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Some random thoughts on Peter's post as I digest the Christmas dinner:

1) Don't we love the response of the children watching the trains?  Almost more fascinating than watching the trains.

2) Who knew (not me) that Weaver made a Pocahontas passenger car?  If I ever buy any  I need to replace the couplers for sure.

3) I visited Richmond several weeks ago and had to go by the River city 3 railers layout.  Here are some shots I took  to let the OGR forum members see the variety of scenes.  Nice work- I plan to steal a few ideas!



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Thanks, Pat......

Pat, George......we started in 2009......4 guys......except for Gilly and Kanawha (who knew each other from work), we were all strangers to each other except for our love of the hobby........we built 12 modules.....4 corners and 8 straights and put together a 12x18, our members number in the mid 20s, and the layout is approximately 20x42.......and we have a "small venue" layout of's been a great ride!


Peter, You posted so many photographs my computer really sagged in ability to show them all!!    I greatly appreciate all the photographs!  Looks like another great setup at the Big Greenhouse.  Back in the '70s when I was working for Vepco in Richmond there was hardly anything out at Midlothian!

What a great group you have!!!  Looks like some kids were enjoying the layout.  That's great!  So it looks like you have a yard in the center, then I guess a wye track arrangement to get trains onto and off the big loop!  The bridge scenes are my favorite, but all the modeling is top notch!!  Great work everyone!!!

Done for the year at the Great Big GreenHouse.......a sad day when we took down on January 21.....a few shots from our last 2 weekends.....check out the great crowd on the last day which was "Kids Day in the Garden" an annual kids event.....over 1000 kids and their families.....


our "homemade" Schnabel Car.....


Gilly@N&W packing the trailer......


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Once again, the River City 3-Railers have done a fabulous job for their community and the hobby.

Have to say, as a Brooklyn “ex-pat”, I loved seeing the New York & Atlantic delivering some new cars for the NYC Subway. And it that weren’t good enough, I caught some nice New Haven steam/passenger action in couple of shots... wonder who was responsible for that???

Keep up the great work!!!

Apples55 posted:


Once again, the River City 3-Railers have done a fabulous job for their community and the hobby.

Have to say, as a Brooklyn “ex-pat”, I loved seeing the New York & Atlantic delivering some new cars for the NYC Subway. And it that weren’t good enough, I caught some nice New Haven steam/passenger action in couple of shots... wonder who was responsible for that???

Keep up the great work!!!

Thanks for the kind words......... You certainly guessed right....the New Haven is mine......I had yo use an MTH RailKing NH Hudson....My K Line Collector's Club EP-5 is suffering from "Cruise issues". It basically sputters......I think in needs to go to the hospital....


RSJB18 posted:

You guys do great work. Very dedicated bunch! Congrats! If I may ask- how do you fund this operation? I'm sure it's not cheap to keep this going.

Send some pancakes up north next week


Thanks, Bob......

Our dues are modest......$84 a year....

$60 for the River City 3 Railers.

$24 for the RF&P, our parent organization.....the Richmond Freelance & Prototype Railroaders......a group of N, HO and O interest groups that is our legal entity that holds our liability insurance.

We hold a raffle every year......we raffle off 2 sets and a 3rd prize $100 gift certificate to Tiny Tim's Trains......1st price is the set of their choice with a ~4x5 layout scenic with refurbished Plasticville-type buildings.....the 2nd prize is the remaining complete set.

We sell about 2000 tickets and get about $1500+ in donations.

We have been able to purchase 2 is 24' for the big (20x42) layout....the other is 14' for the 12x15 layout. We have enough to cover their rent (parking spots) , tags and insurance.

We have done well. We have been able to finance a lot of "group" upgrades to the layout......the trains(for the great majority) and module scenery are all personal to each member.

Some of the trains were donations......we use them as "group" trains.

The modules are personally owned and want a module.....we pair it with another member to keep it equal, you pay for the materials, and the group builds it to our group standard.....then you take it home and decorate it.....this is a process that has evolved over the 10 years we have been in existence.......

BTW.....I am planning to chair a seminar on setting up and running a modular group. I had planned to have leaders of successful modular groups come and talk on how they got it done. I had hoped to get it together for April York.....but, I really need to firm up the place. I have the Gold Hall, if I want it, before the Thursday York opening.....but I really need to inspect the venue 1st before I ask people to commit (if I had the Orange Hall conference room, I'd be OK with going ahead with April).


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Bob, Great question!  Oh yes, request for pancakes is another great question!  

Peter, That sounds like a great plan, and you have shown us photographs of the raffle layout builds, train sets, etc.

 I think that seminar of setting up and operating a modular group is an excellent idea!!  Pooling Information from several groups have done is admirable.  You aren’t saying what the River City Group does is the final word!  Different scenarios would work for different groups in different locales.  Great idea!  I hope you can get it to happen!!

Thanks for the response Peter. For those of us not involved in clubs I'm sure this is helpful. Obviously your overhead is much lower than a club in a fixed location (rent, utilities, etc). I hadn't considered that each member owned and built their own modules. I assumed that everything was owned by the club.

One more question (sorry)- do you pay fees for the use of the locations you show at?

Thanks again----

PS- I like banana or blueberry   

I met a few of these gentlemen a few months ago when they were at the science museum.  I joined the club and ran trains with most of them during the greenhouse display weeks.  Their craftsmanship and artistic abilities are amazing.  But best of all:  This is simply a wonderful group of truly, good men!  It's been a joy to hang out with, and get to know these gentlemen.  

Dog Gone It!!  I missed The Event of The Year once again!!!  What a great turnout you folks had!!  Look at that handsome Mianne Benchwork!!  Oh, there are trains running on it too!  I almost didn't notice because of that nice benchwork!! 

I have to hand it to Mrs. C.!  Mrs. B. would pass out if that many folks showed up at out house!  Of course that many folks would pass out from the close quarters in our house!  

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