Least favorite train item

The Dreyfuss Hudson has never appealed to me.  Something about the split down the center of the nose (not going to pretend I know what that feature is called) just doesn't look good to me.  I like most streamlined steamers, but that one doesn't do it for me.

-Dave

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Adriatic posted:

I love the castings themselves; but I don't like early cast 0-4-0 tinplate where the shell is " too small", sitting high enough to look like a monster truck.

Diesels without a rounded edge. 

Instability in play of derrick cars, and propensity to swing out centrifugally.

I don't like boxcouplers

I don't like Spam

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hmmmm....looks like they forgot to post their peanut butter & spam sammich.

bmoran4 posted:

The musty, rusted, tar covered, cat littered junk that comes with the treasures...

 

(Note: I thrive on regular junk as it can be salvaged, kit bashed, or used as parts to breath life in to things)

But wait, if it wasn't crud covered, it might look like new! Then what would somebody want to charge you for it?

Brian Liesberg posted:

Anything with this on it somewhere

Marx-logo

Not even a 333? Other die cast? What's next? Vanilla ice cream? (Just kidding)

I'm curious why? Are you brand or diesel exclusive? (I get most diesels &tin) Are you a "Shoeless Joe"? Bad experience?  I haven't had an AC powered Marx model die on me yet. I cannot say that about ANY other mfg.  Lionel PW falls behind 12:1 (?) if a Marx dies here tomorrow.

Is it the logo itself? That can be sidestepped see photo #2 (though any logo developed from crossbucks is golden in my book, tastes differ.)

(None are mine)

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Edited due to "spell-wreck" and "Vindictive text" having a mind of it own

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





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phrankenstign posted:

Lionel C & O Track Maintenance Car 6-16620..........

Lionel C & O Track Maintenance Flatcar 6-16620
Lionel C & O Track Maintenance Flatcar 6-16620

 

I raised the platform once and lowered it.  The second time I attempted to raise it, I found the plastic threads had been stripped.  Lionel made such a stupid decision to save on the cost of materials by not making the mechanism out of metal.

I don't think the PW version was any different per se , but the crank would get stuck and the handle broke often. The loose fit may have been a (failed?) attempt to loosen things up or just a bad part.  Metal railing was always my wish for these. My 16620 is fine and better than my two PW were.... except for the yellow.

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





I know I should say "stinking dismals" of any model, which are not real locomotives like steamers, but electric generator prime movers and are fine for tractors, sawmills, boats and such. However, in all honesty my  little 2010 unfinished attic layout's Village side , known by the Domestic CEO as "the mess", wins out (pictured) as least favorite train item!. The "Tennessean" streamlined Ps4  4-6-2 is staged in the photo to hopefully somewhat distract from the mess.

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A&Y RY[NC's Southern/N&W connector].

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Dewey Trogdon posted:

I know I should say "stinking dismals" of any model, which are not real locomotives like steamers, but electric generator prime movers and are fine for tractors, sawmills, boats and such. However, in all honesty my  little 2010 unfinished attic layout's Village side , known by the Domestic CEO as "the mess", wins out (pictured) as least favorite train item!. The "Tennessean" streamlined Ps4  4-6-2 is staged in the photo to hopefully somewhat distract from the mess.

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What's wrong? Tell her it's "prog-mess". When you make progress you make prog-mess. It's honorable; inspirational I bet it goes back on shelves in an hour.

....if you can actually get finished without inspiration dragging you back into working on one of the odds and ends you pick up, it could happen..  

 

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





Adriatic posted:

Not even a 333? Other die cast? What's next? Vanilla ice cream? (Just kidding)

I'm curious why? Are you brand or diesel exclusive? (I get most diesels &tin) Are you a "Shoeless Joe"? Bad experience?  I haven't had an AC powered Marx model die on me yet. I cannot say that about ANY other mfg.  Lionel PW falls behind 12:1 (?) if a Marx dies here tomorrow.

I started off in O gauge with Marx trains. I didn't like the way they felt, the way they ran, the way they looked... it is a very budget brand and it shows in my opinion.

I agree with you that they are almost impossible to kill, I found one in the middle of the desert, took it home and put some oil on it and it ran! But you probably won't get much of an improvement from a new locomotive from them, with their grindy motors and flimsy construction I'll pass on anything Marx. I do prefer Lionel, but I have some Flyer, Ives, Dorfan, and some Marklin as well. 

I've never seen the appeal of them, but I'm sure there are plenty of scale modelers that'll say the same thing about my tinplate collection though, so to each his own.  

