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RSJB18 posted:

Great photos of Latham Andy. Shows how Home Depot has taken the fun out of lumber shopping. I can still remember going to the lumber yard with my Dad as a kid. They had a huge radial arm saw that always scared the you-know-what out of me when I was little.

Riverhead Lumber on Roslyn Rd. has a similar lumber shed off the back of the building too.

SIRT- where did you get those old flip signs? It was like playing a slots in Atlantic City waiting to see what town came up when they stopped flipping. I'm sure there's a few retired LIRR electricians out there who know all the details on those signs.

Bob

Bob, 

I was afraid of that saw too. Riverhead Building Supply took over Latham Lumber on Roslyn Rd. Thankfully places like this still exist.

Andy

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CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

It was the name given to the passenger trains to Creedmore Psychiatric Hospital by LIRR employees.  The name "Creeper" referred to the speed the trains traveled down the branch but may have had other, less politically correct implications, as well.  The histories of the branch and hospital are quite interesting:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Creedmoor_Branch

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...edmoor/creedmoor.htm

Wow, RTH, I haven't heard "Creedmoor in almost 60 years'...When I was a kid, if my friends and me, did something stupid... we would hear' Keep it up, and you'll wind up in "Creedmoor"........(LOL)  

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First photo I have ever seen. Nice. Now as to the freight received... Once again it comes down to CR4s, waybills, etc. of which I find none. ☹ Based on the freight dock it wasn't refrigerated meat products, thus I'll go with other non-refrig commodities as follows:  Wiki: In addition to meatpacking, Swift sold various dairy and grocery items, including Swiftning shortening, Allsweet margarine, Brookfield butter, cheese under the Brookfield, Pauly, and Treasure Cave brands, and Peter Pan peanut butter. Swift began selling frozen turkeys under the Butterball brand in 1954. Gustavus Swift also championed the refrigerated railroad car.  I sure would like to know the lading it received!

 

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I think this picture also came from the Mineola Historical Society. The quality isn’t so hot, but it’s the only picture I’ve seen of Wilson & Co., in Mineola. I’d be thrilled if someone else has a better shot. The Oyster Bay Branch is in the foreground, just after it comes off the main. 

Andy

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RSJB18 posted:
MELGAR posted:

The most familiar bridge for me was the one over Post Avenue in Westbury. I guess it will be replaced during the 3rd Track Project.

MELGAR

Mel- the video I posted was the Post Ave bridge getting replaced last year. When they did the job they put up the third span as part of the new structure.

Bob

Thanks Bob. I hadn't noticed the link. Whatever anyone says about the MTA or LIRR, they are very capable organizations. My family lived near the Westbury Station when I was a youngster. My father bought Oldsmobiles from Mack Markowitz on Post Avenue, a block or two north of the bridge. Picture below shows an LIRR calendar opened to the month of March 2000 with a photo of G5s 39 on the Post Avenue bridge (photo date March 26, 1954). The calendar has hung on the wall of my train room opened to this photo for 19 years. A reminder of my youth on Long Island.

Another reminder is my MTH model of LIRR G5s 21 which has been on my layout almost as long as the calendar.

MELGAR

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Passing through Jamaica today, I noticed this passenger car wasting away at the Hillside facility. It looks like it’s a P74B passenger car. This information from the Trainsarefun website: 

P74B DETAILS

Exterior:  Lightweight, arch-roof locomotive-hauled coach; large, square paired windows; diaphragms; four-wheel trucks.

Interior:  84-seat coach; 2/2 reclining seats; mechanical air conditioning; recessed incandescent lighting; full length baggage racks; four toilets.

Modernization:  2/2 reclining seats replaced with 3/2 vinyl reversible seating for 117; three toilets removed; safety chains replaced diaphragms; mechanical air conditioning replaced with undercar diesel generator; electric marker lights.

