July 22??  We (LHS) got our cases of the new catalogs yesterday.  Stacked on the front counter.   

Had a good local laugh over one selection.  Our first trains customer for the day was looking for some WBB non-aluminum passenger cars in SP's Daylight colors to go behind his new WBB Daylight steamer.  He had been trying to pull a complete train of Lionel aluminum passenger cars so decorated.  Claimed the engine hardly had enough moxie to pull three!  (???).

Anyhow, when we were leafing through the new catalog we came across Lionel's new offering of the single-truck camp cars.........you guessed it!.....in SP's Daylight colors.   Yep.....Just what the customer will need....sleepers, coaches, diner,.......why, I'll bet his WBB 4-8-4 can pull a couple dozen of those cuties!!

And that new Santa Fe 'Blue Moose'?.....a 3751 painted in 'Goose Blue and Silver'!?!?!?  Holy Moly!

And LOTS of BTO's........the new norm.

All in all.....

thumbs up

 

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dkdkrd posted:

July 22??  We (LHS) got our cases of the new catalogs yesterday.  Stacked on the front counter.   

Had a good local laugh over one selection.  Our first trains customer for the day was looking for some WBB non-aluminum passenger cars in SP's Daylight colors to go behind his new WBB Daylight steamer.  He had been trying to pull a complete train of Lionel aluminum passenger cars so decorated.  Claimed the engine hardly had enough moxie to pull three!  (???).

Anyhow, when we were leafing through the new catalog we came across Lionel's new offering of the single-truck camp cars.........you guessed it!.....in SP's Daylight colors.   Yep.....Just what the customer will need....sleepers, coaches, diner,.......why, I'll bet his WBB 4-8-4 can pull a couple dozen of those cuties!!

And that new Santa Fe 'Blue Moose'?.....a 3751 painted in 'Goose Blue and Silver'!?!?!?  Holy Moly!

And LOTS of BTO's........the new norm.

All in all.....

thumbs up

 

Great picture! If I was doing marketing for Lionel, I would make that child the poster boy.

In my little world, I leave this troubled world behind.

johnstrains posted:

They'll sell a ton of GG1s. That was one of top responses to several threads polling interest in what Lionel should make in the Lion Chief Plus line.

I'm sure they will. I'm just not sure if I want to spend 500 on one. I could buy a lot of post-war goodies with that money.

If one of the big guys has it marked down enough I will probably spring for one though.

So far, nothing for me. I need to see the whole catalog. Steam engines and GG-1's are auto-fail as are first generation diesels from eastern roads. I've gotten very particular in my old age.

N&WGuy posted:

Here’s an EBay link with some more pictures. So far the only thing I’m interested in getting is the First Run Edition of the 4014. Looking forward to see what the rest of the catalog has!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lione...4:g:HtkAAOSw1wZdHNvl

Some bizarre steam. I do seem to see 2 Frisco 4-8-4's - repainted ATSF 3751 and classmates - which is interesting, in a way. Has not MTH offered Frisco 4-8-4's based on their tooling of the (larger) 2900-class ATSF 4-8-4's?

Now Friscoites (I'm one, minor league) can collect 'em all! 

Trainlover9943 posted:
Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Let's see this blue goose! 

AB5B32EF-A8BF-4468-8F14-244E3687EC1EHere it is! I don’t know how I feel about it.

I like it! They have matching passenger cars for it?

Just the normal Pullman green with the California Limited drumhead.

Peter Araujo posted:
Jon C posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Could you post pictures of the George Bush Funeral train and other UP passenger cars?

299D547D-9140-4511-BE3D-FBA7E0B870A6They also offered more Challenger and Excursion cars.

Could you post those add-ons too? I hope Art Lockman and Howard Fogg are part of them.

Would like to see the other add-on cars and other SD70ACes as well.

vash44 posted:
Peter Araujo posted:
Jon C posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Could you post pictures of the George Bush Funeral train and other UP passenger cars?

