transport.

The CP Transport scheme can be applied to the O scale 40' trailers with reefers or refrigerator units.

A few photos as examples on this web page. 

https://www.pwrs.ca/view_product.php?ProductID=225975

http://whiteriverdivision.blogspot.com/2020/07/

The regular CP Rail scheme can also be applied to the O scale 40' trailers

The CN Piggback scheme from the 1970's needs to be put on the O scale 40' trailers

Andrew

                               Need these two schemes of Lionscale Weaver Wood Chip cars -

If LIONEL got the MTH Premier GP60 and GP60M diesel locos to make LEGACY equipped models, that would make it possible to operate LIONEL LEGACY GP30, GP35 with the GP60, GP60M.

Andrew

https://www.intermountain-rail...om/ho/html/45273.htm

O scale SOO LINE 1988 scheme auto rack on a bright yellow TTGX TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car

Intermountain has them in HO scale.

Red Caboose has them in N scale.

Lionel has to have them made in O scale.

Andrew

O scale plug-door 50' box cars in late 1960's paint schemes for the Great Northern and the Soo Line.

Andrew

I'd really like to see them do some innovative accessories and operating cars.  As much as I'd like them to have Legacy in them, it seems the cost ins't worth it so I'll take  conventional operating accessories that are new and creative.  New tooling or creative use of existing in booth cars and other trackside accessories.

Feel like beating a dead horse, but I'm still holding out for B36-7's with kinematic pilots and scale coupler mounting pads, and a set of NJ Transit Arrow-series MU railcars (multiple phases, too). Maybe Lionel got the MTH tooling for the L-series NYC Mohawks? Those might be nice to see with LEGACY.

For a more realistic expectation though, maybe a rerun of the Pennsylvania M1A/M1B - the latter hasn't been seen since 2008 - and the Dreyfuss Hudson with multiple tender and deco variants. Still holding out for a rerun of the F-19e Chesapeake & Ohio George Washington 4-6-2 Pacific's, too...

@MartyE posted:

I'd really like to see them do some innovative accessories and operating cars.  As much as I'd like them to have Legacy in them, it seems the cost ins't worth it so I'll take  conventional operating accessories that are new and creative.  New tooling or creative use of existing in booth cars and other trackside accessories.

YES!

I mentioned this earlier elsewhere because accessories really do make it a "LIONEL" (in the old-time sense) three-rail, fun layout.

Legacy would certainly be a bonus, if do-able.

Hey, Ryan!  Hey, Dave!

@Mikado 4501 posted:

For a more realistic expectation though, maybe a rerun of the Pennsylvania M1A/M1B - the latter hasn't been seen since 2008 - and the Dreyfuss Hudson with multiple tender and deco variants. Still holding out for a rerun of the F-19e Chesapeake & Ohio George Washington 4-6-2 Pacific's, too...

Agreed on the Dreyfuss that seems like a nobrainer with the MTH tooling. Would love to see a C&O F-19 rerun with a better whistle! I haven’t pulled the trigger on the prior version for that reason

It would be cool if they did a run of B&O P7 Pacifics and at least offered the option of any of the 20 Presidents.  I don't know if all of them would get enough orders, but it would be cool to have the option.  If they really wanted to swing for the fences, they could also offer the streamlined versions.

I'm an NYC guy, but I'd open up my wallet for a President Grant and one of the streamlined versions (any road #)

O scale Chicago & NorthWestern Pullman-Standard 60' boxcars in the 1980's "Safety Yellow" scheme.

Here is a photo of the HO scale CNW P-S 60' boxcar from Walthers.

CNW box cars  were common on GTW freight trains in Michigan in the 1990's.

Andrew

Falcon Service

One MPC reefer in my rolling stock inventory is the Red Lobster reefer from the Burger King "set". It is one of my favorites. I wouldn't mind seeing a 57 foot mechanical reefer that is decorated for Red Lobster.

I would also like to see 57 foot mechanical reefers decorated for Coca Cola. A Google search for Coca Cola reefers turns up all sorts of fantastic schemes; especially LGB's but others too.

I would also like to see 57' mechanical reefers for PepsiCo, Sprite, Dr Pepper, Tab, Jolt, and many others. A lot of potential fun in that.

In addition to popular soft drinks one could do the fast food chains and other restaurants.

Vision line k4, well more for when they finish the one they are restoring.

If I could have my wish granted, I would love to see what Lionel would do with an Erie Triplex, Legacy or VISIONLINE, it wouldn't matter to me.  That surely would be an item to have in your collection.  I don't think it would be in the next catalog, but definitely in the 2023 BIG Book. 

Scale 2900 class with heavyweight passenger cars.

I’m really hoping for a Legacy or Vision 1309. The real thing is about to embark on its first summer excursions and I’d love to see Lionel announce a fantastic model to go with it.

We need a Vision line Hiawatha.  It's long overdue.

Wish list for the next Lionel catalogue?

