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briansilvermustang posted:
mike g. posted:

Brian, can you explain the lights on top of the last passenger car? Is that normal as I have never seen one like that!

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Thanks Brian, Must be a East Coast thing!

I got a few hours in on Saturday, and made some serious progress on my girder viaduct. 

My painted parts are almost all used up.

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I had to splice three pieces together to get the length I needed.

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Now the fun part, getting my feeders reinstalled. I took a very long drill bit, and went through block on top of the pier, then through the pier, and finally through the plywood. I made four of these holes, one hot, one ground, and two detection.

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Then I soldered them onto the web below the tie line. I used a dental pick to scrape the rail clean, it even took off the black coating from the center rail.

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I glued the front girder to the frame. I still have to do the back one, but it's cut to length and ready to go.

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Both ends of this thing still need their abutments, then I just have to clean up the paint and weather it. The good news is the auto rack makes it around, no problem. I'll have to check a Superliner.

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Guys my layout isn't that nice. Especially compared to most of the ones on here. It's only a 12'x16' tabletop with a 4'x5' extension for the passenger terminal/downtown. It's got two loops (072 outer, 054 inner) and conventional power with a ZW and Z. But at least all the trains are scale sized, except the 60' passenger cars .

I'm hoping to fill/smooth out joints, paint the supports and platforms, and wire the tracks in the terminal this week.

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Great Work Elliot! The bridge it looking great! I needed a long drill bit for my last layout and a friend took a welding rod took all the outside welding stuff off, then ground a Paddle bit out of it! It's 16" long so to go threw my old raised section all the way threw the plywood all in one hole!

But then again it doesn't matter you have great work going there!

Finally got all the LED's installed in the background buildings and got them wired through an adjustable AC/DC buck converter.   Added a 3 rd floor to the brick building over the tracks so it wasn't so "square", and weathered the large girder beam supporting the building ....  Time to start building more layout at the other end of the room.   Tried to take some night time photos but it's challenging ......  Also finally found a reasonable formula for ballasting the tracks in the engine service facility.....    DSCN3965

 

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Lou1985 posted:

Guys my layout isn't that nice. Especially compared to most of the ones on here. It's only a 12'x16' tabletop with a 4'x5' extension for the passenger terminal/downtown. It's got two loops (072 outer, 054 inner) and conventional power with a ZW and Z. But at least all the trains are scale sized, except the 60' passenger cars .

Lou, Don't sell yourself short. Layouts are a reflection of what each of us likes about the hobby and our talents as well as the time put into them. Some are detailed. Some are toy train like. Most are never finished. The best layouts are the results of many years of improvements and changes that reflect our increased knowledge and talent in the hobby. You have a great looking layout. Better than most and capable of growing into much more. 

Pat Kn posted:
Lou1985 posted:

Guys my layout isn't that nice. Especially compared to most of the ones on here. It's only a 12'x16' tabletop with a 4'x5' extension for the passenger terminal/downtown. It's got two loops (072 outer, 054 inner) and conventional power with a ZW and Z. But at least all the trains are scale sized, except the 60' passenger cars .

Lou, Don't sell yourself short. Layouts are a reflection of what each of us likes about the hobby and our talents as well as the time put into them. Some are detailed. Some are toy train like. Most are never finished. The best layouts are the results of many years of improvements and changes that reflect our increased knowledge and talent in the hobby. You have a great looking layout. Better than most and capable of growing into much more. 

Hear! Hear! You are definitely too modest Lou. Your layout is very nice and will only get better with time.

Bob

I have been working on my new layout, it is basically a shelf around my reloading/storage room. I think it is 12x20. One part is the last remaining piece of my old O scale trolley line, the rail is code 148. I think I can use it as kind of a homage to my past. I have been blown away at the quality of everyone`s railroads, you all are quite an inspiration. I`ll get pictures this weekend and post them.

Mike

Well I have to hand it to Paul 2, he did a fabulous job hosting our Tuesday night train group last night.  Great food and train conversation and honestly the pictures he posts online don't do his layout justice.  The man is a machine churning out area after area in his basement.  Maybe not as big as the Treaty of Versailles but look what I saw when I arrived last night.  I guess roughing him up at the last meeting paid off.  

