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Could someone provide a good link to online register for the October 2021 York? Thank you!

This link     https://www.yorkregistration.org/     opens up to:

October 21-23, 2021 York Meet Registration
Eastern Division TCA

Online registration for the next meet will be available starting around December 5.

Stay safe and we look forward to seeing you in October.

I had the same problem, but online registration does not open until July 15, 2021.

I had the same problem, but online registration does not open until July 15, 2021.

Well that explains it! Thank you! I’m glad I didn’t miss it. Looking at Clem’s primer I noticed that York registrations have been declining for years from a high of 14,325 in April 2007 to 8,447 in April 2019. One can certainly hope that absence makes the heart grow fonder and that now people will flock back to York.  I would not be surprised to see those numbers rises significantly for October 2021!

@Windy City posted:

I haven't been to York in over ten years.  Is it still a there day show? Thurs, Fri, Sat

I calculated that it's more cost effective to fly than drive from Chicago.  Is Harrisburg the closest airport?

Any recommendations about arriving early for hotel swaps (do they still exist)

Any recommendations on lodging?

Lots of lodging suggestions and bandit meet info above.  Of course, we don't know if or how things will be different this time.

When calculating the cost, be sure to include the cost of shipping stuff back home (along with the risk of breakage).  Harrisburg is closest, but depending on airline and flight times, BWI might be an option.

I drive from central Indiana (550 miles each way) - 180 miles south of Chicago - it's a long trip, but there are several train shops to stop at, and Horseshoe Curve isn't far out of the way.

@Windy City posted:

I haven't been to York in over ten years.  Is it still a there day show? Thurs, Fri, Sat

I calculated that it's more cost effective to fly than drive from Chicago.  Is Harrisburg the closest airport?

Any recommendations about arriving early for hotel swaps (do they still exist)

Any recommendations on lodging?

The October Meet is three days.

Pat

@Mallard4468 posted:

Lots of lodging suggestions and bandit meet info above.  Of course, we don't know if or how things will be different this time.

When calculating the cost, be sure to include the cost of shipping stuff back home (along with the risk of breakage).  Harrisburg is closest, but depending on airline and flight times, BWI might be an option.

I drive from central Indiana (550 miles each way) - 180 miles south of Chicago - it's a long trip, but there are several train shops to stop at, and Horseshoe Curve isn't far out of the way.

You could make a whole week of it with all the great places to stop.

I'm going to try and make Saturday, just started a new job and don't want to be "that guy" who asks off for time right out the gate. Still it will be good to get back to doing normal things again and seeing a few familiar faces.



Jerry

Explain its a Hobby Religious thing.  Lots of folks Religiously make the trek to York every year...

or maybe it's a medial therapeutic. 

Jim

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This will be my 43rd York, missing 3 for the pandemic and 6 because of work. Most of the dealers in the Blue Hall beat me by a mile in years attending. It's a 2 hr 15 minute drive in the morning from Virginia. I usually wind up going to Eagles Nest after the show and then make the return in 4 hours never solving the bad evening traffic in Maryland.  The show has definitely gotten less crowded since I first attended in '95 and the silly no-camera, no walkie-talkie rules have been relaxed. In the old days I would drop my wife off at the mall or Value City or she would take the TCA "Ladies Bus" to the Lancaster Outlets. Well, the malls and Value City are long gone and outlets now exist elsewhere all over the country.   The show is always a great experience to meet up with friends and dealers who I've known for a long, long time.  Oh, by the way, you can also buy some train stuff there!

I have my reservations made with La Quinta for three nights. Did not make them directly with the hotel. La Quinta (direct) room rates were higher and they had, on their website at least, a pre-payment required, no refund/no cancellation policy posted (that may have changed by now; I have not checked recently). Anyhow, made my reservation via Booking.com

If you go thru Wyndham Rewards (free to join), you can book a cancellable reservation (24 hours in advance) without pre-payment (or save a few bucks by paying now, but not worth the risk IMO). My rate for October is under $120/night including tax with AARP discount.  Since LQ is part of Wyndham, the rewards program has more ability to fix problems than third-party sites.

