Thanks for the direct link.

No much interest there for me. I did like the Wabash caboose and the Shell tank car though.

My list:

• Amtrak AEM-7 915
• CSX ES44DC
• Strasburg 44-tonner
• NYC P-2 Lightning Stripe 228
• Illinois Central Gulf GP38-2
• Canadian Pacific Boxcar with LEDs
• RBMN Full Dome Car
• RBMN Observation car
• RBMN Coach
• Pullman Hickory Run
• Philadelphia & Reading Observation
• Amtrak Phase 4B 2-pack
• Conrail Police Training Coach

JohnB posted:

Interesting that MTH is now using Solido die cast Military vehicles on their flat cars. They list them as 1/43 scale however I do have quite a few Solido Sherman's on my military train and they look closer to 1/48 than 1/43 as they are only slightly larger than a 1/50 Corgi Sherman. The ambulances and any other wheeled military vehicle by Solido are definitely 1/43. MTH used to use Hobby Master die cast Sherman tanks which have more detail than a Solido Sherman but the Solido Sherman is still a nice tank (Can you tell I love Sherman Tanks) . Too bad I currently have excess Sherman's, Priests, 2 1/2 Trucks and a Pershing waiting for flatcars. I did order a six pack of 50 ft flats (Lionscale) which should take car of that problem.

I am glad to see MTH back making Military flatcars.

BIGTRUCKPETE,

   If all you want is a Sherman to put in front of your VFW either order the Rail King Flat car that is $20 cheaper than the Premiere Flatcar. You will only get one Sherman but that is all you will need to guard a VFW. Or go on Ebay do a search for Solido die cast, you should find one for $10.

JohnB    

It would be great if they sold the flatcars as a separate sale item as like you, I already have a more tanks than I need.      I still may order a 4 pack of them though.   I really like the US Army Pacific and is definitely in the running for spending my limited budget on.  

- Greg

Goshawk posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

SAY WHAAAAAT?

Rusty

I looked this up and I'm sure Hot Water can give us more info, but I found on the Train Orders website that this was done during a lease time by the UP in 2007. Sorry my details are sketchy. 

Well, I did find a picture:

Looks like UPY 845 was a catch-all for former SP movements:

Rusty

I'm tempted to purchase the Chicago L cars in Mercury Green.. Will look nice with my Electroliners.

Now I have to come up with a plan for a short "EL" stub on my future layout.

What I would really like to see is these cars set up with Skokie Swift "pans" & a latter day paint scheme.

Ken

Goshawk posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

SAY WHAAAAAT?

Rusty

I looked this up and I'm sure Hot Water can give us more info, but I found on the Train Orders website that this was done during a lease time by the UP in 2007. Sorry my details are sketchy. 

I know what this is. UP 844 came out to the Pac NW in 2007, and double-headed with 4449 all the way past Everett, WA from Portland in some fan trips over several days. When the locomotive came together at Portland, the UP crew had that magnetic sign for "UP 845" made for the cab of 4449. It lasted less than a few minutes and was clearly removed before the train started its northbound run to Tacoma that day.

You can see how long it was used for here, starting at 13:40-

I'd wondered whatever happened to it. Good to know it got recycled.

p51 posted:

Goshawk posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

SAY WHAAAAAT?

Rusty

I looked this up and I'm sure Hot Water can give us more info, but I found on the Train Orders website that this was done during a lease time by the UP in 2007. Sorry my details are sketchy. 

I know what this is. UP 844 came out to the Pac NW in 2007, and double-headed with 4449 all the way past Everett, WA from Portland in some fan trips over several days. When the locomotive came together at Portland, the UP crew had that magnetic sign for "UP 845" made for the cab of 4449. It lasted less than a few minutes. I'd wondered whatever happened to it, as other photos show it got recycled.

That would explain why there's practically no pictures.  Looks like the MTH model is an expensive model of joke, then.

Plus, isn't the "Y" suffix for yard locomotives?

Rusty

Well not disappointed at all, since meeting and talking to Mike W. here at the NS Heritage Event, knew better.

Sure would have been nice if they tooled for a Premier NS Buena Vista.  The same tooling would made a very respectable UP Fox River too.

But see the Rail King fans can now order a UP "Flag" baggage car which to good.

They offer a MARC Rail AEM-7 "toaster" but no cars.   Why not offer a set of smoothside coaches in MARC colors? They would be closer to the prototype than the fantasy Amfleet cars previously made.  In fact, use the sleeping car tooling which has the spacing of the windows more similar to the ex Pennsy 21 room cars which later became MARC commuter coaches.

I have always suggested that MTH offer a set of smoothside MARC cars.  Now another locomotive, no cars!  These disjointed product offerings only hurt MTH sales.  I am still seeking an answer as to why MTH offered in 1970s pre Amtrak "auto-train" car carriers only , and no passenger set?  Wouldnt a better business plan include offering the entire set?   

