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John,

We can agree to disagree. It's not about the price - It is about the overall quality, not just the visual aspects. 

You are more qualified than most, willing to invest the time and effort to make the changes and modifications. Not everyone is willing too or wants to do that.

You also made my case with the last comment -  " would be a bit more upset had I paid Lionel, Atlas, or MTH prices for these hoppers and had similar issues, but I didn't, I paid $99.99 for six of them".

It is unacceptable for any manufacturer to deliver poor performing products. If they don't perform or are damaged I return them, many times for a replacement or alternative but this thread is more than just a few minor adjustments.

I was just asking cause this post started as one persons simple review of some cars he received. If you go back and read from the start, you will see that everyone that has posted here has said why they like or dislike what they got. The ones who didn't like them and contacted Menards was very well taken care of. The ones who liked what they got stated so and what they were willing to fix them self. As it was said earlier You get what You pay for. It seams most people are willing to deal with what they receive in there own special way.

This wasn't a post to lecture the rest of us on how we deal with what we buy.

just my thoughts.

PUFFRBELLY posted:

Just printed out a FEDEX Return Shipping Label provided by Menards.   It will be on it's way back to Menards tomorrow & a replacement hopper will be sent to me (No Charge).  For the money, these are nice cars!  Just sayin'  Chief Bob (Retired)

How will any replacement hopper be any different, though?   It appears from Mark's posts, that the designs remain the same for now.  

Regarding picking on some manufacturers and going easy on others.  I think the common thread here is that Menards has been doing this for  a relatively short time. They have a decent product favorably priced. Most of us want to see them succeed; I know I do. How many other manufacturers follow these threads AND respond. I've not seen any. A little attention to customers goes along way.  And, how many times has Menards missed a delivery date? Again, none to my knowledge (granted they do have a different business model than most).

Steve

Steve, I couldn't find a metal plate that was an exact fit.  I don't fancy making plates, though it wouldn't be hard if you had the right tools to punsh and to bend them.  I think many of the issues would be solved with a metal truck mounting plate.

I straightened a couple of the other lopsided ones with some heat on the mounting plate and holding it in alignment while it cooled.  We'll see if that's a permanent fix for them...

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

Got the remaining two cars from Menard's, my fleet is complete.  Ran them around for about half an hour, no issues after a few tweaks and trimming the steps.

gunrunner,

I'm glad to hear that! Thank you for your help and all the notes you provided. We sincerely appreciate it!

-Mark The Menards Train Guy

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