I'm not affiliated with LQ or Wyndham; I've just had good luck with their program.

@John E K posted:

I met with Dan Danielson this morning and he confirmed the following for the October York Show:

- Registration will open online on or before July 17th. An announcement will be made through the TCA email list prior.

- They expect the tables to sell out. Aisles will be wider for adequate social distancing, causing the removal of around 170 tables.

- Member tables will be in the Black and Yellow Halls.

- Monday activity - Movie Night in the Blue Hall. Under Siege 2, Steven Seagal is the cook on a train in this one?

- Tuesday Night Reception 5:30p-7p. Hall TBD, finger food, etc.

- No activities on Wednesday.

- Show opens Noon on Thursday.

All information should be considered as subject to adjustment. Hope this helps your planning.

@WaynePa posted:

Will all the halls be open or will there be some limitations.

I understand that members who are already registered and have a table registration will have a table but they may not be in the same location. Could that change as we get closer to the date.

John posted this info a few pages back.

@Greg Houser posted:

Fyi...this was answered earlier in this thread.

-Greg

Tried to find it but no luck.

I was told the following: Orange hall only on Thursday with no tables booths only, silver and blue open with limited tables on Friday and Saturday.  

No other information on the other halls except they are listed on the registration form which was probably printed a long time ago.

@Mark Boyce posted:

Mallard, I agree, I like wider aisles that allow someone to stoop down to look at what a vendor has under the table and still let traffic including wheelchairs move easily.  I guess that becomes more important as we get older.

It would also allow room to pass around the few attending wives that stand behind their husbands blocking the aisles

As well as room for people with backpacks (This is one thing, IMHO, that Eastern should ban from the halls).

Lastly room for the growing # of scooters - I can't tell you how many times my toes were run over with these

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@Lionelski posted:

It would also allow room to pass around the few attending wives that stand behind their husbands blocking the aisles

As well as room for people with backpacks (This is one thing, IMHO, that Eastern should ban from the halls).

Lastly room for the growing # of scooters - I can't tell you how many times my toes were run over with these

I was trying to think of the word 'scooters' when I wrote wheelchairs instead.  Having just come off back fusion and knee replacement, I can better appreciate folks being able to participate with a scooter.  Unfortunately, I can also appreciate that the driver needs to be aware of where he is going and how much overhang he has.

@Nathan B posted:

As much as I want to, I won't be able to this year. I'm only limited to October York's due to our busy season every April at work. And I am currently saving up for a house. Hopefully either October 2022 or 2023 is when I'll be able to attend my first York.

Originally I was not planning on attending, but I'm changing my answer that my first York will be this year. I do know for a fact that I will be missing 2022, so 2023 will be my next one after this year's. But that long stretch will give me time to save some money.  Several of our module group members and I will make the journey. I hope to see and meet a bunch of you guys.

Now you're talking, Arnold!  4 more months.

I'll leave an update to my trying to get physically ready for a hoped for trip to York in October.  Thursday I visited the back surgeon for my first follow-up, I got my staples out, they were happy with the x-rays, and happy with how I am progressing post surgery 3 weeks ago.  Tomorrow, I start PT.  I see on the lengthy description of what they want PT to work on with me, that bending and twisting is still 4 months out.  It will be a slow process, but I'll do exactly what the therapists and doctors say to get ready for the long term and not think short term.  Still, I hope to have some coffee with you at Round the Clock, Arnold.

Mark, I'm very much looking forward to meeting you at the Round the Clock Diner.  Besides trains and the Forum, we have something else in common: back issues.

I have had a bulging disc in my lower back since my early 30s. My days of acute pain seem to be over, but I still have some relatively mild chronic discomfort. Among other things, it affects my golf game: my drives that used to be as long as 280 yards are now about 230 yards.

Once your back is stable and your doctor and physical therapist (PT) give you the green light, stretching exercises should help you. I will demonstrate to you the stretching exercises that a PT recommended to me 30 years ago.