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Bryan in Ohio posted:

Well I have to hand it to Paul 2, he did a fabulous job hosting our Tuesday night train group last night.  Great food and train conversation and honestly the pictures he posts online don't do his layout justice.  The man is a machine churning out area after area in his basement.  Maybe not as big as the Treaty of Versailles but look what I saw when I arrived last night.  I guess roughing him up at the last meeting paid off.  

I’m glad everyone had a good time at Paul’s house last evening! Great job Paul!

Bryan in Ohio posted:

Well I have to hand it to Paul 2, he did a fabulous job hosting our Tuesday night train group last night.  Great food and train conversation and honestly the pictures he posts online don't do his layout justice.  The man is a machine churning out area after area in his basement.  Maybe not as big as the Treaty of Versailles but look what I saw when I arrived last night.  I guess roughing him up at the last meeting paid off.  

paul

I guess his security detail had the night off.

Bob

briansilvermustang posted:

      hey Mark, you get that close, you can also stop by and see Clem and I ...

Well let’s see; I think Paul said he lives in Cuyahoga Falls.  That is about 2 hours away.  Bryan is somewhere nearby.  Toledo is 2 hours from Cuyahoga Falls, and Clem is just over the state line.  Minimum driving is 4 hours one way.  Wow, that’s a lot of railroading!!  Thank you Brian!!

I thank Bryan for the compliments. And Bryan said it for me. Whenever you get time to see layouts you are more then welcome. Hosting the Tuesday night crew went without a hitch. So with the morning behind me now and I got pretty much everything cleaned up plus it is wet outside from the rain that means I can go to the basement and work on the layout the rest of the day. Got a few things that I can get into since I cleaned off the tables so everyone could see the layout. Maybe I'll have some pics later in the day.............Paul

Treat you nice Bryan with a happy face and this is how you treat me. I feel like Caesar LOL. Armed guards ( new younger ones ) will be at the door at my next night to host to escort you out of town. Mark is welcome to come. And I meant to pack something in case a person gets hungry on the road. Mark will be treated to good food but you if allowed in will only get water and some old bread.............LOL................Paul 

Brian, Bryan, and Paul!!  Thank you each and every one of you!!  I needed that tee shirt last week when I went to York.    4 1/2 hours each way!  Yes, that is what I did, packed food, coffee, and pop.  On two days, I only bought a meal at the OGR Quaker Steak and Lube and a burger on the Turnpike on the way home, since I ran out of groceries!    

Mark Boyce posted:
briansilvermustang posted:

      hey Mark, you get that close, you can also stop by and see Clem and I ...

Well let’s see; I think Paul said he lives in Cuyahoga Falls.  That is about 2 hours away.  Bryan is somewhere nearby.  Toledo is 2 hours from Cuyahoga Falls, and Clem is just over the state line.  Minimum driving is 4 hours one way.  Wow, that’s a lot of railroading!!  Thank you Brian!!

No worries Mark- if you make it to Brian's (silvermustang), I'm sure you can bunk with Izzy 

Lou1985 posted:

Got all the "concrete" painted before work today. Now I just need to wire the track, ballast the terminal tracks, and repair the scenery next to the support area. Then I can mount the plywood top and start rebuilding the downtown area. So yeah, almost done 

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Looks great so far!

Lou1985 posted:

Got all the "concrete" painted before work today. Now I just need to wire the track, ballast the terminal tracks, and repair the scenery next to the support area. Then I can mount the plywood top and start rebuilding the downtown area. So yeah, almost done 

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Looking good Lou. I like what you did with the switch. I have the same 5121's but I only ballasted up to the body of the switch. Yours blend in to the scene better.

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RSJB18 posted:
Mark Boyce posted:
briansilvermustang posted:

      hey Mark, you get that close, you can also stop by and see Clem and I ...

Well let’s see; I think Paul said he lives in Cuyahoga Falls.  That is about 2 hours away.  Bryan is somewhere nearby.  Toledo is 2 hours from Cuyahoga Falls, and Clem is just over the state line.  Minimum driving is 4 hours one way.  Wow, that’s a lot of railroading!!  Thank you Brian!!

