Cab 1L problem

When you first connected the Cab 1L did you assign engine id's with that unit?

Then, pages 18-20 (Cab 1L manual) gives the build process. p.20 notes the DIR command to be entered to set the facing orientation when entering the TR build sequence.

Just a Legacy newb offering the obvious.

Are you using Legacy or TMCC locomotives?

If you are using Legacy locomotives, have you re-built your consist (lash-up) using the CAB-1L?

I can't think of any reason that you should get different results with a CAB1/BASE1 than with the CAB1-L/BASE1-L.  That's pretty odd.

I've just been reading through the CAB-1L manual, and the only thing that I can think of is to ask if you set the last engine in the consist as such by using the 'R' button. (See page 19 in the manual.) Without this, it would be treated as a 'middle' engine and have no lights.

John & Nicole,

I have been communicating with Lionel about the problems with the Cab 1L. I got the fix for the flickering headlight, that was the 8v. wallpack. Speaking with customer service this morning I was told the problem with the consist building is also related to the tuning of the frequency, they told me that this is a problem they have seen before. 

The service will not take any repairs until Aug. 1 until set up in the new facility.

Ray

Thanks for the update Ray. I'm sorry to hear that you may have a problem with your CAB-1L, and that you will have to wait a while to get it resolved.

Hopefully all else will be well with your CAB-1L, and I'm sure that Lionel will fix this for you as soon as they are up and running again.

The P/S issue makes sense, if the ground pin is not connected, that will cause a big issue.  I'm surprised that there's a tuning issue with the BASE1-L, I'd have thought that would all be crystal controlled, not like the old BASE1.

Lionel has been great as far as repairing the Legacy equipment that I have had problems with. I can do everything else with the Cab 1L, the consist problem I can live with for  now, actually I still have my Cab 1 and can run with that. It does the lashups the way they should work. I have other club members with the same problems with their Cab 1L, I am putting this out there for people on this forum who may have the same issue, to let them know Lionel is working on this also. I am an American Flyer guy but must say Lionel has been good in backing their products, it is great to have this system available for S gauge.

Ray

I couldn't find the thread where the member posted the details of the repair order for the CAB1L base repair. A few components changed and "frequency tuning performed" was the work completed. It's here somewhere...

I wonder what "frequency tuning" really indicates.

There is no frequency tuning on the Base1-L or Cab1-L; I know - I designed the system.

Relative to the lash-up consisting failure, please detail the exact button presses you are using that fail to operate as expected.  Also the engine details - Legacy, TMCC, the 6-number if you have it - would help.  Trains above 9 act differently, and trains below 9 require 2 digit addressing.  I would like to duplicate your results here and understand what is happening.  Either email the info to me or post here.

Thanks!

jon,

Here is the post that has the customer's quote from the repair department's work order.

Legacy Cab-1L flickering cab and headlights...

jon,

here's  a two more

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...engines-using-cab-1l

in this one several chimed in with the repair dept quote"tuned frequency"

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...-headlights-on-70ace

I'm not surprised with Jon's answer about frequency tuning.  I would have expected the CAB1-L/BASE1-L to use a digital frequency synthesizer for tuning, not any analog solution.

Then why the bs on the repair order sent to the customers?

Thank you. I will investigate and respond when I have an answer. 

Here is the note I received from Lionel with my REPAIRED NEW Cab 1L base and remote.

 got it back just now  -  Note enclosed from Lionel

Part Used for repair - 69002C104M -  CAP .1MFD 50V Ceramic Qty 1

Techs comments - Tuned Frequency - Tested.

We have to get Jon to ask them what they think they're tuning!

Ray,

I was able to duplicate the issue here.  It seems that because the Cab1-L is sending out extra commands for sound system control that are for legacy locos, the Mini Commander 2 software is unable to process the TRain assignment.  I will investigate the Mini Commander 2 code, but that of course does not help your setup.  Sorry.

I am not sure when I can implement a fix, but it may take a while due to my schedule.   In general, the Mini Commander 2 is designed for small vehicle control and small locos.  Lash-up considerations for this sort of application are quite minimal.  Basically, I consider this concern a low priority.

I do appreciate you posting the failure case, and ElectricRR will make it right for you in this application by either a refund or comparable compliant product.

Jon,

I appreciate your concern and quick investigation with this lash-up problem. I also do understand scheduling can be a hassle and will patiently wait to see what the fix may be. I have always been extremely happy with ERR, the fact that I can run my trains with a wireless remote makes this hobby so much more fun than it had ever been before. I know that is not only me but other club members that have gone with TMCC/Legacy enjoy their trains more also. The enjoyment we get from being able to go anywhere around the layout and control the trains great. We can watch operations on the layout from perspectives we had never seen before. 

The Mini Commander-2 makes it possible for us to have this kind of control even in small S gauge locomotives like the Baldwin and with enough room for sound.

Keep up the great job you guys do.

Thank you Jon

Ray