Legacy - Any Update on Availability

Did you just fall off the turnip truck?

 

Dude was busting your chops so bad and you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

       
       

Who cares what is this high scool

I apologize as I was being factitious about C94 working for Lionel BUT I do believe that the angst from the 990 system delays are based in passion for the hobby and just wanting to have fun with Legacy locomotives.  C94 is right on target that without Legacy the locomotives are not anywhere near as fun with it.

 

This is very frustrating.  C94 obviously does have a passion for wanting to run trains with Legacy.  I was 100% as upset years ago when Legacy was "coming out" for the very first time and was put off several times.  I even challenged OGR to do a inquiry as a mover and shaker in our hobby.

 

I do think C94's thought on TBA is better than throwing dates, that at the time maybe projected as correct, fall flat. 

 

So I was having a little fun and I apologize but the dude has passion and I respect that.  I understand his frustration from years ago.  I really hope for his and the others waiting for Legacy that in July we are not seeing this thread again.  Nothing makes a Legacy loco perform to it's full potential as a Legacy system.

 

That's all I'm going to say on this subject. C94 I hope you get your 990 soon.

 

 

Couldn't agree more Marty. I have had a 990 on preorder from Legacy Station since last June. I've gotten some Vision engines and another Legacy engine waiting to be used at their peak potential but it's true what they say, patience is a virtue.

And additionally I think, distance makes the heart grow fonder.

We all want the 990 to get fully immersed in the hobby we all love. Not love to hate.

Wasn't that 'absence makes the heart grow fonder'? Anyway you have been waiting longer than I have, I was 3 months later in ordering. Hopefully we will see one soon, and good luck to us all (including Lionel).

No one can argue that patience is a virtue but at some point in time the law of diminishing returns begins to kick in.  Someone needs to apply just a wee bit of pressure on Lionel to be at least somewhat forthright with their buying public as to why the 990 has been delayed for shipping and an honest estimate as to when it will finally be distributed.  For many, and I certainly include myself, after over a year of waiting patience begins to wear thin.  If they want to wait until it meets their level of acceptance I have no problem with that but at least let us know.    

How come Lionel won't tell us when the Legacy 990 Command System will be available?

 

I mean they keep advertising on their website and catalogs about all the new Legacy engines and stuff.

 

Why are they so silent?

Although my wait has been much shorter with, my cab 1, just going

blinky -poo,  Is there a way direct to get Lionel to get an answer,

Hey folks call the port or the manf facility, and get some kind of an answer,

 

Will Howard, give us that ,  wished I had asked as he was throwing Polar express

cars on the table, at LCCA, back in FEB!

If you can find a way to get Lionel to directly respond to ANY question as to when the updated version of the Legacy 990 System will be actually distributed in my opinion you should receive the OGR Man of the Year award. Lionel seems to be as silent as a grave on the subject.

http://youtu.be/Ly-ZuaEi3hU at around 5:20 mark Reagan says by end of the year...ugh

It's a good set of videos.

They answer more questions than they generate.

Lionel does not have a clue when it'll arrive.  That's why the schedule keeps shifting 'right'

 

This is how you'll know:

If a #990 package is on your front door step.   That's when it has arrived.

 

 

 

I'm sure glad I have my Legacy system!

Just cancelled my order for both Legacy engines I had on pre-order as well as the 990 system.  I've always liked the MTH DCS system far better anyway.  I was just going to add the Legacy to the layout for something to do. Lionel has bigger problems than just the delivery of the 990.  I wish them the best, but I will take my business elsewhere.  

I still have a brand new 990 system sitting on the shelf at my hobby shop. If somebody doesnt buy it soon im going to buy it for the work bench

I am sure I will take some flack for this but I have giving some serious thought to just putting mine up on ebay for a high buy it now price to see if I get any takers.  What do I have to loose.   If no one buys it for my asking price I still have my 990 set and if someone does then I can use my old TMCC setup until Lionel gets back in stock and I have made a few bucks.  

I don't know how to take the comment about buying the Cab-1L as a stop gap while I wait for the Cab-2. I was okay with the wait and understand supply chain flow but that comment rubbed me the wrong way. 

 

I guess it would be nice for Lionel to extend some gesture to those waiting.

Free CAB1-L/BASE1-L systems?

 

I'm sure that Lionel is as frustrated about the delays as any of us! Having spent years in aerospace manufacturing facilities, I'm quite aware of component issues that seem to come from left field and delay projects for months and sometimes even years!  Since nobody here has visibility as to the real reason for the delay, all this Lionel bashing seems pointless.

 

Agree on the Lionel bashing front. Not sure what type of gesture they could extend, but could be a discount on a future product.

 

I'd be curious to know the demand of the 1L, has it seen a bump since the latest bumps in delivery estimation.

 

I think it would have to be a two way street...you buy an L system from Lionel direct or with an invoice from a Lionel dealer, and within some period after 990s are available, a generous trade-in or discount voucher on a 990.

The Legacy system is version 1.4 and it is full retail $399.95. If you want it, email me otherwise I will not respond to any more interested parties

I posted this information once before after attending the Lionel Red Carpet event in NC.

 

The issue with availability is a simple one. The components in the current production were not up to standard and needed to be replaced.

 

One of original components, but a critical one,  that are in the Legacy sets that everyone already has are obsolete. The supplier made a substitution that was not satisfactory upon testing.

 

Lionel is in the process of finding the obsolete components so that they can get the latest batch into the marketplace. It is my understanding that they needed 2000 of the components, found 1000 and were looking for the rest. This was at the time of the event in NC.

 

Lionel has also decided to restructure the Legacy 990/993 to use many of the components in the current CAB1L system. The reason for this was the make the product easier to produce. It was projected that this hardware upgrade would be in Legacy systems in 2015.

 

All of this information was shared with us by Mike Regan at the event in NC.

The latest videos say 'they are handling the problem internally' or close to that anyway and it will be out late this year (just hope that got that date right). I agree with the others that the Cab1L/Base1L is an option, but I don't think anyone should have to purchase something else for a couple hundred bucks to get by with until they resolve their issues. That was kind of a rub to me also and I won't be purchasing one.

 

I would take Matt up on his 'Legacy on the shelf offer', but unfortunately I have already paid for mine that is on order from my LHS (did that late last winter). I am quite surprised no one has taken him up on that. The only advantage I have from sticking with my order is it's paid for and I got it with a nice discount before the price increase in the new catalog.

 

I also agree that Lionel is probably the most frustrated of all. I'm sure they didn't want this to happen either. Not much I (or we) can do about it except try to wait them out until they resolve their problems...So it goes as we continue the wait.

Well somebody finally took me up on the Legacy system. Its about time

Thank God!