I have previously mentioned on the Forum about one of my stretching exercises that was not recommended by a health professional: getting on my hands and knees and crawling under the train table to fix a derailment. LOL, Arnold

Thank you Pat and Arnold!!  Though I don’t play golf, I can see where back problems would definitely hurt a golf swing!  I’m glad you are feeling better!  You are right about stretching over and under a layout is an exercise the PT folks wouldn’t give us.  😄 I’m going back to the place we went to for our knee replacements.  It’s a small clinic, but those folks are good.  They make for lively conversation while all of us are struggling with our exercises too.

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My first York experience was April 2019 and I had a great time.  Here is a link to the thread of my impressions of the meet, if anyone else is thinking about going for their first time.

Just renewed my TCA membership a few minutes ago, and I plan on attending again this upcoming October.  Last time I only went one day and didn't have the opportunity to meet and mingle with any of the forum members.  Trying to figure out what activities are planned for this year and I may make it a two day event so that I can meet some of you.

I do find myself going through O-gauge 'withdrawl' as we moved into an apartment last month while waiting for our new home in southern Delaware to be built.  I probably won't buy much as I have very few holes to fill in my collection, but want to soak up the atmosphere!

Jim

@jd-train posted:

My first York experience was April 2019 and I had a great time.  Here is a link to the thread of my impressions of the meet, if anyone else is thinking about going for their first time.

Just renewed my TCA membership a few minutes ago, and I plan on attending again this upcoming October.  Last time I only went one day and didn't have the opportunity to meet and mingle with any of the forum members.  Trying to figure out what activities are planned for this year and I may make it a two day event so that I can meet some of you.

I do find myself going through O-gauge 'withdrawl' as we moved into an apartment last month while waiting for our new home in southern Delaware to be built.  I probably won't buy much as I have very few holes to fill in my collection, but want to soak up the atmosphere!

Jim

Jim, I strongly recommend that you include in your trip to York visits to the Choo Choo Barn (fabulous LHS with a great operating O Gauge layout), the Pennsylvania Railroad Train Museum,  the TCA Museum, and the tourist steam train ride through Amish country. All of these things are in the York and Strasbourg area.

You may even get lucky like me and have the beautiful young Amish girls smile at you. Arnold

Well, after some careful thought, and in consideration of my advancing age, and knees that don’t advance as easily as they used to, I reached the conclusion that the one day round trip wasn’t such a great idea. I booked Wednesday night at the La Quinta, so I figure I’ll head out Wednesday afternoon, get a good nights rest, and, assuming I wake up on time, I’ll probably even make breakfast!!! And scrapple and pumpkin anything are big no-no’s That will give me more time to browse before heading home in the late afternoon.

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Jim, I strongly recommend that you include in your trip to York visits to the Choo Choo Barn (fabulous LHS with a great operating O Gauge layout), the Pennsylvania Railroad Train Museum,  the TCA Museum, and the tourist steam train ride through Amish country. All of these things are in the York and Strasbourg area.

You may even get lucky like me and have the beautiful young Amish girls smile at you. Arnold

I probably won't do it as part of a York meet trip, but it is a great idea!

I would love to see both the Pennsylvania Railroad Train Museum and the TCA Museum AND we are temporarily living only 30 minutes east of both.

Jim

@Apples55 posted:

Well, after some careful thought, and in consideration of my advancing age, and knees that don’t advance as easily as they used to, I reached the conclusion that the one day round trip wasn’t such a great idea. I booked Wednesday night at the La Quinta, so I figure I’ll head out Wednesday afternoon, get a good nights rest, and, assuming I wake up on time, I’ll probably even make breakfast!!! And scrapple and pumpkin anything are big no-no’s That will give me more time to browse before heading home in the late afternoon.

Smart man, Paul!  I don’t know how far you have to travel, but one day trips over 3 hours away are out for me anymore.  I hope to see you there.

We made our flight reservations last night. Southwest is having a 50% off sale for fall travel. Sale ends tonight.

