putting O-Scale tinplate and Standard Gauge tinplate on the same layout? Show me?

STDG on the outside with O-gauge in the middle? The O-gauge will get lost. On a small layout I like the O-gauge in front. Bigger layouts like the California Railroad museum has O-gauge tin in the background to give selective compression. To me one of the best.

BTW you liked the TS video. Check out Tinplate Legends in action series. 

There's always multi-gauge track.

How to make multi-gauge track.

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Scott Smith

I can only run my Standard gauge at Christmas time due to a lack of space.  I also run O gauge with it and personally I don't think its gets lost at all.  Of course they are both simple loops on a 6x12 under the tree layout.

OOPS! I wanted to post another one.

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Scott,

I don't think I have ever seen your article on making the dual gauge track. 

Jim

that's what I do see

Scott Smith

jd-train posted:

Scott,

I don't think I have ever seen your article on making the dual gauge track. 

Jim

 

Steve Eastman posted and made some 5 rail track step by step on this forum. 

Here is a bit of a walk through on making 5 rail track.

Steve

https://youtu.be/84gGR_fO7ww

Terry, Are there any engines you don't have?? Very impressive!!

JoeG

Gentlemen, all of these wonderful photos, video, and written information is very helpful and truly inspiring. Thank you all so very much for sharing this with me.

I can see that I need to find a tinplate O-scale engine and tender to run a tinplate prewar freight line, and then another O-scale tinplate engine and tender to run a tinplate prewar passenger line. Suggestions?

Here's my setup. Scale is not such a big deal in prewar tinplate (e.g., a 184 Bungalow siting next to a No. 381). Prewar style layouts are usually whimsical abstractions for which "feel" is more important than consistency to a scale. You need look no further than the illustrations in the old Lionel catalogs for examples.

Have fun!

Bob

I've been around tinplate all my life, and we've always had O and SG on the same layout. With tinplate, the whole idea of scale is pretty much thrown out the window anyway, so mixing O & SG shouldn't be an issue.

I'm using USATrack tubular for the Std. Gauge run(s), so what track would be best for the O-scale? My other O-scale projects have Atlas O 3-rail nickel silver, but their brown plastic ties would not go best with the tubular. Gents, what track did you combine on your layouts?

Lionel 031 style track and prewar turnouts would be the closest match to the Standard Gauge track.

031 rails are the same size as Std gauge rails and the ties are usually black also.

Prewar 22 turnouts used the same style switch machine as standard gauge turnouts.

totrainyard posted:

Lionel 031 style track and prewar turnouts would be the closest match to the Standard Gauge track.

031 rails are the same size as Std gauge rails and the ties are usually black also.

Prewar 22 turnouts used the same style switch machine as standard gauge turnouts.

Thank you for the information. Adding that part to a tinplate layout would be a ways off, but I need to know what best to use.

There is a concept in art called "forced perspective", where the size of objects in the foreground and in the background are manipulated in order to fool the eye/brain into believing that "greater depth" exists than actually does.  In practice this concept involves putting larger objects in the foreground and similar but smaller objects in the background. 

Not surprisingly, dual Standard Gauge/O gauge layouts can put this concept to good use by placing Standard Gauge trains and accessories in the foreground and O gauge trains and accessories in the background.  Ideally, the O gauge trains/accessories should be run/located on an elevated platform high enough so that they are easily seen above the Standard Gauge trains/accessories.  This forced perspective combination "tricks" the eye/brain into seeing greater depth on the layout and can really make it "pop".

Bob Nelson

This is an older topic, but I think the subject is still valid.  I do not have more than a few items of Standard gauge.  I am an S gauger, primarily post-war AF, but I have added several items of American Models, S Helper (now MTH) and Lionel Flyer.  I also own some pre-war AF including 3/16 O along with old Marx tin and some Lionel and Atlas O.  My space is very limited, but my dream is to have an interesting compact S gauge layout surrounded by an O gauge loop to run my O gauge stuff and for my O gauger friends to run theirs.

One of the best examples of this kind of two scale combination I have seen was the relatively compact MTH Train Show Display layout before it was redone.  For many years I would see this layout at shows and be impressed at how well the Standard and O gauge trains looked together.  The interior O gauge layout was complex enough to be interesting, while the apparent large size of the Standard gauge was partially and artfully minimized and integrated into the display by the raised O gauge track on one side.

If I could replicate something like this in O and S rather than Standard and O, it would meet my needs.  However, the larger radius of my AF track means that the size of the layout wouldn't scale down much even if the relative  gauges were smaller.  I like the "forced perspective" of the larger gauge out front.

Unfortunately, the last time I saw this layout, it had been greatly modified and simplified to add S and HO gauges to the mix.  Here are a few pix of the old design.

Cheers!

Alan