General:  Built for the Boston & Maine for general long distance service.  Cars were delivered as follows:

          ex-          Date          ex-       Date           ex-       Date

Car #      B&M      Rec’d          Car #      B&M   Rec’d           Car #   B&M   Rec’d

7521       4593       9/9/1958          7531       4602    1/23/1959     7541    4601    5/14/1959

7522       4586       9/9/1958          7532       4606    1/23/1959     7542    4614    5/14/1959

7523       4588       9/9/1958          7533       4610    1/23/1959     7543    4605    5/14/1959

7524       4585       9/9/1958          7534       4612    1/23/1959     7544    4608    5/14/1959

7525       4591       10/15/1958      7535       4613    5/2/1959       7545    4599    5/16/1959

7526       4590       10/15/1958      7536       4604    5/2/1959       7546    4607    7/18/1959

7527       4594       10/15/1958      7537       4611    5/2/1959       7547    4595    7/11/1959

7528       4589       10/15/1958      7538       4609    5/7/1959       7548    4603    7/24/1959

7529       4587       10/15/1958      7539       4597    5/7/1959       7549    4596    7/29/1959

7530       4592       9/9/1958          7540       4598    5/7/1959       7550    4600    8/11/1959

 

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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Rapid Transit Holmes posted:
CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

It was the name given to the passenger trains to Creedmore Psychiatric Hospital by LIRR employees.  The name "Creeper" referred to the speed the trains traveled down the branch but may have had other, less politically correct implications, as well.  The histories of the branch and hospital are quite interesting:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Creedmoor_Branch

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...edmoor/creedmoor.htm

Wow, RTH, I haven't heard "Creedmoor in almost 60 years'...When I was a kid, if my friends and me, did something stupid... we would hear' Keep it up, and you'll wind up in "Creedmoor"........(LOL)  

Creedmoor, before the "loony bin," was the home of international shooting competitions. Growing up in the NYC metro area, I heard the "You'll wind up in Creedmore" used.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is a great thread, thank you guys for posting all this good stuff.

I moved south out of Long Island in 2003, but have lots of family up there (Bayville, Oyster Bay, Bethpage, Babylon, etc.) and spent over 4 yrs commuting from Bayville to NYC via the Locust Valley station, or Syosset/Hicksville.  My brother commutes from Bethpage to NYC every day, for around 20 yrs now.

Here's a couple pics of me at the Oyster Bay Railroad Museum https://www.obrm.org back in 2016 when I last visited.

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I lived in Bellerose (Hempstead Branch) from 1968 - 1972 and then in Freeport (Babylon Branch) from 1980-1987.  I was an almost daily rider to Penn Station where I went to work, as a conductor, on the PC, Conrail and NJT railroads.  Needles to say, I spent more than 2/3 of my life on trains - commuting on them, taking tickets or drilling them in Sunnyside Yard.  We Conductors (illegally) ran the LIRR MUs, in Penn Station, down to the block for turnaround and boarding of passengers.

Whenever I get back to Long Island to visit family, I take the train in and out of the city.

Ponz 

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Steamfan77 posted:

Paul, nice shot of that FA-1. Rich, good to see you went to the OB museum. I’m going there soon, and I’ll take some pictures. Ponz, I bet it brings back memories.

Andy

Andy,

Yes.  Good and bad. I quit the RR in 1987 after 13 years.  When St. Reagan cut the rear brake jobs my roster number took quite a big hit, then the Union lost power.

Ponz

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Steamfan77 posted:

Thanks Paul, the Oyster Bay RR Museum is in the process of restoring it and making it operational. I think part of the plan is also trying to convince the MTA to install a switch and lay track to the turntable. I’d kick in a few bucks to see that happen.

Andy

If #35 is ever going to run again on Long Island they will need the turntable to be operational. Wonder if that will ever happen, it sure didn't work out with #39.

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http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/doubledecker.htm

Rockville Centre :  The double decker is in Tuscan Red with Dulux lettering.  The cars in the distant background look like late 1940s.  Tichy color scheme began in November, 1949 and took several years for all the cars to be repainted.  

Since the transmission poles were on the north side at RVC and as they are visible in the photo, then we are looking northeast and the train is a westbound, early-morning train.  