299D547D-9140-4511-BE3D-FBA7E0B870A6They also offered more Challenger and Excursion cars.

Could you post those add-ons too? I hope Art Lockman and Howard Fogg are part of them.

Would like to see the other add-on cars and other SD70ACes as well.

Me too. Even the heavyweights too.

Peter Araujo posted:

I also hope with these new Vision Line Big Boys, the price tags on the 2014 version will go down on eBay.

I don't think there vision, I think there just standard O ones with the road specific crew talk. They're reusing some of the numbers from the vision run which more than likely is why they have road specific crew talk since they have the files already. 

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
das boot posted:
Doug N posted:

How about a Legacy NKP switcher?

Yes, an ALCO S-4, NICKEL PLATE #79

enjoy your trains...

 

 

How about Long Island railroad?

No Long Island, some of the more unique S-2 road names  would be Ford, Youngstown Sheet, Portland Terminal,  Morristown and Erie, to name a few...

enjoy your trains...

 

 

das boot posted:
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
das boot posted:
Doug N posted:

How about a Legacy NKP switcher?

Yes, an ALCO S-4, NICKEL PLATE #79

enjoy your trains...

 

 

How about Long Island railroad?

No Long Island, some of the more unique S-2 road names  would be Ford, Youngstown Sheet, Portland Terminal,  Morristown and Erie, to name a few...

enjoy your trains...

 

 

I saw those. The Youngstown sheet definitely got my attention

Well, I am one of the few conventional runners left, so motive power is pretty much a dead issue for me any more. Even. LC+ is more than I need and you pay a price for the extra features. 

I will need to stick to occasional rolling stock in the new catalogs, I guess. They stopped making the postwar style 15” aluminum passenger cars, too.  I have plenty of those from past issues, of course, so no complaints  

As with many other things, time is quickly leaving me behind when it comes to model railroading. Give me my postwar.

 

Ted S posted:

@Dj'sOgaugetrains I'm pretty sure the I-12 is a bay-window caboose based on a B&O prototype, not a steam locomotive.  They've been made before.  You might be confusing it with the I10 designation for a PRR Decapod (which have also been made before ;-)

Ah cool. It’s mentioned in the very first post in this thread. I thought it was a small steamer. But yeah now I remember the Lionel caboose. I had one years ago. Thanks!

Jon C posted:
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

I'm dying to see those Union Pacific add-on passenger cars.

Me too. 

C2EA8F04-A71B-40F9-86A2-62F38F26B49AI can also neither confirm nor deny that they offered 9096😉

I have not seen the hard copy catalog yet so I must be missing something in the feature sets of the various add-on cars. Otherwise I can't see why single dome cars have a MSRP of $329 and two car expansion sets on the same pages, each including a dome car, have a MSRP of $359. What gives?

Hancock52 posted:
Jon C posted:
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

I'm dying to see those Union Pacific add-on passenger cars.

Me too. 

C2EA8F04-A71B-40F9-86A2-62F38F26B49AI can also neither confirm nor deny that they offered 9096😉

I have not seen the hard copy catalog yet so I must be missing something in the feature sets of the various add-on cars. Otherwise I can't see why single dome cars have a MSRP of $329 and two car expansion sets on the same pages, each including a dome car, have a MSRP of $359. What gives?

"What gives?"

WI-FI video cameras are installed in the "vistavision" dome cars.

enjoy your trains...

 

 

Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Let's see this blue goose! 

AB5B32EF-A8BF-4468-8F14-244E3687EC1EHere it is! I don’t know how I feel about it.

Another fantasy paint scheme? I took to reading what I could there and it says was to be shrouded like the Hudson but never happened. Couldn't see about the paint scheme completely, but it sounds like it never happened either.

I like that they brought this back, can't wait. I'm also wondering what else the catalog will have in store besides the big boy and the Santa Fe's?

