Sunset Models SD40-2

VGN64 posted:

Scott:  If you do the N&W SD40-2 High Hood do you know which paint scheme you will do.  If it's not the one we want can we order one undecorated?

Which will be done depends on reservations.  If 20 reservations for each of the possibilities are received then each of the possibilities will be done.

The same will be true for high versus low hood NW.  If insufficient reservations are received for low hood but the high hood receives enough (or vice versa) then only the high hood will be made.

Interestingly undecorated requires the same 20 reservation minimum or a combination of some scheme plus undecorated equals 20.  Eg., someone only wants to reserve 10 black and white high hood NW because it received insufficient reservations you can fill that reservation with 10 undecorated to equal the 20.  As I understand it so long as there are 20 reservations per single paint and decals that works.  That does NOT work to reserve 10 NW and 10 some other scheme or combination of schemes because the paint and decals still have to be applied to the other 10.

Laidoffsick posted:

Being that it's a brand new model, anyone can throw a number out there, but until they are built and run, there is NO accurate number that can be verified.

Especially with fixed pilots.

Thanks. Do you know what the minimum track radius is for the SD7/9's that were just shipped?

Matt Ryan

Denville, NJ

Atlas SD40's require a minimum 40.5" radius so I imagine that the Sunset SD40-2's will require the same, maybe 45." I have 49.5"

I think they are taking orders through March so perhaps by the end of this month or the beginning of next month we could get an update on how the reservations are going to see if some roadnames may not make the cut.

Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

catnap posted:

Atlas SD40's require a minimum 40.5" radius so I imagine that the Sunset SD40-2's will require the same, maybe 45." I have 49.5" ....

Thanks. And as far as Atlas turnouts, would #5 or #7.5 turnouts be the minimum. I'm completely new to 2-rail.

Matt Ryan

Denville, NJ

The SD40-2 is not cancelled.  No projects really ever are.  It just needs enough reservations to go forward.  Right now I don't know the exact number but it's just not there.  Scott and those of us who assist him thought this would be a great model for the market, especially 2 rail, for a good quality and accurate diesel that would be at home on a post 1972 layout to this day.  The GP40-2 question is just that.  A question.  I'd love to see the SD40-2 go forward and it would be a nice gateway to more modern offerings.  The interest just doesn't seem to be there at the moment. 

As with everything, time will tell.

Jonathan Peiffer

 

The reservation price is still up on the Sunset website at 729.95, realistically Scott needs 400+ reservations to produce at this price so a mix of 2 rail and 3 rail reservations is necessary to make this number. It would appear 2nd and 3rd generation diesels are simply not getting that support from 2 railers [opinion] and 3 railers have been inundated with these products from MTH and Lionel, it does not look promising for modern 2 rail diesel era modelers/collectors. JMO

falconservice posted:

Lionel did just put their version of the SD40-2 loco for 3-Rail in the latest catalog. 

Nobody has made the GP40-2 or the Canadian GP40-2W. 

Many of the GP40-2W are being used in the USA now by WATCO. 

Andrew

but what will this help me, i am running 2-rail

Cor

Somebody put the CN repaint of the GTW SD40-2s that they got from the Union Pacific/Missouri Pacific. 

I need the Grand Trunk Western scheme on the SD40-2s. 

I am surprised that a few more people have not ordered the Grand Trunk Western variation. 

It would be great to finally have the best SD40-2 diesel-electric locomotive model in 2-Rail and 3-Rail. 

They have to show us how much better it is going to be over the Lionel and MTH/ex-Weaver versions. 

Andrew

If they can produce a high short hood version of the SD40-2, Scott Mann has to make sure there is a true Canadian National Wide Safety Cabin version of the SD40-2 produced that they call the SD40-2W.

The GTW SD40-2 units should be the ones in the white, blue & red scheme, not the CN scheme. 

GTW 5936 GTW 5937 on SOO or MILW in St. Paul, MN January 28th, 1993

Andrew

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I hope this thread stays current because it may inspire others who didn't know about it or were on the fence to reserve models. I don't own any 3rd Rail models but I'm well aware of their reputation for detail and craftsmanship.

I don't know if there would be enough reservations (20) to push through for W&LE, even though it's an awesome paint job/herald. In that case, I would shift my reservation to CSX or B&O (Chessie). Regardless of road name, I would like to have 2 or 3 of these and hope this project eventually meets enough reservations.

Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

Maxrailroad posted:

Question for Scott, will the NS version be equipped with orange strobe lights on top, signifying the locomotive is equipped for remote control operation? Also will the road number be from a former N&W or a SOU unit?

We haven't made any of these determinations yet.  Design won't officially begin until there are enough preorders to allow the project to move forward.  Depending on detail variations between Southern and NW we might do numbers for both.  Not sure about the strobe since it would limit the use, but it all depends on what people put in the comments when they pre-order a unit.  Request your desires.  We take all that into partial consideration when it comes to detail specifics.  The factory has limitations on how many variations they will do, but Scott does a great job of pushing them to do more all the time. 

I have a Conrail 2 rail pre-ordered and a ATSF 3 rail pre-ordered.  Conrail is out of my 2 rail modeling era, but I grew up with Conrail so why not?

Jonathan Peiffer

 

Maxrailroad posted:

Question for Scott, will the NS version be equipped with orange strobe lights on top, signifying the locomotive is equipped for remote control operation? Also will the road number be from a former N&W or a SOU unit?

I asked for the ex N&W HH 1630 as per the illustration when I placed the reservation back in Dec 2016 - I can live without the strobe -  lets just get it made

moonlicht posted:

good to see there is still a go for this project

would it be posible to ad something as a counter how far a project is doing ?

now i (and i think more people) are guesing how far is it or is it a no go.

i was almost giving up hope for these SD 's

 

Cor

Probably 3-5 years.  If it was a go today it would be 15-18 months before delivery.

Maxrailroad posted:

Question for Scott, will the NS version be equipped with orange strobe lights on top, signifying the locomotive is equipped for remote control operation?

I certainly hope that they wouldn't put one of those ugly things on top! Besides, it would limit the era.

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