That means that the temporary tracks, which were south of the original ROW, are NOT those tracks in the photo and the elevated camera angle was taken from somewhere else.  If these WERE the temporary tracks, then there would be signs of construction across the street where the original ROW would have been in the process of being torn up.  

This is not the case, so this is the original ROW and construction has not yet begun. . . . .. That would make the photo no later than the Winter of 1948-49 and the elimination construction has not yet begun. Al so, everyone is bundled up for the winter chill

The station and tracks were placed out of service in April, 1949 and temporary tracks and station facilities placed in service.  The elevated tracks and station were placed in service in July, 1950.
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#200 Riverhead, NY 08/26/2007

 

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Apples55 posted:

I must say, I was surprised when this pic showed up on my Facebook feed... I thought double-deckers were a much more recent addition to commuter fleets. The caption reads:

”LIRR MU Double-decker at Country Life Press, Mineola 1948“.

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LIRR had double-decker cars on the Babylon and Hempstead branches into the 1960s. These cars were my favorites. Used to ride them from New York Penn through Jamaica to Hempstead and Merrick. I remember them as being painted gray.

MELGAR

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Apples55 posted:

I must say, I was surprised when this pic showed up on my Facebook feed... I thought double-deckers were a much more recent addition to commuter fleets. The caption reads:

”LIRR MU Double-decker at Country Life Press, Mineola 1948“.

LIRR had double-decker cars on the Babylon and Hempstead branches into the 1960s. These cars were my favorites. Used to ride them from New York Penn through Jamaica to Hempstead and Merrick. I remember them as being painted gray.

MELGAR

Upper or lower berth???    

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NYandW posted:

http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/doubledecker.htm

Rockville Centre :  The double decker is in Tuscan Red with Dulux lettering.  The cars in the distant background look like late 1940s.  Tichy color scheme began in November, 1949 and took several years for all the cars to be repainted.  

Since the transmission poles were on the north side at RVC and as they are visible in the photo, then we are looking northeast and the train is a westbound, early-morning train.  

That means that the temporary tracks, which were south of the original ROW, are NOT those tracks in the photo and the elevated camera angle was taken from somewhere else.  If these WERE the temporary tracks, then there would be signs of construction across the street where the original ROW would have been in the process of being torn up.  

This is not the case, so this is the original ROW and construction has not yet begun. . . . .. That would make the photo no later than the Winter of 1948-49 and the elimination construction has not yet begun. Al so, everyone is bundled up for the winter chill

The station and tracks were placed out of service in April, 1949 and temporary tracks and station facilities placed in service.  The elevated tracks and station were placed in service in July, 1950.
Archive: Jim Gillin Photo: LIRR Research: Dave Keller


#200 Riverhead, NY 08/26/2007

 

Steve;

Thanks for the history lesson - one of my favorite aspects of this Forum is the willingness of so many to share knowledge. One question... what is the “Tichy color scheme”???

N NYandWOGR Forum Member

Hi Paul:  LIRR Tichy Paint Scheme 1949-1955

Tichy Logo

The Tichy herald  was applied only to the passenger diesels, not the passenger equipment. (November 1949) This herald consisted of a white map of Long Island on a light blue rectangle, offset with a black rectangle giving a shadow effect.  Printed over the map was a large black “plus sign” with the letters L, I, R, R in each corner of the “plus”; these represented the four corners of Long Island served by the Railroad.

On Engines:

1.Orange pilot
2. Light slate gray paint scheme with white numbers
3. LIRR map logo
4. Block lettering

More info here on my page: http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/tichy/tichy.htm

 

Best, Steve

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Hi Folks, I need help with the following photo:MU connections ID view
#1: The 27 point trainline jumper was used to control the locomotive from the cab control / power-pack unit.

#2 and #3: The other two jumpers were for the 650 VDC Head End Power system, a system design unique to LIRR. Does anyone know the size of the four individual conductors in LIRR’s positive power trainline? For comparison, Amtrak uses twelve 4/0 (four ought) conductors in their 480 VAC HEP trainline.