We’ll be arriving Tuesday afternoon of York week and heading back the following Monday morning. Things to do, people to see and trains to buy!!

Next up is to get our hotels and car rental. We’ll be staying in York, Philly and Baltimore during our trip.

I found the York Meet webpage. They have a "primer" for new attendees but it looks like it was last updated in 2017. Does anyone know if there are plans to update it? Or if there are other sources of preparatory material?

I am hoping to go to it for the first time. Wife has already signed off and will not be coming. I want to have a good idea what to expect so I can plan my time.

Thanks, Frank

@ftauss posted:

I found the York Meet webpage. They have a "primer" for new attendees but it looks like it was last updated in 2017. Does anyone know if there are plans to update it? Or if there are other sources of preparatory material?

I am hoping to go to it for the first time. Wife has already signed off and will not be coming. I want to have a good idea what to expect so I can plan my time.

Thanks, Frank

@Bruce Brown posted:

Clem Clement's tutorial on York is arguably the biblical primer. Here it is...

http://tcaetrain.org/2d-articl...Fall2019/index.shtml

Bruce hit the nail on the head!

Also, keep in mind the forum breakfast at Round The Click Diner on Thursday morning and the forum dinner gathering at Quaker Steak and Lube on Thursday evening.

Peter will start a breakfast thread a few weeks before the meet and while there usually isn't a dinner thread before the event folks start gathering around 5:30 and we pretty much take over the back part of the restaurant.  The wait staff will direct you to the back and just grab a seat.

-Greg

@shorling posted:

...At Strasburg there is the PA State Railroad Museum, TCA Museum, Strasburg  Railroad and Choo Choo Barn...

If you are traveling any distance such that you're staying overnight, be sure to spend the extra time to see all of these.

In addition, the train club in Red Lion generally has an open house on Wednesday and Thursday evening, and it should not be missed.  (Be sure to check on all events due to possible changes due to covid)

Although Clem's primer runs about 45 pages, IMHO a couple of items are missing:

1) If you are married, have a joint checking account, and in the process of building a layout--buying trains, track, scenery, etc--please think of a budget amount you don't plan to exceed. (I would also say this if you were planning on a trip to Las Vegas.) Problem is that it would be easy to drop $10,000+ at York without much effort. I always told my wife what I would be spending, and got agreement from her in advance. Thus when I returned home she did not go into shock or demanded large quantities of gold and diamond jewelry in retaliation. (I am still happily married after 30 years and attended York for 25 of them)

2) If you are a senior, knowing where all the bathrooms are located is vital. The TCA's map you get in the mail has those highlighted.  As someone previously mentioned, bring single dollar bills for the bathroom attendants.

@Rail Dude posted:

Great info, Thanks Bruce!

I very much would like to attend, (First Timer), gotta learn to quit choosing career over the love for the hobby. It's getting easier as I get older, coincidence?

I attended my first York when I was 61.  Yes, way too old considering I live a 5-hour drive away.  I agree it’s easier the older we get.  Now I’m retired, recovering from surgery, and will be 65 this fall, hopefully in good shape to attend again.  You worked hard all these years, get to York and enjoy it.  None of us knows how much longer he will be able to do it.

@Bruce Brown posted:

Although Clem's primer runs about 45 pages, IMHO a couple of items are missing:

1) If you are married, have a joint checking account, and in the process of building a layout--buying trains, track, scenery, etc--please think of a budget amount you don't plan to exceed. (I would also say this if you were planning on a trip to Las Vegas.) Problem is that it would be easy to drop $10,000+ at York without much effort. I always told my wife what I would be spending, and got agreement from her in advance. Thus when I returned home she did not go into shock or demanded large quantities of gold and diamond jewelry in retaliation. (I am still happily married after 30 years and attended York for 25 of them)

2) If you are a senior, knowing where all the bathrooms are located is vital. The TCA's map you get in the mail has those highlighted.  As someone previously mentioned, bring single dollar bills for the bathroom attendants.

