I could use some help. I’m looking for a Lionel Mikado headlight. I’ve looked at the parts diagram Lionel has online, didn’t see it. Anybody know if this headlight was used on other models or where it might be available?
Thanks,
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
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I could use some help. I’m looking for a Lionel Mikado headlight. I’ve looked at the parts diagram Lionel has online, didn’t see it. Anybody know if this headlight was used on other models or where it might be available?
Thanks,
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
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What's the product number of your engine? Without that it's impossible for anyone to relate to the 'parts diagram' you refer to.
(6408053001) A/F PRR 2-8-2 Mikado Locomotive, is the heading on the parts page. They show a part 36 which is:
LAMP / 14V 60MA / CLEAR / GRAIN OF RICE / W/CONN |
But for only $1.80, I figure is it only the bulb.
Do you know the product number of your engine because that would be helpful too?
It looks like you only get the headlight detail if you purchase the entire shell, which is unavailable.
If you can remove the headlight and post photos, maybe someone can suggest a substitute that might work.
yes: 6-48053. Interesting that it is so close to the number Lionel has on their parts page.
6408053001 compared to 6-48053... I just tried and either number will work.
@RickO posted:It looks like you only get the headlight detail if you purchase the entire shell, which is unavailable.
If you can remove the headlight and post photos, maybe someone can suggest a substitute that might work.
Rick, I am sure the headlight is not part of the boiler casting – it keeps falling off. I would like to purchase more because it looks like a perfect example of the Pyle National 18” headlight which I would like to use for other engines. Precision Scale Company has one, however it has a visor and I don’t know how filing off the visor would go. And I don't know if it comes with a lens.
https://www.precisionscaleco.c...8/04/S-Scale-WOP.pdf page 20
Here is a shot of the Mike and the headlight.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Instead of searching the parts site on the item number, search parts on headlight. Scores will show up.
https://www.lionelsupport.com/...eadlight&match=0
Pete
@Tom Stoltz posted:Rick, I am sure the headlight is not part of the boiler casting – it keeps falling off. I would like to purchase more because it looks like a perfect example of the Pyle National 18” headlight
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
I was merely implying it appears Lionel doesn't offer the headlight separate from the rest of the shell.
@Norton posted:Instead of searching the parts site on the item number, search parts on headlight. Scores will show up.
https://www.lionelsupport.com/...eadlight&match=0
Pete
Thanks, Pete, there are 500 listings but only a few S scale. I've looked at a lot of them but not all yet.
Anybody familiar with Precision Scale castings?
Tom
Some of the O scale headlights are pretty small, even those used on O scale engines. PSC does O and HO scale. You can go to their website and download copies of their catalogs. I use their O scale headlights on a few of my engines.
Pete
They also have a S scale catalog. Do the headlights come with a lens? The S scale one I'm interested in has a visor which I would file off. Based on he ones you have bought, do you think filing off the visor is reasonable?
Tom
@Norton posted:
Neat. I did find a couple in the Lionel parts list. I wonder if being a toy train company, if they use the same pats for both S & O. I also wrote to their parts help people a couple of days ago -- nothing yet.
if you are trying to find another housing why can’t you just super glue the original back on
@cocker posted:if you are trying to find another housing why can’t you just super glue the original back on
I'm looking for a source for them. I want to use them for other engines I plan of remodeling.
Tom
ok. Was puzzled, try wiseman services
Well, Lionel doesn't have the Mikado headlight. Does anybody know if Lionel might use the same headlight on some of their O gauge line. From the parts catalog I found several that look to be the same, however you can't judge the relative size from the pictures.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Pete gave you the answer, PSC casts PRR headlights by the droves,....sounds like you’re beating a dead horse with Lionel,.....most of us that build custom works go straight to PSC for parts .....PSC stands for Precision Scale Parts ,....it’s kinda their game,....here’s a PRR headlight part # 40207 ,....
@harmonyards posted:Pete gave you the answer, PSC casts PRR headlights by the droves,....sounds like you’re beating a dead horse with Lionel,.....most of us that build custom works go straight to PSC for parts .....PSC stands for Precision Scale Parts ,....it’s kinda their game,....here’s a PRR headlight part # 40207 ,....
Hi there harmonyards,
Well, I could sort of make do and go with the Lima, don’t know if it is a PRR standard, but I’m after a Reading Company style. The Lima is 16” while the one I have my eye on from PSC is the 18” Pyle National. Unfortunately, it appears to only come with a visor which mans I would have to file the visor off – maybe not a big deal for some, but I have never tried so all I can say is, I don’t know, seems doable. Also the PSC casting needs to be drilled out for the LED and one has to come up with a lens. That all seems like a lot of unnecessary work if a ready-made one is available for $6.50 from Lionel.
