Dave Olson posted:

The newest Big Boy will come with either the Big Boy tender or the Challenger tender depending on sku. The Big Boy tender already has a wide roller spacing, so it doesn't have the issue on the Atlas #5 switch. I've now had the Challenger design revised to open the roller spacing so it won't have this issue when the Big Boy ships.

 

First, let me say I appreciate Lionel considering making a change to the roller spacing.  In regards to the different tenders, let me preface my remarks by saying I am NOT an expert on steam tenders.  As I read the data shown on UtahRails, the tender that went with UP 4014 to CA was apparently the tender that originally belong to UP 4015.  It was a Class 25-C tender.  From thetable on the website, it seems that the late model coal and oil burning Challengers used the same class of tender.  UP 844's tender looks to be a Class 23-C (oil).  The numbers seem to be water capacity in 1000's of gallons.  If their data is correct, maybe there was a Big Boy/late model Challenger tender and an FEF-3 tender.  The tender Lionel produced with the last run of FEF-3 has a wide roller spacing and looks like the tender pictured in the Vol2 catalog art for the excursion model.  However, maybe Lionel only needs the same class 25-C tender (oil) for both versions of the Big Boy. Of course, since 4014's tender hasn't been converted to oil it is hard to know what it will eventually look like.  Hopefully, people on this forum who know more about steam engines can correct any information I found on UtahRails.

Thanks again for thinking about changes in the roller spacings.

 

John Cullen

Dave Olson posted:

The newest Big Boy will come with either the Big Boy tender or the Challenger tender depending on sku. The Big Boy tender already has a wide roller spacing, so it doesn't have the issue on the Atlas #5 switch. I've now had the Challenger design revised to open the roller spacing so it won't have this issue when the Big Boy ships.

Thanks for pointing this out. As mentioned here previously, we cannot design for every other manufacturer's track system, but I will always be open to these comments so that designs are modified to try to keep everyone happy. 

Now this is great and how should be when something is wrong. Honest open and stating outright the problem will be fixed and making sure everyone knows. Cudos on Lionel on this.

Shawn Chronister

Gunrunner John,

I just ordered four of the 10500 original Battery Clip YLB Batteries with the 9-volt battery clip.  I opened my 6-11210 1st run Vision Line Challenger tender and discovered it had the 9-volt clip, but on a different style plug than the 10510 new YLB Batteries I bought.  Murphy's Law got me again.

It looks I will have to buy a supply of both the 10500 and 10510 as I put the YLB Battery in all of my steam engines.  I bought three 10500 a while back, but they are buried somewhere in my "VERTCAL PILING SYSTEM".  I am digging through the piles, but the ones I ordered today will probably arrive before I find those that are buried.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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