Trainlover9943 posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Yeah, like 

N&WGuy posted:

Can anyone post more catalog pics?

Yeah, like SD70ACEs and more rolling stock.

And OCS unit. 

I’m assuming these are the UP OCS and not the NS OCS or KCS OCS?

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NS6770Fan posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Yeah, like 

N&WGuy posted:

Can anyone post more catalog pics?

Yeah, like SD70ACEs and more rolling stock.

And OCS unit. 

I’m assuming these are the UP OCS and not the NS OCS or KCS OCS?

They are Norfolk Southern. The UP cars for the Funeral Train and Excursion Cars, many are used in their Business train as well but the one cataloged OCS are NS.

Pete

Norton posted:
NS6770Fan posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Yeah, like 

N&WGuy posted:

Can anyone post more catalog pics?

Yeah, like SD70ACEs and more rolling stock.

And OCS unit. 

I’m assuming these are the UP OCS and not the NS OCS or KCS OCS?

They are Norfolk Southern. The UP cars for the Funeral Train and Excursion Cars, many are used in their Business train as well but the one cataloged OCS are NS.

Pete

Can someone post pictures of these? Do they have the ditchlights?

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NS6770Fan posted:
Norton posted:
NS6770Fan posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Yeah, like 

N&WGuy posted:

Can anyone post more catalog pics?

Yeah, like SD70ACEs and more rolling stock.

And OCS unit. 

I’m assuming these are the UP OCS and not the NS OCS or KCS OCS?

They are Norfolk Southern. The UP cars for the Funeral Train and Excursion Cars, many are used in their Business train as well but the one cataloged OCS are NS.

Pete

Can someone post pictures of these? Do they have the ditchlights?

They have the ditch lights and a new tooling for the HEP on the roof.

Ted S posted:

@Dj'sOgaugetrains I'm pretty sure the I-12 is a bay-window caboose based on a B&O prototype, not a steam locomotive.  They've been made before.  You might be confusing it with the I10 designation for a PRR Decapod (which have also been made before ;-)

The I-12 wagontop B&O caboose would likely sell pretty well, as they seem to go for a premium on eBay.  I have one already, and think its a well made model.

Jim

Formerly Historic Frederick County, Maryland.  Now close to Baltimore.  Modeling both the Reading and B&O Railroads.

 

Caleb 10/14/15 - 10/19/19, I'll miss you buddy!

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
SDIV Tim posted:

Other than the No Coal load, do we know what other features are missing for the big boys compared to the 2014 run?

The dual smoke units for each smoke stack, & the blowdown effect. This run appears to have a single smoke unit for both stacks. 

Is the dynamo effect still there?

Berkshire President posted:
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
SDIV Tim posted:

Other than the No Coal load, do we know what other features are missing for the big boys compared to the 2014 run?

The dual smoke units for each smoke stack, & the blowdown effect. This run appears to have a single smoke unit for both stacks. 

Is the dynamo effect still there?

The Big Boys never had the dynamo steam effect, but they are on the Vision Line Challengers.

Berkshire President posted:
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
SDIV Tim posted:

Other than the No Coal load, do we know what other features are missing for the big boys compared to the 2014 run?

The dual smoke units for each smoke stack, & the blowdown effect. This run appears to have a single smoke unit for both stacks. 

Is the dynamo effect still there?

There was never a dynamo effect on a Big Boy. Just the Challengers and it is still on those.

Wow, some of my friends have the latest edition Lionel’s 2019 Volume 2 Catalog, and I am envious....My wife bought me a recliner for my train room and now, when I get a copy of the Newest Dream Catalog, the Lionel Volume 2 edition, I will be able t sit back and thoroughly read it in a quiet place. Great thread, Happy Railroading.  514AE027-88A4-4290-BAEC-5646F2DFB7D419576E68-D2BB-42D8-BD0F-87F19D90C17C5066D0A0-0C9B-4D0F-BD0D-0D256BE3C9F6BADE0BBE-BCB4-4924-9410-64948CE8ADEAEA97BAA3-340C-4990-AD4B-15C8E8550953473A4E60-8839-4D63-BE8D-6FC6C19A78964F562D50-F673-486A-91E2-639B58106F3BF33C8D6D-9833-45E8-B225-3B51FAD72DAF

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Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Let's see this blue goose! 