I’m with you on both items, Bruce.  I have been able to keep Mrs. B. happy for 37 years.  Also, bathrooms are vital.  I’m happy to tip those fellows in the rest rooms.  There is a similar arrangement in rest rooms at Heinz Hall in Pittsburgh when we go to hear our daughter sing with the Mendelssohn Choir.

@Rail Dude posted:

So what's the best burger in York?

I did a little “internet research” on some travel websites that my wife swears by.  Never been, but the The First Post Public House, White Rose Bar & Grill, and Iron Horse York all get good reviews on their burgers.

I’ve only ever just attended the meet and had a hot dog in the one hall for lunch.  I should probably branch out a little and “experience” York.

@Rail Dude posted:

The want and can is definitely there, all that's left is the doing. I agree with that, "Trains are importanter".

So what's the best burger in York?

A couple of years ago, when I was heading back home, I passed a Five Guys not too far from the fair grounds. If you’ve never been to one, it’s a kind of build your own fast food burger chain (pick the number of patties, the toppings, etc.). Everything is cooked to order and the fries are amazing (second only to Nathan’s fries from Coney Island!!!). One point of caution... the portions of fries are rather generous to say the least!!!

@Traindiesel posted:

When trying to decide if you want to or can go to the York Meet, always remember:

Careers and school are important. Playing with and buying trains are importanter!

With all due respect, Brian, it is clear from your statement that you OBVIOUSLY spent more time “playing with and buying trains” than attending to your school studies... had you been more studious, you would know that the statement should read - Playing with and buying trains is betterer...

@Apples55 posted:

A couple of years ago, when I was heading back home, I passed a Five Guys not too far from the fair grounds. If you’ve never been to one, it’s a kind of build your own fast food burger chain (pick the number of patties, the toppings, etc.). Everything is cooked to order and the fries are amazing (second only to Nathan’s fries from Coney Island!!!). One point of caution... the portions of fries are rather generous to say the least!!!

They have great burgers - probably the best around from a chain.  Unfortunately, the one on US 30 (not too far from the meet) closed at least a couple of years ago.  Per their website, there is still one on the east side of town, but it's nowhere near the fairgrounds.

Don't eat there before getting blood work for your physical, and be sure to have your cardiologist on speed dial.

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@Mallard4468 posted:

They have great burgers - probably the best around from a chain.  Unfortunately, the one on US 30 (not too far from the meet) closed at least a couple of years ago.  Per their website, there is still one on the east side of town, but it's nowhere near the fairgrounds.

Don't eat there before getting blood work for your physical, and be sure to have your cardiologist on speed dial.

I’ll just double up on my cholesterol medication for a while!  Yah, that aught o work!  😉

@rplst8 posted:

I did a little “internet research” on some travel websites that my wife swears by.  Never been, but the The First Post Public House, White Rose Bar & Grill, and Iron Horse York all get good reviews on their burgers.

I’ve only ever just attended the meet and had a hot dog in the one hall for lunch.  I should probably branch out a little and “experience” York.

A burger is the last thing I would order at The First Post Public House.  Their seafood is much better, including cream of crab soup, crab cakes, etc.  When I go to York, the seafood is what I am after, when dining out! 

Ever since I discovered The First Post Public House in October 2015, I have been going there at least once per York trip, sometimes multiple visits.  It is a great place, with excellent food and great service!

NWL

@Apples55 posted:

A couple of years ago, when I was heading back home, I passed a Five Guys not too far from the fair grounds. If you’ve never been to one, it’s a kind of build your own fast food burger chain (pick the number of patties, the toppings, etc.). Everything is cooked to order and the fries are amazing (second only to Nathan’s fries from Coney Island!!!). One point of caution... the portions of fries are rather generous to say the least!!!

I try not to make regular visits to Five Guys (there's one a couple of miles from my home), but it is not because I don't like their burgers, hot dogs, fries, etc., but because I like them too much. Fortunately, my annual checkup with my cardiologist just a few weeks ago turned out good, so I may pay Five Guys a visit this coming week.

