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Mike,

Thanks for the update. These will be hot sellers, especially the BNSF and the KCS. Back in late 2004 I saw a PRB brass version of the Trinity 5161 in the BNSF circle logo scheme that was very nice. I prefer the BNSF circle logo over the swoosh even though I like them both. The prototype is a very appealing design. PRB version pic late 2004.

 

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Yep.  I definitely plan to intermix both styles in my BNSF worm train!   Just the worm train will be over 60 cars.
 
Originally Posted by superpower:

Mike,

Thanks for the update. These will be hot sellers, especially the BNSF and the KCS. Back in late 2004 I saw a PRB brass version of the Trinity 5161 in the BNSF circle logo scheme that was very nice. I prefer the BNSF circle logo over the swoosh even though I like them both. The prototype is a very appealing design. PRB version pic late 2004.

 

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Originally Posted by R Nelson:

One thing I noted about the Cargill cars is, they kind of look white, rather than light gray like the prototype, but this may be just a bad color rendition of the model photos......I hope!  Any coments regarding this?

 

The NS color looks too light along with the Cargill in my opinion, but I think it's the photos and the models will look pretty good. This scheme would look sweet on an Atlas O model although I think it's a different model in capacity.

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The Trinity RailCar 5,791 Cu. Ft. Capacity 4-Bay Covered Hopper is what Minnesota Soy Processors operates. Why not have Lionel, or MTH, or Weaver Models offer a Trinity 5,791 4-bay covered hopper with all the schemes and road numbers unique to those cars?

 

Walthers already produces the Trinity 5,791 4-bay covered hopper in HO Scale, so it just seems like desperation on the part of Athearn to put those schemes on their HO scale Trinity 5,161 3-bay covered hopper.

 

Andrew

The real KCS 3-bay Covered hoppers with the Southern Belle are an American Railcar Industries Through-Sill Covered Hopper, but since nobody has the production line that can turn out that many variations yet, this will have to suffice. 

 

Should a group of investors try to produce the O Scale model of the ARI Through Sill Covered Hoppers at some factory in the world?

 

Andrew

Yeah, although so far in every scale where the KCS cars have been offered,  manufacturers are using the Trinity 3 bay instead of the ARI model.  IMO it's close enough and I wouldn't want manufacturers to spend all the time and money at least at this staget to offer the ARI version.  It would be nice, but unncessary.  However, I would like to see a modern 2-bay and 4-bay produced as noted above.
 
Originally Posted by falconservice:

The real KCS 3-bay Covered hoppers with the Southern Belle are an American Railcar Industries Through-Sill Covered Hopper, but since nobody has the production line that can turn out that many variations yet, this will have to suffice. 

 

Should a group of investors try to produce the O Scale model of the ARI Through Sill Covered Hoppers at some factory in the world?

 

Andrew

 

Some of the KCS cars in the Southern Belle scheme are made by Greenbrier.  The Greenbrier cars are very similar to the Trinity cars, more so than the ARI cars.  All three cars are similar, with the obvious difference being the rib at the transition from car side to roof.

 

Not that I want to do much bashing on a $75 car, but I wonder how convincing it would be to add a piece of strip styrene to the Atlas car to simulate the double rib at the transition on the Greenbrier cars.

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1419829

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1493591

 

The number series for Minnesota Soy Producers hoppers that Athearn is selling are correct for their 3-bay trinity cars.  However, the SOYX 3-bay Trinity hoppers are 5461 cu. ft. cars, so the Athearn car is still not 100% accurate.  But not quite as egregious as passing the 5161 cu. ft. car off as a 4-bay version.

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...cture.aspx?id=485824

 

http://www.athearn.com/Product...aspx?ProdID=ATH89258

 

Jim

 
Great!  I'm in a similar situation and will need to renumber 16 or so cars.  Do you have a run of lettering lined up already?
 
Originally Posted by Swafford:
Good Day Mike, 
 
The KCS is one of my favorite railroad's! I ordered 24 hoppers.
 
Regards, 
Swafford
 
 
Originally Posted by Mike DeBerg:
Yeah, me too! How many did you get? 
 
Originally Posted by Swafford:

 

I'm ready to build KCS Grain Trains...............

 

Regards,

Swafford

 

 

Jim, Great catch.  WOW! Not surprising that at least 3 manufacturers make these type of cars, same capacity and the funny thing as you noted below, even in HO manufacturers rarely get the right scheme on the right car, but work on the close enough principal to hopefully recover as much of the tooling costs as they can.
 
Originally Posted by big train:

Some of the KCS cars in the Southern Belle scheme are made by Greenbrier.  The Greenbrier cars are very similar to the Trinity cars, more so than the ARI cars.  All three cars are similar, with the obvious difference being the rib at the transition from car side to roof.

 

Not that I want to do much bashing on a $75 car, but I wonder how convincing it would be to add a piece of strip styrene to the Atlas car to simulate the double rib at the transition on the Greenbrier cars.

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1419829

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1493591

 

The number series for Minnesota Soy Producers hoppers that Athearn is selling are correct for their 3-bay trinity cars.  However, the SOYX 3-bay Trinity hoppers are 5461 cu. ft. cars, so the Athearn car is still not 100% accurate.  But not quite as egregious as passing the 5161 cu. ft. car off as a 4-bay version.

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...cture.aspx?id=485824

 

http://www.athearn.com/Product...aspx?ProdID=ATH89258

 

Jim

 

Eventually I wil replace them with Kadee's.  Likely 745's as I have gone through all my packs of 805's now.  Usually I replace any broken coupler with a Kadee.  Of course the older Atlas couplers break all the time.  The newer ones I've had better luck with, just that the knuckle doesn't always open.  I haven't taken one apart yet to see if the operation can be improved? Could be they just need some lubrication, could be some material in the way for proper operation...

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