 

If you can't buy it... restore it. If you can't restore it... make it. If you can't make it...dangit...

  Your tin & postwar are a large part of the curiosity over the blanket statement. The tin it an easy guess. IMO, the scale steam equals the competition. (I'm not found of Marx coupling outside of rivitet tabs)

  I also found one, digging. I brought one up out of a dirt floor & it still runs today. It slowly won my respect over 30 years. 

I didn't mind the target car falling apart. It didn't happen. Mine had trouble triggering when hit and was sturdy. IF you used the wheels to move them.  The large missles worked well enough on a direct hit and could be aimed well.  The small missles and launchers aim was useless.

  The space aged Army mobile launch engine was the single most disappointing item in performance vs my expectations. 

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





Larry Sr. posted:

I have kicked myself for buying this Legacy engine from day one.

What was I thinking Minneapolis & St Louis !!!!! It has set in the display cabinet for lots of time

Oh well,  sometimes ya just can't fix stupid

Larry

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How long has the MPC one had it's shell on backwards while in the case?

True they aren't a perfect match, but they could look OK heading up a train!

-Dave

 

When circuit boards in older MTH/lionel locos burn out, have a few that are put into a box and put away, eventually I'll figure out how to fix it. On tinplate trains I hate the way some of the bodies are fitted together with slot and tab, I'm always worried that they will break off  (it's happened before) 

palallin posted:
Rob English posted:

So I got rid of 'em.  

I am moving in a similar direction.  I will keep most of the engines but strip their boards and simplify the controls.  I have come to *really* dislike CC and all its attendant paraphenalia.

Wow, and here I thought I was the only one... 

Mark in Oregon

This Hafner Overland Flyer Passenger Car that was my first purchase at a train show. Caused me to have to go to the ATM again. I also have absolutely no use for it, just as so excited to be at my first train show and see something I'd always seen online  in person. Not at home so I took this screenshot of it from TCAwestern

 

 

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Santa Fe 3751 posted:

This:

It speaks for itself. 

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I bet it will outsell a couple of the challengers in that group. 

Anybody remember the daylight?

Dave

I vomited out of my eyes when I looked at this.

Patiently Waiting for more O scale Lehigh Valley Steam Locomotives.  

 

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Come to think of it.  Three things. 

1. ZINC

2. This

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3. These

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more specifically, this phenomenon.  

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when i was young, i bought a pair of 0-36 switches.  They were out of the box and on the table for a total of 15 minutes before I broke the two of them right off.  I still have them some 15+ years later and they work fine but I have not yet found a permanent solution to glue the heads of the stand back on.  I think they look cool but they're too fragile for their own good.  

Patiently Waiting for more O scale Lehigh Valley Steam Locomotives.  

 

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Blake posted:

When circuit boards in older MTH/lionel locos burn out, have a few that are put into a box and put away, eventually I'll figure out how to fix it. On tinplate trains I hate the way some of the bodies are fitted together with slot and tab, I'm always worried that they will break off  (it's happened before) 

  Try annealing the tin tabs a bit  with a soldering iron before disassembly to stop/slow the "work hardening" from repeated bends of the metal.  When possible, twisting tabs seems to work better, and  without snapping on a fold too.

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





Freight Train Jim

I will agree the Target Launching car is stupid.  Most of the Lionel space cars are also.  I stayed away from all of them for years but got the space car bug a few years ago.  Most are frustrating and hard to get to fire or hold together like the exploding box car.

But the Target Launching car actually works quite well and at least uses track power instead of dry cells.  My grand kids love to see it suspend the balloon and have it hover over the car and follow it around the layout, of coarse staying out of tunnels and over head signals.

Charlie

 

Adriatic posted:
Brian Liesberg posted:

Anything with this on it somewhere

Marx-logo

Not even a 333? Other die cast? What's next? Vanilla ice cream? (Just kidding)

I'm curious why? Are you brand or diesel exclusive? (I get most diesels &tin) Are you a "Shoeless Joe"? Bad experience?  I haven't had an AC powered Marx model die on me yet. I cannot say that about ANY other mfg.  Lionel PW falls behind 12:1 (?) if a Marx dies here tomorrow.

Is it the logo itself? That can be sidestepped see photo #2 (though any logo developed from crossbucks is golden in my book, tastes differ.)