Another favorite of mine (and there is one at York on 30, not far from the fairgrounds) is Mission BBQ. In fact, my first visit to a Mission BBQ was at York, and I lobbied the chain hard on Facebook and other sites for a couple of years to get one built in the Youngstown, OH, area. It worked, and they opened here, just a couple of miles from home and directly across the street from the Chick-fil-A where my wife works. They appear to be doing quite well.

Looks like I'll have no problem finding good eats in York, thanks guys. We've got a Five Guys and a Mission BBQ here and I enjoy them both. We often try to be at the Mission BBQ at noon to participate in the National Anthem, always Outstanding.

Would be very interested in "York only" restaurants or Pennsylvania favorites, as the Cheesesteak and Lager sound great. I may try The First Post Public House, White Rose Bar & Grill, and/or Iron Horse York as @rplst8 suggested for a bit of local.

@Rail Dude posted:

Looks like I'll have no problem finding good eats in York, thanks guys. We've got a Five Guys and a Mission BBQ here and I enjoy them both. We often try to be at the Mission BBQ at noon to participate in the National Anthem, always Outstanding.

Would be very interested in "York only" restaurants or Pennsylvania favorites, as the Cheesesteak and Lager sound great. I may try The First Post Public House, White Rose Bar & Grill, and/or Iron Horse York as @rplst8 suggested for a bit of local.

I also try to go local whenever possible - I avoid chains that I can get at home or anywhere.  Go to White Rose if you can - not far from the fairgrounds.  Diagonally across the corner from White Rose is a brewpub with food - took a long time when we were there, but it was good.  There is also a good Mexican place on US 30 between the fairgrounds and route 83, near where 5 guys used to be - good variety, nice portions.  If you visit the Red Lion club (highly recommended), Golden Crust pizza is around the corner - great pizza and about 40 beers on tap.

I need to look into the Iron Horse.

Just hoping that these places are still in business and fully operational in October...

York news now on the TCA website:

  • "On Tuesday evening, Eastern Division will sponsor a Welcome Party.  Beer, wine, and finger food will be provided. Door prizes will also be given out.  The location has yet to be determined.
  • At the Welcome Party there will be a Lionel Vision Line Big Boy locomotive that will be given away. Tickets are $5 each and can be ordered through the Registration Form.
  • You can sign up for each event and order tickets on the registration form in the Headquarters News.
  • On Friday Night, October 22nd there will be the FREE Ice Cream Social.
  • On Saturday Morning there will be FREE Donuts and Coffee.

       

If you have not registered yet, REGISTER NOW!  Updated Registration Forms will be mailed out by July 15th. Online Registration will be available on June 25th at www.yorkregistration.org.  The call center will be operational on July 14th."

Jim

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Dan Danielson -
President's Message
To maintain your good health and safety, these changes include:

There may be fewer entrance/exit points to some Halls
Masks recommended in the Halls
Social Distancing Guidelines will be in effect
The Yellow Hall will become a Member & Dealer Hall
Due to Social Distancing Guidelines, your table(s) may not be where it was previously located
As National, State and local requirements continue to change, check the Eastern Division website, www.easternTCA.com for the latest updates to Meet guidelines. Even if the Governor lifts all COVID-19 restrictions, we will use the revised Hall plans for this Meet.

Several exciting Early Bird events will take place on the Fairgrounds beginning Monday, October 18. Plan to come to York early for:

Monday Night at the Movies

Enjoy a special showing of Under Siege 2 (Rated R), starring Steven Segal. The movie begins at 7:00 pm in the Blue Hall. Popcorn and snacks will be complementary. Limited seating. Order your FREE ticket(s) on your Meet Registration Card. This event is sponsored by Toy Trains & Collectibles of Manassas, VA.

National Toy Train Museum & National Toy Train Library Deaccession Sale

Beginning Tuesday, October 19 the Museum and Library will be offering van-loads of great train items deaccessioned from TCA’s inventory. The sale starts at 12:00 noon in the Yellow Hall. The sale will continue Wednesday through Saturday during Set up and Meet hours.

