GRJ......sounds like an old guy like me, better keep you on my good side! 
Mines been "Pre-Ordered" Since 2021 From Muffins Trains. Good thing I'm not holding my Breath lol.
Any rumblings of an update on these? If the early Q2 availability is holding true I imagine these would be in production and nearing shipping.
Last info I've heard is April of this year. I won't be surprised if that dragged into May or June.
@H1000 posted:Last info I've heard is April of this year. I won't be surprised if that dragged into May or June.
Or August... 
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Or August...
Not holding my breath on this one.
Does anyone have any updates on the WTIU? I heard they were shipping around April, but haven't heard any updates since December. I'm really hoping to get it in before York.
Still April from what my dealer told me 2 weeks ago.
FWIW, Trainworld posted availability as Sunday 30th April 2023
Waiting...waiting...waiting....now I'm between the illustrious rock and hard spot and considering buying an old used TIU/Remote just in case. I've got an old rev H1 (antique) that is hanging by a thread and goes bonkers from time to time and I've got a WTIU on pre-order which is sure to be loaded with software bugs and new hardware issues!!! What to do, what to do. Rest assured, the minute I dole out a premium for an old used TIU, the new one will ship! I should have stocked-up on TIU's and remotes over the years like @gunrunnerjohn 
Maybe this is a signal to just go back to conventional operation....wait...I think that is yet another challenge!
Kevin Mac
@Kevin MacDowell posted:I should have stocked-up on TIU's and remotes over the years like @gunrunnerjohn
When People were selling the whole set for less than $200, I couldn't resist the urge to grab a couple. I'm looking pretty astute now. 
As far as chip shortages, I’m not buying it. I worked for Applied Materials for 10 years as a customer engineer at Intel fabs in Ireland, Israel and Rio Rancho NM. To get back to production on processor cores, it would be less than a month or two, logic and microprocessors would be even shorter. There is a greed element in the equation, unfortunately. The middle men are milking the past for all it’s worth.
I dont believe it's a chip shortage issue, I do weekend work for a PCB FAB in the US and he's returned to normal manufacturing as of last October.
If I had to guess it's probably a software talent issue and possibly a greed element more in the sense of trying to make as many as possible all at once to keep the manufacturing costs down.
Just a guess though but I haven't bought the chip excuse since last fall.
@Kevin MacDowell posted:Waiting...waiting...waiting....now I'm between the illustrious rock and hard spot and considering buying an old used TIU/Remote just in case. I've got an old rev H1 (antique) that is hanging by a thread and goes bonkers from time to time and I've got a WTIU on pre-order which is sure to be loaded with software bugs and new hardware issues!!! What to do, what to do. Rest assured, the minute I dole out a premium for an old used TIU, the new one will ship! I should have stocked-up on TIU's and remotes over the years like @gunrunnerjohn
Maybe this is a signal to just go back to conventional operation....wait...I think that is yet another challenge!
Kevin Mac
I know how you feel. I just got back into the hobby about a year ago and ignorantly ordered the new WTIU not knowing how long it was already been back ordered. I decided that was a better idea than buying a used set or new, old stock. In the 9 or so months since I made that decision, it seems like the prices on eBay have almost doubled, as I came to realization I needed a backup plan. Currently I just run really nice Proto 2 & 3 engines in conventional. 🙁
I am pretty sure Gunrunner John picked up one of my DCS remotes. That almost came back to bite me when one of my WIUs started to act up. Oh well. Everything works now as a result of picking up a new WIU.
John
I have a WIU, but it's just for guests, I have no interest in running my trains from my phone. 
Forever hopeful that the WTIU would be available at the end of this month (April) I just checked. The delivery estimate is now August/September 2023. Hope that my aging TIU's last that long, and beyond, since I have little hope that even this date will materialize.
PRKMD
I ended up biting the bullet and cancelled my preorder to go with a used TIU and remote. I'm afraid my kid will loose all interest if I keep delaying finishing our layout while waiting for this.
@BroadBrush posted:I ended up biting the bullet and cancelled my preorder to go with a used TIU and remote. I'm afraid my kid will loose all interest if I keep delaying finishing out layout while waiting for this.
I was gonna cancel my pre order also. My new TIU, WIU and remote works great. I doubt we will even see it this year. Down the road when they are sold out I’ll probably sell it without gouging the price like everyone seems required to do
Since the DCS remote doesn't work with the WTIU, my interest in it disappears along with that lack of capability. I have several spare TIU's, hopefully a lifetime supply.