AB5B32EF-A8BF-4468-8F14-244E3687EC1EHere it is! I don’t know how I feel about it.

R. Lee Ermey has the best response to this...but I cant say it because it probably breaks a rule. All I'll say is that the public found Lionel's Jelly Doughnut.

The tracks ahead are rough, but I can still see a bright future for the hobby of model railroading. We've just got to show our youth that the hobby of railroading is just as fun as any video game.

While I, like many, would love to see the full catalog on this forum, I am assuming most who have it won’t post pics. I wouldn’t want to risk my membership in this forum and I think others feel the same. Lionel has a release date, I assume, for a reason.

The catalog will be out in a couple weeks. If members get their hands on it early, I hope they enjoy it. It sounds like it will be a good book. 

Carl Peduzzi

Dumfries, VA

Carl Peduzzi posted:

While I, like many, would love to see the full catalog on this forum, I am assuming most who have it won’t post pics. I wouldn’t want to risk my membership in this forum and I think others feel the same. Lionel has a release date, I assume, for a reason.

The catalog will be out in a couple weeks. If members get their hands on it early, I hope they enjoy it. It sounds like it will be a good book. 

If they were to ban me for posting pictures of an already released physical copy of a toy train catalog...then this isn't somewhere I want to be anyway. 

Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Let's see this blue goose! 

AB5B32EF-A8BF-4468-8F14-244E3687EC1EHere it is! I don’t know how I feel about it.

Gonna pass. I'll stick with my model of the real thing. I'd love to preorder one of the correct black 3751 class Northerns but they are out of my price range. 

20190627_191805

Santa Fe, All the Way

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Trainmaster04 posted:
booker110 posted:

Is the price of this Big Boy the same as the Visionline? 

No the new BB are 2,200 where as the vl BB's are 2,700.

For those of us who have no purchase interest what is the difference between the versions?

Carl Peduzzi posted:

While I, like many, would love to see the full catalog on this forum, I am assuming most who have it won’t post pics. I wouldn’t want to risk my membership in this forum and I think others feel the same. Lionel has a release date, I assume, for a reason.

The catalog will be out in a couple weeks. If members get their hands on it early, I hope they enjoy it. It sounds like it will be a good book. 

Most Regular Joes on this Forum have no contract with Lionel and are most likely free to post whatever they want about the catalogs, when they want.....save for copyright issues.

The release date has NO real meaning for most of us as far as potential liability to Big Orange.

And do you think Big Orange really minds the free publicity?

BobbyD posted:
Trainmaster04 posted:
booker110 posted:

Is the price of this Big Boy the same as the Visionline? 

No the new BB are 2,200 where as the vl BB's are 2,700.

For those of us who have no purchase interest what is the difference between the versions?

From what I can tell the new version of 4014 is painted just like the prototype. This means the journal box lids on the tender and the trailing trucks are painted white. Next, Lionel even painted the Big Boy on the front smoke box door. On the inside it is way different than the vision line.

To start off, there is still going to be the whistle steam inside of it as well as the stereo sound system in it, but if you can tell by the price there are some things missing. Those things would be, the blow down steam effect and two separate smoke units for the alternating chuff. Also, since 4014 is an oil burner now Lionel could not do the depleting coal load, ( which is a rely nice feature). Finally, you know the red knobs on the engineer’s side, they will probably be gone since 4014 does not have hers anymore.

There you go I hope this gives you an idea what they both have and do not have. Maybe a few more years Lionel will make a live steam Big Boy in o scale.   