  Columbia MARYLAND is so close to MARC Rails operating area that no one ever thought of offering a set of the smoothside coaches that plied the rails nearby?

;-)

I am unable to download it as a pdf.  Get a file corrupted message.

I like the Long Island FA's but wouldn't it have been smarter (and more accurate) to have the passenger cars be all coaches?

p51 posted:

Goshawk posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

SAY WHAAAAAT?

Rusty

I looked this up and I'm sure Hot Water can give us more info, but I found on the Train Orders website that this was done during a lease time by the UP in 2007. Sorry my details are sketchy. 

I know what this is. UP 844 came out to the Pac NW in 2007, and double-headed with 4449 all the way past Everett, WA from Portland in some fan trips over several days. When the locomotive came together at Portland, the UP crew had that magnetic sign for "UP 845" made for the cab of 4449. It lasted less than a few minutes and was clearly removed before the train started its northbound run to Tacoma that day.

You can see how long it was used for here, starting at 13:40-

The "UP 845Y" magnetic sign was carried from that location in the video to the station stop in Vancouver, WA, where it was removed.

I'd wondered whatever happened to it. Good to know it got recycled.

I think the magnetic signs was returned to Steve Lee. However, there were other "fun events" while on display at Fife Yard in Tacoma, plus in the return trip back to Portland.

Gotta go with the small lettering 4449 w/ Christmas lights.   

Like the lightning stripe P2, the flatcars with tanks and the Harlem transfer box cab

Hot Water posted:

I think the magnetic signs was returned to Steve Lee. However, there were other "fun events" while on display at Fife Yard in Tacoma, plus in the return trip back to Portland. 

The funniest thing was the 4449 crew (or someone they knew, anyway), made a giant "Southern Pacific" road name for 844's tender, in the UP's typeface if memory serves. I happened to be at the Fife yard the morning after it was placed on the tender (I assume it was done at night) and caught it before the UP crew got there to remove it. The 4449 crew was there, laughing at it and taking photos. I have a photo of it somewhere but don't recall where it is.

I tried looking online but couldn't find anything showing it. But I saw it, all right!

As for the 845 sign being removed at Vancouver, I have a photo someone took just before the Columbia River bridge and it's missing from Doyle's side. Either it was removed before then or the guy is very skilled at photoshop (could be either, n all fairness).

The two SOO LINE GP9 diesel engine locos are what I have been waiting for someone to mass produce. 

I would like to get the Grand Trunk Western F3 A units powered and the non-powered A unit. 

The Canadian National SuperTherm refrigerator cars are what I need for the GTW trains. 

I like the Safety-Kleen scheme on tank cars. 

Perhaps the United Petroleum Gas 33K tank car. 

The RailKing Norfolk and Western auto carrier on flat car is one I have to get. 

Andrew

NYO&W 44 Tonners in Maroon!!!

MTH: One request, please! Please change the engine numbered 102 to 103. Save 105 from the next time you make the orange bib version. I think you will sell more.

Chris

LVHR

I definitely am going to preorder the Railking Penn Central RSD-5 locomotive and am thinking about the Railking R62 Subway set and the Premier Line Amtrak(Wave) Dash8-40BW Diesel Engine. I found this catalog to be pretty good.

No tinplate club cars? Still waiting on my 2016 MTHRRC caboose that was supposed to ship last june.

The four Premier 40' box cars are an appealing mix. 

I like the Landmark PLTX scheme, but it is on a much smaller PS-2-CD 4427 Cu Ft 3-bay covered hopper. 

The Canada and Saskatchewan 100-ton cylindrical hoppers could be a choice. 

Andrew

YEESH. What is this nonsense on 1225? 

I realize we call the Christmas trips with 1225 "North Pole Express" but cmon I really want an O-27 (okay O-31) model of 1225 that isn't polar express related. 

Boilermaker1 posted:

Ok, this is annoying. They just delivered amfleets without the chrome finish, and now they catalog chrome ones... I mean, just pick a finish and stick with it.

There's 2 things in there that are calling my name. I dont think its a bad catalog, but it isnt a great one either.

The lit up GS4 is neat. Doesnt float my boat, but I can see that doing alright.

Justin, buy the chrome, then hit them with a clear flat add a little weather if you like ( prior to adding clear coat) and it will look like the ones running in the NEC and Union station DC. Seen them when I had to go into the district.

John

I have to admit this is a good catalog for me, like the B&O 44T, the Amtrak Toaster,  and the Amtrak 8-40BW, the B&O Boxcab, and about a dozen cars but most of all the N&W class A 2-6-6-4. Now I need to buy wisely being retired now, I guess I could sell off some of the stable and cars again.  Now what priority do I put the new MTH colors? N&W 1218 then what.... #2 is the Amtrak toaster, I like ugly.

Chicago Great Western F3 and passenger cars.  Wonder if there will be enough orders to make them happen.

lehighline posted:

NYO&W 44 Tonners in Maroon!!!