Did your example come with the shelf? the shelf doesn't show in the catalog.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
@Tom Stoltz posted:Hi there harmonyards,
Well, I could sort of make do and go with the Lima, don’t know if it is a PRR standard, but I’m after a Reading Company style. The Lima is 16” while the one I have my eye on from PSC is the 18” Pyle National. Unfortunately, it appears to only come with a visor which mans I would have to file the visor off – maybe not a big deal for some, but I have never tried so all I can say is, I don’t know, seems doable. Also the PSC casting needs to be drilled out for the LED and one has to come up with a lens. That all seems like a lot of unnecessary work if a ready-made one is available for $6.50 from Lionel.
Did your example come with the shelf? the shelf doesn't show in the catalog.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Oh no, no no,...this is where the fun is!!..go down to your local harbor freight tool store and find a doming set, they’re pretty inexpensive, and worth their weight in gold for making reflectors, lenses are also easy as pie!...find some clear acrylic, measure the ID of the headlight bucket, and punch a bunch out,...making your own parts is half the fun, ....😉
@harmonyards posted:Oh no, no no,...this is where the fun is!!..go down to your local harbor freight tool store and find a doming set, they’re pretty inexpensive, and worth their weight in gold for making reflectors, lenses are also easy as pie!...find some clear acrylic, measure the ID of the headlight bucket, and punch a bunch out,...making your own parts is half the fun, ....😉
Wow! That is really cool. However, for my level of modeling, buying a $45.00 set to make domes makes no sense if I can get one from Lionel for $6.50.
Thanks for sharing this. What thickness acrylic did you use?
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Tom,
This is probably not quite the answer you are looking for, but about two months after Lionel delivers the Legacy AF Pacifics, the headlight part should become available. A long wait, I know, but a temporary repair could tide you over until the late fall.
A friendly thought.
Bob
Well Tom, keep plugging away at ol’ Lionel.....hope you find a suitable part that’ll do the job,.....😉
Pat
@Bob Bubeck posted:Tom,
This is probably not quite the answer you are looking for, but about two months after Lionel delivers the Legacy AF Pacifics, the headlight part should become available. A long wait, I know, but a temporary repair could tide you over until the late fall.
A friendly thought.
Bob
Thanks Bob, two months at this point is nothing if they are indeed the same. Do you have a picture? It's not for a repair but for an upgrade to a Flyer Atlantic. I'm just at the collecting parts point now.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
@Tom Stoltz posted:Hi there harmonyards,
Well, I could sort of make do and go with the Lima, don’t know if it is a PRR standard, but I’m after a Reading Company style. The Lima is 16” while the one I have my eye on from PSC is the 18” Pyle National. Unfortunately, it appears to only come with a visor which mans I would have to file the visor off – maybe not a big deal for some, but I have never tried so all I can say is, I don’t know, seems doable. Also the PSC casting needs to be drilled out for the LED and one has to come up with a lens. That all seems like a lot of unnecessary work if a ready-made one is available for $6.50 from Lionel.
Did your example come with the shelf? the shelf doesn't show in the catalog.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Filing/sawing off the visor will only take a couple of minutes. Brass is easy to work with in this regard. Drilling it out is easy but will take a little while. The hardest part is holding onto it firmly enough so that you can drill while not indenting the brass. As for the lense, that's super easy - use Bondic. Hold LED in place, squirt in enough Bondic to fill the space, shine the little Bondic UV light on it for 10 seconds and your done.
@Chuck K posted:Filing/sawing off the visor will only take a couple of minutes. Brass is easy to work with in this regard. Drilling it out is easy but will take a little while. The hardest part is holding onto it firmly enough so that you can drill while not indenting the brass. As for the lense, that's super easy - use Bondic. Hold LED in place, squirt in enough Bondic to fill the space, shine the little Bondic UV light on it for 10 seconds and your done.
Now that seems doable, thanks Chuck. I looked at the existing Berk's headlights and disappointingly, they are not the same as the Mikado. That puts me back to brass castings and the Bondic might be my way forward.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
So Tom... what did you come up with?
Mark in Oregon
@Strummer posted:So Tom... what did you come up with?
Mark in Oregon
Hi Mark,
I ordered the Pyle National 18" with visor from PCS. I have no real idea what I'll do though probably Chuck's suggestion of using Bondic for a lens makes sense.
I actually ordered a bunch of stuff from PCS, River Raisin, and Tomalco. I am cobbling together detail parts to up grade a Flyer Atlantic into something resembling a Reading P-7sb Atlantic. A P-7sb will look great pulling the AM Reading heavyweight set... if Ron ever gets around to producing it.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Cool. Be sure to post some pictures... 🙂
Mark in Oregon
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