No worries Mark- if you make it to Brian's (silvermustang), I'm sure you can bunk with Izzy 

 

Thanks Mike, Bob, Mike and Mark.

Yesterday was the big day, my guy came over to take the photos for the convention (for the second time). This time he seemed more excited. I staged some trains for him, and I think he got some good shots. Now they'll be sent to the webmaster for selection. As soon as they are up, I'll put a new link in my signature.

When that was done, I did a couple of small projects. I got some more 3.5 gallon buckets. I use them to store scenic materials. So I spent some time putting away most of what I sorted a couple weeks ago. It's nice not having boxes full of random stuff.

After Patrick and I carved the roadbed, some of the lettering that I had applied to the fascia was messed up. The vinyl letters don't really like to stick to the semi-gloss paint. My solution was to go over them with Mod Podge, and secure them once and for all. So I repaired the damage in aisle three, and locked down aisle four. After that, I started fresh in aisle two, and got all of that done.

It's not too difficult, but it is time consuming, getting everything just right. I cut a strip of Masonite, and just clamp it on to serve as a guide. You can't really see it, but there's a small pencil mark where I wanted the center of the words to be. There are 14 letters in University Jct. The space counts as one.

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I did Shoreham. Here it is with wet Mod Podge.

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Same for Pig's Eye, as well as Red Wing and 35th Avenue. I still have to get the semi-gloss over in aisle one before I can finish over there.

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Remember the last thing I said in my previous post from Monday, about the clearance on the new bridge? There's about a 1/4" gap for the auto rack...

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but only an 1/8" for the Superliner. WHEW!!! May need to do some more testing using other passenger cars with skirts.

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Lou, looking good. Elliot, you never know till you run a car over your work whether you allowed for the right clearance. Sometimes it is trial and error but better to catch it at the beginning. Today I installed a set of weaver three rail die cast trucks I got off EBAY on a Weaver flat I picked up at York that was for 2 rail. I also started placing more trees and shrubs on the other side of the bridge abutment. Tonight the wife has a game so that gives me a train night in the basement. Pics..............Paul

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Big_Boy_4005 posted:

Thanks Mike, Bob, Mike and Mark.

Yesterday was the big day, my guy came over to take the photos for the convention (for the second time). This time he seemed more excited. I staged some trains for him, and I think he got some good shots. Now they'll be sent to the webmaster for selection. As soon as they are up, I'll put a new link in my signature.

When that was done, I did a couple of small projects. I got some more 3.5 gallon buckets. I use them to store scenic materials. So I spent some time putting away most of what I sorted a couple weeks ago. It's nice not having boxes full of random stuff.

After Patrick and I carved the roadbed, some of the lettering that I had applied to the fascia was messed up. The vinyl letters don't really like to stick to the semi-gloss paint. My solution was to go over them with Mod Podge, and secure them once and for all. So I repaired the damage in aisle three, and locked down aisle four. After that, I started fresh in aisle two, and got all of that done.

It's not too difficult, but it is time consuming, getting everything just right. I cut a strip of Masonite, and just clamp it on to serve as a guide. You can't really see it, but there's a small pencil mark where I wanted the center of the words to be. There are 14 letters in University Jct. The space counts as one.

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I did Shoreham. Here it is with wet Mod Podge.

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Same for Pig's Eye, as well as Red Wing and 35th Avenue. I still have to get the semi-gloss over in aisle one before I can finish over there.

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Remember the last thing I said in my previous post from Monday, about the clearance on the new bridge? There's about a 1/4" gap for the auto rack...

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but only an 1/8" for the Superliner. WHEW!!! May need to do some more testing using other passenger cars with skirts.

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Elliot, things are looking great! I hope the bridge isn't going to become a problem as it looks so nice! If they don't chose you for the tour, just let us know! We can go find him and have a little chat!