Grampstrains posted:
Berkshire President posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

Vision Line Big Boys are out of my price range. So I might as well consider the First Run Edition of the new Big Boy 4014 instead.

I just picked up the first Legacy/JLC version of 4014 from a Forum Member.....for about half of the MSRP of the new one. 

If it cost that much just to pick it up, I'd hate to pay to take it home.

Well played, sir!!  

@T1Titan_ZachF posted:
Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Anything Amtrak? 

If I remember right there’s a boxcar with LEDs and a dome car.

Great to hear, but I think we are in need of some more cabbages and Legacy HHP8s. 

They just did the Cabbages. I would surly buy a Lionel HHP, E60, or ACS64. As long as they don’t have the problems of the VL GG1 or original Acela, they would be a great addition.

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Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
Jon C posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Anything Amtrak? 

If I remember right there’s a boxcar with LEDs and a dome car.

A full dome with sounds? That would be great!

Since people have been talking about the NS OCS for a while now. There's a chance there might be one in the new catalog.

I just picked up one at my local dealer. Yes the NS Office Car Special is in there. The K-Line tank engine (4-6-6T) tooling is finally being used. Several road names from the last K-Line run are in the mix. There is a US Army 4-6-6-T in a gray paint scheme that looks intriguing. Docksiders in LionCheif (with sound) in multiple road names. The Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal looks nice Black with yellow trim and red windows.

The Shark Rescue and Research Set looks cool. Reminds me of the custom Shark Bay engine that a forum member has painted up on Weekend Photo Fun.

Scott Smith

scott.smith posted:

I just picked up one at my local dealer. Yes the NS Office Car Special is in there. The K-Line tank engine (4-6-6T) tooling is finally being used. Several road names from the last K-Line run are in the mix. There is a US Army 4-6-6-T in a gray paint scheme that looks intriguing. Docksiders in LionCheif (with sound) in multiple road names. The Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal looks nice Black with yellow trim and red windows.

The Shark Rescue and Research Set looks cool. Reminds me of the custom Shark Bay engine that a forum member has painted up on Weekend Photo Fun.

Scott Smith

BDET dockside!!! Sold!!!! Is the 4-6-6T legacy???

scott.smith posted:

I just picked up one at my local dealer. Yes the NS Office Car Special is in there. The K-Line tank engine (4-6-6T) tooling is finally being used. Several road names from the last K-Line run are in the mix. There is a US Army 4-6-6-T in a gray paint scheme that looks intriguing. Docksiders in LionCheif (with sound) in multiple road names. The Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal looks nice Black with yellow trim and red windows.

The Shark Rescue and Research Set looks cool. Reminds me of the custom Shark Bay engine that a forum member has painted up on Weekend Photo Fun.

Scott Smith

Pictures please! What road names are on the 4-6-6T? 

scott.smith posted:

Docksiders in LionCheif (with sound) in multiple road names.

Scott Smith

After years of people unsuccessfully trying to figure out how to get the smallest ERR unit into the docksiders, Lionel manages to get LC electronics plus sound into them. Must have used quite a shoehorn to do that. Those will be nice. Are they LC or LC+?

S

Legacy U36C Retail $599.99:

Santa Fe #8703 , 8736 (Blue and Yellow)

Clinchfield #3600, 3604

CSX #7281, 7305

Milwaukee (Have a laugh spelled Milwuakee in the catalog text) #5802, 5803

 

EP5 (Flyer Chief Control) Retail $329.99

New Haven # 372

New York Central #340

Great Northern #8305

Pennsylvania #4950 (Silver with single red stripe)

 

There are freight sound boxcars as well

Scott Smith

scott.smith posted:

4-6-6-T has Legacy retail price $1099.99:

Boston & Albany #400

New York Central #1297

Canadian National #51

New Jersey #231

Illinois Central #205

US Army Transportation Corps #1945

Lackawanna #428

New Haven #1850

Scott Smith

 

 

Wow quite steep for such a small steamer. Do they have whistle steam or swinging bell?

