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Working my way through the build of a Western Pacific cupola caboose. The prototypes were originally Pullman boxcars built around 1916. This is my first attempt working with urethane. I hope to build a few different versions, including the bay windows. The old Atlas boxcar underframe works quite well, which is a time saver.

 

Chris

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Originally Posted by Chris Allan:

It's not a kit, I built it up from scratch. My first foray into building an O scale pattern, pouring RTV, then casting in resin. Up until now all my pattern efforts have been in 5" scale. Thanks for the encouragement!

Chris

Outstanding!!!!

Some one had made resin kits of these cabooses in the past and you totally fooled me into thinking you had one of those!

 

If you want to sell a few sets of sides, ends, etc. and enough info to build this as a kit, I think you'll have a few takers right here,

Originally Posted by Brother_Love:

Chris,

Beautiful model, can't wait to see it finished. I have been wanting to try resin for a cab too but I am chicken. What brand of casting resin/RTV did you use?

 

Keep the progress photos coming.

 

Malcolm

 

I used Bluestar V-340 RTV from Miapoxy.

 

Not real happy with the resin I used, a friend has recommended Burman Industries TC-1630.

 

What I did use was cheaper, but I experienced some amount of warpage due to the thin section of the cast.  I was able to straighten it with ribbing but I would rather pay more and have straight castings.

 

Chris

 

Originally Posted by Chris Allan:
Originally Posted by Brother_Love:
 

Not real happy with the resin I used, a friend has recommended Burman Industries TC-1630.

Interesting recommendation - that's a lot of resin!!  I'm always looking for different resin to "play" with in the shop.  I'd need to pull out a lot of molds to get my investment back out of that amount.

 

What was the stuff you were unhappy with using?

Originally Posted by Chris Allan:

I used Alumilite Super Plastic, which handles great and would likely work well for thicker castings.  I don't anticipate any problems straightening them, just a bit of a pain...

 

I am going to call Burman eventually and see if they offer their resin in smaller quantities. That would be a lifetime supply for me.

 

Thanks for the input!

 

Chris

 

Ok, I moved away from Alumilite resins years ago primarily since the working time was so short with their products.

 

I read above that you used the Miapoxy RTV; I use a good bit of their resins (Freeman) and have found them suitable for the kits that I've produced.  6 min working time and smaller amounts than gallon sizes, too.

Crummy cellphone picture (pun intended) of the painted model. I am still waiting on some photo etching to complete the steps and ladders. I used some of Norm's fine Protocraft decals as well as some of my own to finish it off, modeled circa 1940. The trucks are modified Andrews from San Juan with Grandt elliptical springs, by my friend Paul Zaborsky. Time to take a break and work on some big train parts for a while.

 

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Great looking model Chris.  Speaking of the TS, I took this picture one cold Janurary day in Modesto.  It had been retired and when I went back to get better pictures in the early morning, it was gone.  It had been replaced by a 1955 model steel bay window.  That caboose lived on in memory for yrs though, the conductor used that number to call the office via radio to get car info while doing the local work.  The caboose 308 replaced was lettered Tidewater Southern and it had the tender steps like yours IIRC.  Still any thought on selling a limited # of kits?

 

Greg

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Thanks Greg!
 
I haven't decided if I want to put this out as a kit, or finished models just yet. The only problem with a kit is writing the instructions.
 
I am not sure how much people would be willing to pay for a built-up model, I may get some opinions at O Scale West. Still waiting on the ladder and step etchings from Scotland, and I also need to get the decals finished and printed for the yellow, silver and black lettering.
 
See you in Portola this weekend!
Chris
 
Originally Posted by Greg Elems:

 

Great looking model Chris.  Speaking of the TS, I took this picture one cold Janurary day in Modesto.  It had been retired and when I went back to get better pictures in the early morning, it was gone.  It had been replaced by a 1955 model steel bay window.  That caboose lived on in memory for yrs though, the conductor used that number to call the office via radio to get car info while doing the local work.  The caboose 308 replaced was lettered Tidewater Southern and it had the tender steps like yours IIRC.  Still any thought on selling a limited # of kits?