Lower prices!

lionchief plus 2.0 Gp38

New haven EP5 Electric that fits o 36

another batch of lionchief plus 2.0 GG1s with a penn central gg1

a New Haven lionchief set

New Haven Wash boards

new haven heavy weights that can fit an o 36 curve

lionchief plus 2.0 Alco Fa in Pennsy and New Haven

Plug n play Penn Central yard tower

Fast track hump yard set

plug n play White House

Seattle & North Coast exterior-braced 50' double-door box cars

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rslist.aspx?id=SNCT

Andrew

Scale Western Maryland M2.

ARCATA & MAD RIVER / Simpson Timber Company exterior-braced 50' double-door box cars

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...spx?id=AMR&cid=2

Andrew

The RoadRailer 53' trailers on bogies and standard 53' Trailers were transferred from Bowser to Weaver Models, then all of Weaver Models cars made in the USA were turned into the LionScale line made in the USA.

The RoadRailers and Trailers need to be made for the LionScale line, based on monthly orders, in new and old paint schemes including:

Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway

Santa Fe

Canadian National

Hub Group

EMP

J.B.HUNT

SCHNEIDER

Andrew

I'd like to see another run of 60' Pullman Standard boxcars.

Now that we know Lionel does not have MTH's PRR A5 molds (or they do but will bury them in favor of their own oversized A5), the only thing left I want from them is to complete the AFT as promised.

I really do not expect any new engine design from them for a long while.  Just reissues.

How about a Penn Central steam locomotive?!? Fantasy, I know, but I think a Penn Central steam locomotive would be a fun idea.

some pennsylvania stuff I'd like to see:

A run of semi scale P70s, B70s, and B60bs, as well as some scale X29s and r50bs

Lionmaster I1/L1

And lastly, but certainly not the least, an N1s. Lionmaster or Legacy, I just want one lol

YEA. Bring the old Legacy system back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Motorized piggy back loader.  I restored one and it is really fun to use.  After I made a video about that a visitor to my youtube channel told me about one that he motorized.  Both videos below.

PS-2 covered hopper - PLEASE

Also - Thank You

I had both of these in HO - Roundhouse Products - I may still have them

How about a run of steel mill cars? I could use some slag cars and one more hot metal car three pack.

And as an added bonus, I wish they would raid the Pollock archives and do some different styles of the cars. There are some very interesting cars that were made in the early 1900s. The number of small parts would probably make for an eye-popping price per car but it's all for a good cause

Erie Dunmore Caboose

@C_Murley posted:

Erie Dunmore Caboose

How about any good functioning smoking caboose with

interactive crew talk between an engine it's linked too?

no interest in talking trains    ...... just looking for a dunmore caboose

@Walter Anderson posted:

interactive crew talk between an engine it's linked too?

I'm not much into crew talk but this would be a cool feature! Even if radios weren't a thing in the steam+caboose era, I don't care. That would be cool. Particularly if they had a sensor track activated sequence for dropping off a car on a siding.

i would like to see more NYC, ARR and FEC lionchief diesels. F3's geeps etc.

@Rusty Traque posted:

MARX was waaaaaay ahead of you.

Rusty

I know, but how about an actual steam locomotive. Haha

Rusty- I like your renderings! Especially the Amtrak! JohnA

@Rusty Traque posted:

.

And before you say anything, I'm not without my own flights of fancy:

Rusty

If we're going to go off the deep end, why not a GS-4 in Amtrak Phase I (Bloody Nose) scheme?

Tom

@Apple & Orange Line posted:

Lionel can use a guy like RJ. (Movie quote ripped off from Risky Business)

HAHA. Lionel, you know where to find me, let's talk!

anything seaboard airline or seaboard coastline or original Norfolk Southern

i've decided to keep it local

SSW 28800-28899 COTTON BELT  "Beer Car" Pacific Car & Foundry 60' insulated box cars

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...id=SSW&rid=28800

They are still in service.

Andrew

I have all the available Lionel products in the LIONEL STEEL line-up.  I wish for a caboose (perhaps a transfer caboose) with this décor.

Mike Mottler    LCCA 12394

I for one would like to see the Lionelville Firehouse and Big Bay lighthouse accessories, as well as the 'Mainline' signals they had.

I mentioned this once before, but how about a modular signal system integrated into Fastrack. The track would have a similar design to the Defect Detector, with sensors in the trackbed, and a socket that one could 'plug in' the style of signal they want.  

Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine  O scale made in one year.

DTS 1776-1976 Bicentennial GP7 diesel-electric locomotive 

DTS 8-Door High-Cube 86' boxcar

DTS double-door 50' box car in blue

DTS PS-1 40' boxcar in yellow

DTS center cupola caboose

DTS extended-vision caboose

DTS ACF CENTER FLOW  2700 cu ft 2-bay covered hopper

DTS Standard O 42' gondola in black with the angled coil covers in black that have the DTS logo in white

Have it be possible to built a Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine train in one year.