1. You can see there is a fourth jumper located between #2 and #3. What was the function of that fourth jumper?
2. Anyone with color shots of this type material?
3. A a photo that shows these trainline receptacles on the end of a push-pull car

 

Thank you. :-)

 

 

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Steamfan77 posted:

Thanks for the pic Paul. And thank you Steve for the additional pics and information. It’s great when people who have lived on the Island (or still do) relate their memories and experiences. 

Andy

Glad I could contribute, Andy, but true “lawn-guy-linders” would dispute that I EVER lived on Long Island... I was born and raised in Brooklyn which IS the western tip of the island. But, to be fair, we Brooklynites would vociferously deny we were from Long Island   

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Paul, weird how that worked out. Brooklyn and Queens are physically  on Long Island, but are part of the city. And you’re right, there would be an argument both ways. Funny how someone draws an invisible boundary, and it somehow makes things so different. Notice Long Islanders say they live “on” Long Island. Great pic of the G5s.

Andy

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I was born in Brooklyn and raised there and in Queens for my first 18 years (1942-1960). My family always said we were going "out to the island" whenever we went to visit relatives in Hicksville in Nassau County, as if Brooklyn and Queens were NOT already part of Long Island! HA! If they had said "further out", that would have made sense. LOL!

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Tinplate Art posted:

I was born in Brooklyn and raised there and in Queens for my first 18 years (1942-1960). My family always said we were going "out to the island" whenever we went to visit relatives in Hicksville in Nassau County, as if Brooklyn and Queens were NOT already part of Long Island! HA! If they had said "further out", that would have made sense. LOL!

It's the "magical" crossing over the Cross Island Parkway effect! 

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The founding fathers of the city included Queens and Brooklyn strictly  for a source of tax revenue.  Native Americans still inhabited Long Island. It all started with Hicksville',  little by little, towns developed to the east and became incorporated, as the natives disappeared ... Reminds me also of the Bronx.  In the early years of development, people, referred to the Bronx as going up state.  Any area outside Manhattan, was considered "Hicksville" Hicks, and hayseeds'............. 

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Scotie posted:

But the name Hicksville predates the use of the term "hick" or "hayseed"

From Google:

The name Hicksville recalls the Hicks family, who became local landowners, and more particularly a family member named Valentine Hicks who was a founder of the Long Island Rail Road. Tracks reached Hicksville by 1836.

Google'  and algorithms'... at play'...Even today,  many New York City residents, refer to the Island as the sticks'..... I would imagine, back in 1836, it was no different'...... 

My Mother's sister, Aunt Kay, married into the Hicks family in the 1930s.  They were also very big in the printing business in the city'..........

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Quarter Gauger 48 posted:
Scotie posted:

But the name Hicksville predates the use of the term "hick" or "hayseed"

From Google:

The name Hicksville recalls the Hicks family, who became local landowners, and more particularly a family member named Valentine Hicks who was a founder of the Long Island Rail Road. Tracks reached Hicksville by 1836.

Google'  and algorithms'... at play'...Even today,  many New York City residents, refer to the Island as the sticks'..... I would imagine, back in 1836, it was no different'...... 

My Mother's sister, Aunt Kay, married into the Hicks family in the 1930s.  They were also very big in the printing business in the city'..........

Just a lot more sticks in 1836.

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yankspride4 posted:

Shiny new M9’s spotted in the Ronkonkoma yard. I drop off my grass clippings up the street every week and I always go just a little out of my way to drive by.D5D26E0E-BCA7-4937-A952-2352351FB58E

Nice shot'.  WHat is the condition of the lake theses days?  Three was a restaurant in Ronkonkoma, my folks would drive to from Patchogue , to go to when I was about 7,or 8 .  I remember it being a nice little town, like most LI, towns 60 years ago'....