 

Greg

 

Interesting.   Thank you for posting   One of my extended (time) projects is a Mullet River caboose kit.   There are some very nice brass etching in this kit.  I'm not sure how they get done, but they are relatively easy to work-with.  The Mullet River kit is laser cut composite/wood in addition to the brass.  Note: There are tools required for bending, applying rivet detail, and assembling the brass.  Your pictures show some great detail, indicating you have some very good tools and skills. Thanks again  Best wishes Mike.    

Originally Posted by Chris Allan:
I haven't decided if I want to put this out as a kit, or finished models just yet. The only problem with a kit is writing the instructions.

First thing O scale modelers do with instructions is to place them firmly in the trash can and then go build the kit the way they think it's supposed to be built,

 

I'd actually be happy to just get a set of the castings!

"First thing O scale modelers do with instructions is to place them firmly in the trash can and then go build the kit the way they think it's supposed to be built, "

 

Being somewhat dyslexic and never a real fan on instruction I tend to agree.

The Mullet River kit on my desk, has (8) pages of detailed drawings with notes. And (4) pages (14 steps) of written assembly instruction.  There were additional instruction on the website about using a bending brake to create the angled pieces from the flat stock etched brass.  This model was complexed to the degree I shelved-it and have just recently returned to it.  Probably an issue of any high detail kit offered. 

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Some of the largest,, best known railroads, have the most boring cabooses.  (Uh, not this one) I wonder if this WePac caboose had any side door or combine, frieght door variations?  Third Rail's brass U.P. caboose was modeled as the two variations, in two colors.  I had that problem with Mullet River, which seemed to select just those prototypes, perhaps a teensy more exciting than a Northeastern.   Every time I'd see Mullet River set up at an O scale show, I'd go through the list....I think they finally got one side door on their roster, but I haven't acquired one yet.  I would like something different from Bob Peare's 1940's kits, but Peare is still the only source for a variety, so provides fodder for kit bashes.

WP did have one side door combination caboose, the 403. It was mainly used out of Portola, CA. on the local to Reno. The side door was closed up later on in it's life. Supposedly it still exists somewhere on the north coast of CA on someone's private property:
 
 
Hi to John Z! It has been a long time since our days in the desert building the 5" scale. Maybe one of these days I will finally settle on a scale and/or gauge!
 
Chris Allan
 
Originally Posted by coloradohirailer:

Some of the largest,, best known railroads, have the most boring cabooses.  (Uh, not this one) I wonder if this WePac caboose had any side door or combine, frieght door variations?  Third Rail's brass U.P. caboose was modeled as the two variations, in two colors.  I had that problem with Mullet River, which seemed to select just those prototypes, perhaps a teensy more exciting than a Northeastern.   Every time I'd see Mullet River set up at an O scale show, I'd go through the list....I think they finally got one side door on their roster, but I haven't acquired one yet.  I would like something different from Bob Peare's 1940's kits, but Peare is still the only source for a variety, so provides fodder for kit bashes.

 

Finally finished my "pilot model". Turned out fairly nice, now I need to build one to sell at O Scale West. Unfortunately the Andrews trucks are not currently available from San Juan, at least for the moment. Hopefully that will change once he gets the molding issues worked out. Thanks for all of your encouragement and kind comments! - Chris

 

 

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Originally Posted by Brother_Love:

Great looking cabooses!!!! the word is CRAFTSMANSHIP!

Thanks! Some days building is the only way I can stay sane! My wife's cutter plotter used mostly for scrapbooking worked out well for the white vinyl end striping.

 

I also built a couple of San Juan cars for a friend with some decals I made up for the as-delivered lettering:

 

Thanks to Rail Graphics for the superb job of printing and excellent service!

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