Andrew

What I want to see more than anything (please don’t laugh to hard)  Is a Lionel Legacy GE EVOLUTION HYBRID .. does anyone think Lionel will ever produce this guy again? What’s the chance ?? It’s a bucket list item. I absolutely must own one. I would love to purchase I new one. I’m sure I’m not the only one out there. What do you guys think the chances are? Thoughts ??

A NYC woodsided caboose with details that we are used to seeing. The overall 80’s designed caboose is okay. A diecast chassis, Kadee ready, scale handrails, brake wheel,  separately applied grab irons, scale Tomar like lanterns or none at all,  more scale sized window panes, perhaps an interior, figures, scaled ladders and newer trucks. I’m not condemning smoke to those that like it. I’d rather have a scale size stack and an interior. Offer a few different coopola’s for other roads that had similar styled ones. Such as the Rutland, CV and Boston and Albany.

For all the L2a’s, B&A Berkshires and Mikado’s. Nobody has ever done a nice caboose. They all have flaws. They tooled up a beautiful bay window for the diesels. You either have to 3 rail a brass one or pay a hefty price for a Mullet River one and build your own.

You’ve made some really nice prototype engines. Make a quality detailed caboose to bring up the rear.

I have been hoping for some years now for a reissue of the Zephyr, and this time with add on cars.  I keep thinking that with the restoration ongoing of the real Mark Twain Zephyr, that the publicity would spur Lionel.  But each new catalog comes and still no Zephyr

@Erie_Lackawanna posted:

What I want to see more than anything (please don’t laugh to hard)  Is a Lionel Legacy GE EVOLUTION HYBRID .. does anyone think Lionel will ever produce this guy again? What’s the chance ?? It’s a bucket list item. I absolutely must own one. I would love to purchase I new one. I’m sure I’m not the only one out there. What do you guys think the chances are? Thoughts ??

Lionel did a custom run of the GE ES44AC #2010 Hybrid about a year or two ago for Nassau Hobby Center. They sold out pretty quick so you never know, maybe Lionel will do them again with the next run of ES44’s but it may be a few years since ES44AC’s were in the most recent catalog…

@N&WGuy posted:

Lionel did a custom run of the GE ES44AC #2010 Hybrid about a year or two ago for Nassau Hobby Center. They sold out pretty quick so you never know, maybe Lionel will do them again with the next run of ES44’s but it may be a few years since ES44AC’s were in the most recent catalog…

Wow I had no idea they did a run of them a year ago for Nassau. I would have ordered one for sure !  I have been looking for one. I don’t know how I missed it ..

Magor aluminum covered hoppers built in the 1960's for the SOO LINE, SOUTHERN, Great Northern, and others.

Made in the USA.

Stamped out of Aluminum and welded together. 

Opening hatches and discharge gates.

Andrew

I really hope Lionel is working on a Western Maryland 1309. They have the tooling for a C&O 2-6-6-2. I feel like it’s a no brainer…….as is Reading and Northern 2102. But what do I know?

ILLINOIS CENTRAL

The ILLINOIS CENTRAL 1967-1972 era, IC split rail, piggyback scheme on the O scale 40' trailers

Andrew

more strasburg stuff keep it coming

maybe one day i will land something strasburg related

@Dave_C posted:

A NYC woodsided caboose with details that we are used to seeing. The overall 80’s designed caboose is okay. A diecast chassis, Kadee ready, scale handrails, brake wheel,  separately applied grab irons, scale Tomar like lanterns or none at all,  more scale sized window panes, perhaps an interior, figures, scaled ladders and newer trucks. I’m not condemning smoke to those that like it. I’d rather have a scale size stack and an interior. Offer a few different coopola’s for other roads that had similar styled ones. Such as the Rutland, CV and Boston and Albany.

For all the L2a’s, B&A Berkshires and Mikado’s. Nobody has ever done a nice caboose. They all have flaws. They tooled up a beautiful bay window for the diesels. You either have to 3 rail a brass one or pay a hefty price for a Mullet River one and build your own.

You’ve made some really nice prototype engines. Make a quality detailed caboose to bring up the rear.

Ditto on this.  I have one kit bashed B&A caboose from Dave.  More are needed on my pike

I doubt it'd sell well but I really wanna see this be re-released. And it's already so outlandish that the inevitable 5 fantasy paint jobs wouldn't be an issue

Just one wish:  More affordable command /power options.  Not everyone already has them and some of us would buy more expensive trains if we did.

John

@Patrick B posted:

I doubt it'd sell well but I really wanna see this be re-released. And it's already so outlandish that the inevitable 5 fantasy paint jobs wouldn't be an issue

What a hoot!  If they make this a LionChiefPlus 2.0 model for under $400 (like the Doodlebugs in the current catalog) it would be very popular.  Imagine the sounds that they would put in this thing!  It would be a great crowdpleaser.  And of course, the SF Warbonnet livery would look great on that (as it does on just about everything else),