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I was born in the Bronx but we moved to Mineola when I was two. I’m a country boy ( to a person who actually lives in the country I’m a city slicker), always have been. The hair on the back of my neck stands up when I cross over the Queens border . Give me a couple of acres and some peace and quiet, and I’m good to go.

Andy

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Arthur posted:
MELGAR posted:

Andy,

My parents moved from New York City to East Meadow when I was eight years old. As a city boy, I thought I was moving to the country. Eventually, I fled to New England, again in search of the country.

MELGAR

Will now cost you at least a million to have a piece of the "country" that was once all of Long Island.

Yes, I remember it well. But I had good years on Long Island, especially working for Grumman.

MELGAR

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QUARTER GAUGER 48: I got my third chevron in 1964, less than two years into my enlistment in the US Army. I was assigned as battalion CBR NCO S2,3 Operations, 1st Battalion, 11th Infantry at Fort Carson, CO. Received the Army Commendation Medal for my service in 1965. The Battalion Major put me in for that award for designing a succesful program to reduce IG gigs on inspections regarding chemical gear. PS: I was offered an E-6 rank to re-up, but decided to go back to college instead! I gave Uncle three years and that was enough!

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Tinplate Art posted:

Ah, I remember riding by Morris Park on Atlantic Ave, and seeing those steamers all lined up near the coaling tower in the years 1950-52, just before the end of steam! We lived in Woodhaven at that time, and I was eight-years old in 1950.

Art,

We lived in Astoria during those years - near Woodhaven. Was there a train store in the area?

MELGAR

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MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

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Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. that carried Lionel and I hot my ZW and gantry crane from there.

Art,

Thank you very much for the answer. I remember my father taking me to a Lionel train store in the Woodhaven area and simply would like to find and visit the location. It has remained in my memory for a long time.

MELGAR

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MELGAR posted:
Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. that carried Lionel and I hot my ZW and gantry crane from there.

Art,

Thank you very much for the answer. I remember my father taking me to a Lionel train store in the Woodhaven area and simply would like to find and visit the location. It has remained in my memory for a long time.

MELGAR

Melgar,

The location remains but the Manor store has ben gone for many years.

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Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Visited Manor a good many times. My Grandparents lived in Woodhaven on Park Lane South, I lived on 107 St. in Richmond Hill. My vivid memory of Manor was going with my Father when he said it was time to add another locomotive. Asked the salesman for a GG1, "sorry son but we no longer have them but how about a New Haven electric", so I got an NH EP5. (My father also took me to the Lionel Showroom every Christmas time).

Tex Foster's ! Been decades since I heard that name; on about 104 ST. & Jamaica Ave. I remember it as being a some what "fine scale" model store, remember looking at the HO track ballasted roadbed he had set up and thinking, that looks cool.   

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Arthur posted:
Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Tinplate Art posted:

MELGAR: Manor Toys and Hobbies on Jamaica Ave. near Woodhaven Blvd. (probably named after the LIRR Brooklyn Manor depot near by) was a major Lionel and Flyer dealer. There was also a hobby shop further east on Jamaica Ave. named Tex Foster's, who carried a little Flyer and Lionel. And then another toy store further west on Jamaica Ave. from Woodhaven Blvd. that carried Lionel from which I got my ZW and gantry crane. Cannot recall the name.

Visited Manor a good many times. My Grandparents lived in Woodhaven on Park Lane South, I lived on 107 St. in Richmond Hill. My vivid memory of Manor was going with my Father when he said it was time to add another locomotive. Asked the salesman for a GG1, "sorry son but we no longer have them but how about a New Haven electric", so I got an NH EP5. (My father also took me to the Lionel Showroom every Christmas time).

Tex Foster's ! Been decades since I heard that name; on about 104 ST. & Jamaica Ave. I remember it as being a some what "fine scale" model store, remember looking at the HO track ballasted roadbed he had set up and thinking, that looks cool.   

Does anyone remember the train store in Grand Central, or was it Penn Central, that had on display on shelves  at the tops of the glass windows that you could see standing outside, every type of beautiful Brass steam locomotives.  

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