MTH: One request, please! Please change the engine numbered 102 to 103. Save 105 from the next time you make the orange bib version. I think you will sell more.

Chris

LVHR

Yes!!! 100% Agree. Although I can see some reasoning in having the same number side by side for display, having four different cab numbers would be much better for operators and those filling rosters.

very poor catalog for 2-railers, mostly reruns. I have the impression that the offering of 2 rail locomotives is diminishing by the year?

This catalog wasn't very interesting for me.  I'm a modern diesel railroader.  The ES44DC's aren't interesting and the road numbers of NS in the catalog are actually ES40DC's.  I was hoping for ET44AC's and a rerun of the NASA solid rocket motor transport set. 

Surprised they did pm 1225 in north pole. Hope there is no legal battle pending based on how close it is to the polar x. Is the steam institute in mi not allowed to use polar express on the real on for christmas trips? Ive seen it in north pole livery for real i think and surprised they cant use polar x. In any case i dont see anything in the catalog for me. How about an Arcade and Attica 44 ton !

MEH

Lionel is getting better and better at putting whistle steam on lots of steam engines - mostly Legacy, I realize, but it's not exclusive to one or two engines per catalogue.  I haven't done a careful survey but it seems like MTH put whistle steam in the restoration Big Boys and that's more or less it (not in the Class A, not in the Cab Forward, not in the Crescent Limited...).  Does anybody know why MTH doesn't seem to use whistle steam very much?

The Army caboose is nice but I just made my own. Who knew.

A surprise to me is the 36 foot Hummel/New Haven car. I have two at my club but they were made years ago by a local person who contracted to have them made. He still sells them at train shows.

Greg Houser posted:

JohnB posted:

Interesting that MTH is now using Solido die cast Military vehicles on their flat cars. They list them as 1/43 scale however I do have quite a few Solido Sherman's on my military train and they look closer to 1/48 than 1/43 as they are only slightly larger than a 1/50 Corgi Sherman. The ambulances and any other wheeled military vehicle by Solido are definitely 1/43. MTH used to use Hobby Master die cast Sherman tanks which have more detail than a Solido Sherman but the Solido Sherman is still a nice tank (Can you tell I love Sherman Tanks) . Too bad I currently have excess Sherman's, Priests, 2 1/2 Trucks and a Pershing waiting for flatcars. I did order a six pack of 50 ft flats (Lionscale) which should take car of that problem.

I am glad to see MTH back making Military flatcars.

BIGTRUCKPETE,

   If all you want is a Sherman to put in front of your VFW either order the Rail King Flat car that is $20 cheaper than the Premiere Flatcar. You will only get one Sherman but that is all you will need to guard a VFW. Or go on Ebay do a search for Solido die cast, you should find one for $10.

JohnB    

It would be great if they sold the flatcars as a separate sale item as like you, I already have a more tanks than I need.      I still may order a 4 pack of them though.   I really like the US Army Pacific and is definitely in the running for spending my limited budget on.  

- Greg

 

Greg,

      I preordered the Lionscale set of 6 Pennsy Flatcars. Although the description in the Lionel catalog said Southern the picture was Pennsy so I emailed Dave Olson and he confirmed that they were indeed Pennsy. The price of the 6 pack came to a little more than $30 per flatcar so I thought that was pretty good. Also they have nothing on them so all my military stuff will find a home. The only bad thing about MTH flatcars is they all use the same tank with the same numbers on the tank. Not a big issue.

JohnB  

Maybe a Strasburg 44 Tonner and hopefully he will offer the Ingersoll Rand Box Cab again  in Reading next year.

After years, MTH has re-issued the AGEIR box cabs. Unfortunately for me, the IR Demonstrator and the CNW in yellow (missing the green stripes, though) are both being offered. Decisions, decisions.

Chicago CTA L cars for me!

If I heard right those Christmas light GS-4's will be here shortly and only 150 made  

BigMike88 posted:

This catalog wasn't very interesting for me.  I'm a modern diesel railroader.  The ES44DC's aren't interesting and the road numbers of NS in the catalog are actually ES40DC's.  I was hoping for ET44AC's and a rerun of the NASA solid rocket motor transport set. 

NS has been upgrading them from 4000 hp to 4400 hp, and reclassing them as an ES44DC.

Bill

The General Electric ES44DC and ES44AC are so similar, how do you tell them apart? 

Andrew

Look at the label on the box

AGHRMatt posted:

After years, MTH has re-issued the AGEIR box cabs. Unfortunately for me, the IR Demonstrator and the CNW in yellow (missing the green stripes, though) are both being offered. Decisions, decisions.

Buy both you old miser, you know you want to. They are small,  Peg would not notice them. 

bluelinec4 posted:

I'm spending alot out of this one  Lackawanna 44 tonner, Harlem transfer box cab, Jersey central rsd 5 , Class A, Triplex 

 etc etc etc

I just might buy that 44 ton #53 and HT#2.....