Welcome Back to the York Meet

Tuesday night from 5:30 pm until 7:00 pm enjoy meeting your TCA friends from around the country at a Welcome Party complete with beer and wine! Your first glass of beer or wine is FREE, as well as soda and water. A Cash Bar will also be available. Finger foods will be complementary. “Welcome Back to the York Meet” location is yet to be determined. Order your $5 ticket(s) on your Meet Registration Card to enter the drawing for the Lionel VisionLine Big Boy. Two (2) tickets per member, please. This event is sponsored by Heartland Hobby Wholesale and MPC Products.

As you plan your trip to York, please consider the following:
Reconfirm your hotel/motel reservation. Many lodging facilities canceled the reservations you made for April 2020
Your hotel/motel may not be serving breakfast, but rather offering a ‘Grab and Go’ bag
Many restaurants are on restricted capacity. Plan your meals – make reservations
Car rentals are unavailable in many locations – reserve early.
I hope you are as excited as we are to be going back to the York Meet. Follow the points in this letter…it will help your York Meet Team and make your visit to the Meet one to remember.
Be safe, and I will see you in October 2021.

Dan Danielson, 65-1226
President, Eastern Division-TCA
703 743-2152

The word about reconfirming your reservations is a good one.......I had switched my Hampton Inn reservation from April to October early on when the show cancellation for this April was announced......someone at Hampton Inn in Shrewsbury decided to cancel the April ones and the ones that had already been switched to this October.....

I had to call and ask them what was up and they realized their error......

Peter

The rules they put up likely reflect what was in place when they wrote those messages. I suspect when York happens that about the only thing they might recommend is those who haven't been vaccinated wear a mask , that is what is typical around here now that they lifted all the restrictions.  Yes things could change, if a new variant shows up that makes vaccines ineffective, which is always a possibility, all we can do is hope the current trend continues.

@bigkid posted:

The rules they put up likely reflect what was in place when they wrote those messages. I suspect when York happens that about the only thing they might recommend is those who haven't been vaccinated wear a mask , that is what is typical around here now that they lifted all the restrictions.  Yes things could change, if a new variant shows up that makes vaccines ineffective, which is always a possibility, all we can do is hope the current trend continues.

When my car needs fixing I heed the advice of mechanics, when I have a water leak it's a plumber I call, taxes - an accountant, you get the drift.  Therefore, when it comes to science and medical topics it's scientists and medical doctors who have my ear.   Any so called advice coming from unqualified individuals goes in one ear and out the other.  Your mileage may vary.

-Greg

@Greg Houser posted:

When my car needs fixing I heed the advice of mechanics, when I have a water leak it's a plumber I call, taxes - an accountant, you get the drift.  Therefore, when it comes to science and medical topics it's scientists and medical doctors who have my ear.   Any so called advice coming from unqualified individuals goes in one ear and out the other.  Your mileage may vary.

-Greg

That would be the infotainment actors (cable news hosts).  There is a reason they are in the same union (SAG/AFTRA).

John

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As I see it, it's really pretty simple: If the Commonwealth of PA has restrictions in place that the TCA-ED and Expo Center must adhere to (pretty unlikely for October at this point), you follow those restrictions. If there are no restrictions and you are fully vaccinated (I am), you go about visiting the meet as you normally would. If you have chosen not to be vaccinated, you can either wear a mask (nothing wrong with that if it makes you feel comfortable), or don't wear a mask/don't social distance/etc. and take your chances. All life is a gamble, and it is never risk-free. At my advanced age, I plan to do my best to live my remaining years as free, healthy, and happy as I can possibly make them. I hope to see you all at York!

@Greg Houser posted:

When my car needs fixing I heed the advice of mechanics, when I have a water leak it's a plumber I call, taxes - an accountant, you get the drift.  Therefore, when it comes to science and medical topics it's scientists and medical doctors who have my ear.   Any so called advice coming from unqualified individuals goes in one ear and out the other.  Your mileage may vary.

-Greg

What advice did I give? I didn't give medical advice, I simply commented on why the folks running York still had the advice for masks and distancing, that's all.

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