Originally Posted by Hudson J1e:
Pretty cool comparison Rusty. The Lionel car looks pretty good. What did you do to it to improve the looks of it?
Forgive my lack of knowledge but what are "Scout" cars?
I did this car almost 20 years ago, so bear with. The purpose wasn't to make a super-duper model, just to break up the "monotony" of the American Models boxcars I had.
The carbody as is has a flat bottom. The first thing I did was to notch the bottom of the car to better represent the side frame.
I did carve off the grabs and side ladders. The ladders and stirrup steps are American Models parts, grabirons are old Northeastern parts. The incomplete rivet lines were also sanded down and replaced with styrene strip to represent seams. No perfect, but looks OK. If I ever did another I'd use the decal rivets now available.
Modifying the ends is a little less ambitious. The ends don't look too bad and would have requires a lot of work to remove some of the details. The molded in brake rod and platform were left alone, but the brake wheel housing and brakewheel were removed and replaced with AM parts. The end ladders were sanded down to reduce thickness and new rungs are, of all things, staples.
The underframe is an old Downs Models plastic underframe. Trucks are AM and of course couplers are Kadee 805's. Lettering is individual dry transfer lettering with CDS dimensional data.
Scout was the bottom of the bottom of the line for Lionel in the late 40'/early 50's. Scale was variable, the couplers weren't compatible with Lionel's regular line and the locomotive drive brick was also low quality.
Eventually, trucks were upgraded and better drives were installed. The loco's appeared in low end sets afterward and the cars in low to mid-range sets. The double door boxcar usually was decorated specially for a retailer or other company and survived until the 90's.(I think. I'm not really sure of that date.)
My shell came from the infamous "Black Cave Express" from the 80's, a set that had a cheap 0-4-0 DC locomotive with glow-in-the dark parts and user-applied stickers for decoration. But, the boxcar was a solid, nice dark green.
The current Lionel train set 2-4-2's and 4-4-2's are the great-grandchildren locomotives of the Scout line.