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:
scott.smith posted:

4-6-6-T has Legacy retail price $1099.99:

Boston & Albany #400

New York Central #1297

Canadian National #51

New Jersey #231

Illinois Central #205

US Army Transportation Corps #1945

Lackawanna #428

New Haven #1850

Scott Smith

 

 

Wow quite steep for such a small steamer. Do they have whistle steam or swinging bell?

Whistle Steam yes. Swinging bell no.

Scott

breezinup posted:
scott.smith posted:

Docksiders in LionCheif (with sound) in multiple road names.

Scott Smith

After years of people unsuccessfully trying to figure out how to get the smallest ERR unit into the docksiders, Lionel manages to get LC electronics plus sound into them. Must have used quite a shoehorn to do that. Those will be nice. Are they LC or LC+?

The dockside switcher locomotives have previously been produced with Lionchief already in several sets.

Scott,

The Shark set will be a big hit for the grand kids. Could you give me a list of legacy scale Diesels. I understand there is a Cotton Belt F7 that will be #1 for me if correctly done.

Joe

Home of the Texarkana & East Texas Railroad (Cotton Belt,

Texas & Pacific, MoPac, KCS, and T&NO)

A couple of other things of note;
More sound boxcars (I love those things)

F7AA sets Retail $899.99

Optional Powered B units $449.00

Superbass B units $439.00

Burlington Northern/Great Northern

Chicago Great Western

Denver & Rio Grande

Pennsylvania/Peen Central

Cotton Belt

Scott Smith

 

Trainlover9943 posted:
scott.smith posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Are the docksiders LC+2.0 or just LC? 

LionChief Plus 2.0 Even lists TMCC and LionChief App in description.

Scott Smith

Awesome! What are the roadnames? 

In sets with disconnect cars:

Granite Run Quarry
Easter Eggspress
Christmas Candies

Stand Alone:
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal

Santa Fe

Bethlehem Steel

Rio Grande

Pennsylvania

Scott Smith

scott.smith posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:
scott.smith posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Are the docksiders LC+2.0 or just LC? 

LionChief Plus 2.0 Even lists TMCC and LionChief App in description.

Scott Smith

Awesome! What are the roadnames? 

In sets with disconnect cars:

Granite Run Quarry
Easter Eggspress
Christmas Candies

Stand Alone:
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal

Santa Fe

Bethlehem Steel

Rio Grande

Pennsylvania

Scott Smith

Nice! What's the price? 

Trainlover9943 posted:
scott.smith posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:
scott.smith posted:
Trainlover9943 posted:

Are the docksiders LC+2.0 or just LC? 

LionChief Plus 2.0 Even lists TMCC and LionChief App in description.

Scott Smith

Awesome! What are the roadnames? 

In sets with disconnect cars:

Granite Run Quarry
Easter Eggspress
Christmas Candies

Stand Alone:
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal

Santa Fe

Bethlehem Steel

Rio Grande

Pennsylvania

Scott Smith

Nice! What's the price? 

Stand Alone $249.99

Sets with 5 disconnect cars $349.99

4 Pack side dump cars add-ons are $159.99

Scott Smith

richabr posted:

Vinny26   Since you're probably an O gauge guy, any info on what is new I the S gauge pages? I would appreciate it.

 

thanks, Rich

Scott beat me to it.     There are also 3 bay hoppers and milk flat cars.   I don’t recall if Scott mentioned U36c and EP5s

I would love to pick up one of the 4-6-6T’s, but at $1100, I could pick up a big steam loco. What happened to the $700-$800 price tag on smaller stuff? (H10’s and E6 for example) The NS Executives are pretty nice, but they are a bit pricey. They are also finally rereleasing the NS SD70M-2’s! Any new electrics??

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