(None are mine)

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Edited due to "spell-wreck" and "Vindictive text" having a mind of it own

I like that bottom loco.

balidas posted:
Adriatic posted:
Brian Liesberg posted:

Anything with this on it somewhere

 

Not even a 333? Other die cast? What's next? Vanilla ice cream? (Just kidding)

I'm curious why? Are you brand or diesel exclusive? (I get most diesels &tin) Are you a "Shoeless Joe"? Bad experience?  I haven't had an AC powered Marx model die on me yet. I cannot say that about ANY other mfg.  Lionel PW falls behind 12:1 (?) if a Marx dies here tomorrow.

Is it the logo itself? That can be sidestepped see photo #2 (though any logo developed from crossbucks is golden in my book, tastes differ.)

(None are mine)

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Edited due to "spell-wreck" and "Vindictive text" having a mind of it own

I like that bottom loco.

Looks like a customized Marx 666

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Yorba Linda, CA

Left Coast, Home of the lunatics

An old K-Line Shay with stolen TMCC IP in it. Worked well, and the IP theft sorta got sorted in the end, but I sold it anyway, figuring someday I'd replace it with one I felt better about.

Cheers, Bob  "Hauling Glory to the Dead Beat since 1996"

overlandflyer posted:

prewar coupler

I actually really like this design. I have a beautiful Lionel 225e set with three 2600 series passenger cars with these. They don't look as nice as the smaller chrome latch couplers and they keep the cars coupled father apart, but they couple together nicely and some are electric. I find the original latch couplers to be a bit of a pain to couple together and they have a less solid grip on each other as opposed to the aforementioned box couplers. 

Adriatic posted:

I don't like boxcouplers

I don't like Spam

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A bit off topic, but Netflix just added Monty Python's Flying Circus to their service, I just watched this episode the other day. Here's a link to the Spam sketch

The Marx 666 was part of a members post some years ago. I forgot who's; but instantly recalled it when seaching for a few "scale" examples of Marx. It happened to be on the first lines of results. I don't recall much more than paint being done, though I could be wrong. I just recall thinking it was a very sharp looking loco. I think it's the "raw metal" look of the grey I'm especially drawn to. Regardless, it's hard for me grasp not liking it; but "milage may vary"

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





PR&NJRR posted:
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3. These

Image result for lionel fastrack manual switch stand

more specifically, this phenomenon.  

Image result for lionel fastrack manual switch stand

when i was young, i bought a pair of 0-36 switches.  They were out of the box and on the table for a total of 15 minutes before I broke the two of them right off.  I still have them some 15+ years later and they work fine but I have not yet found a permanent solution to glue the heads of the stand back on.  I think they look cool but they're too fragile for their own good.  

I wasn't familiar with that since I never bought any manual ones, but your post made me think a bit, and I'll add the Remote/TMCC versions of the lantern cover to the list.

It's way to common for those darn things to fly off when flipping the switch form one position to the other.  Who would have thunk anyone would ever actually switch them?   It seems worse with higher voltages(more "snap" when flipping them), like for an example if someone actually operates their TMCC/Legacy Layout at a constant 18 volts.

 

(edit: oops... what I get for posting way too early in the AM... I see Richie C beat me to it a while back.... my bad for not re-reading earlier part of thread (on this page, no less! )

-Dave

Adriatic posted:
The Marx 666 was part of a members post some years ago. I forgot who's; but instantly recalled it when seaching for a few "scale" examples of Marx. It happened to be on the first lines of results. I don't recall much more than paint being done, though I could be wrong. I just recall thinking it was a very sharp looking loco. I think it's the "raw metal" look of the grey I'm especially drawn to. Regardless, it's hard for me grasp not liking it; but "milage may vary"

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...r-2-0-2-4-2-to-4-6-2

Found this last night after I made my post. I like that Marx. I may try to do one myself someday.

josef posted:

I guess the Cabooses made with smoke units would fit in here as a most useless feature. My wife and friend got me each several. But after seeing the results here from melted roofs and sides, I've never tried this feature out.

I had one of those Lionel cabooses, too, but didn't know I had company in having melted a roof. I just figured it was due to my being overly enthusiastic about having the caboose spew volumes of smoke continually. (I'm still not sure why the melting happened.) However, a friend managed to save the roof - I don't know how - and heavily weathered the entire shebang to cover-up any flaws. I like it now, as it is, but don't run the smoke unit any further (I'm not even sure it is still inside.)

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FrankM

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When I went to put  up my 3 rail I was shocked at the newer Lionel snap track.  The "rail?" used in Lionel's fast track.  It should be ripped out, turned over and used for scale rain gutters.  By it's self it could never be mistaken for actual model train rail.  Functionally, the track actually works well, the rail is an insult to model railroading IMO.

Eternity is a long time to have been wrong.

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