So while the wife watched the Cavs I got some work done. I spent the evening adding a bit more to the first bridge abutment I was working on. Then I jumped to the other side and started adding tree, a couple of bushes and ground turf. I still have to glue it down. I took a minute to add the coal loads I got from Don Kane to my AC&Y hoppers.He makes great loads. So the game is over and the wife wants me to spend time with her watching some TV. Can't say no. Pics of the work tonight............Paul

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Elliot, it looks great!  I thought that I had all my clearances checked out and then found that my new Atlas 21" California Zephyr cars hits my tunnel liner on my freight mainline.  I hadn't checked running passenger cars in the reverse direction on my freight line, but had checked everywhere on the passenger line.  It does make a difference what direction you are running on some bridges and tunnels as the cars swing out on curves.  I didn't have enough straight track before the bridge on one.

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I had an interesting, cleansing train day. I had several items ending on the bay 

today. Nothing sold even tho I had some nice things priced to sell, not make money on.

And the shipping I charge is so low I usually end up contributing. Anyway, after realizing

I have spent a lot of time trying to sell this stuff, I have decided to take a break from selling. 

I sorted thru the stuff and actually threw some in the trash. I started my Fortescue Foundation

box of stuff for him to donate to the Museum. ((coming soon Mitch)). It was actually kind of 

uplifting to throw some stuff away, fill the Fortescue box and know tomorrow I don't have to 

check my "all selling" on the bay. I even started breaking down and discarding boxes I had been

hoarding to ship things. My life is good.

Took some photos of buildings I bought at York last week.  I integrated these buildings into Patburg's Westend neighborhood.... a fire house and three town houses.  I also angled mirrors to give a down hill effect on one of the  streets and the other mirror was angled to give the impression that a Ford T bird is making a right had turn.  IMG_6048IMG_6057IMG_6103IMG_6010

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Paul2- the bridge area is looking good. Funny- I think that's where you where when I started following your build a couple of years ago.

Patrick- I didn't think Patsburg had any vacant lots. The new construction looks good. The mirrors are a neat touch too.

Beardog- sometimes a good clean up is the best thing.

Art and Elliot- We can all sympathize with you about spots on our layouts where the scenery interferes with the trains. The reverse travel issue Art had is particularly annoying. Just when you think you checked everything BOOM!

Bob

Lou1985 posted:

Got all the "concrete" painted before work today. Now I just need to wire the track, ballast the terminal tracks, and repair the scenery next to the support area. Then I can mount the plywood top and start rebuilding the downtown area. So yeah, almost done 

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Your track looks good! I enjoy seeing layouts using 027.

balidas posted:
Lou1985 posted:

Got all the "concrete" painted before work today. Now I just need to wire the track, ballast the terminal tracks, and repair the scenery next to the support area. Then I can mount the plywood top and start rebuilding the downtown area. So yeah, almost done 

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Your track looks good! I enjoy seeing layouts using 027.

027 profile track. Outer main line has 072 curves, inner 054. Lets me run scale sized equipment. I went with 027 profile because it's shorter and looks much better than 0 tubular track.

I did get the three terminal tracks wired in this evening. Tomorrow I hope to ballast and finish up scenery repair. Then next week I'll be on to mounting plywood and starting on the downtown area.

Chugman posted:

Elliot, it looks great!  I thought that I had all my clearances checked out and then found that my new Atlas 21" California Zephyr cars hits my tunnel liner on my freight mainline.  I hadn't checked running passenger cars in the reverse direction on my freight line, but had checked everywhere on the passenger line.  It does make a difference what direction you are running on some bridges and tunnels as the cars swing out on curves.  I didn't have enough straight track before the bridge on one.

Art

Good morning Art....If you use those really cool switch track lanterns from Ross make sure you move them far away from the track.

Clem

beardog posted:

and the friendly and helpful flamingos slowly assimilate into the 

local populations..................

Pat Kn posted:

Nice job, Mitch.

Thankee!   

If anyone else has problems with their DeWitt Clinton, let me know;  I am now familiar with the innards of the thing.   

John D. posted:

I'd forgotten it was out of commission! Thanks for your help!!

My pleasure!  The tricky bit was resoldering the plug...  and then reassembling the little indefinite...   

briansilvermustang posted:

                              hope you're getting better Clem !!!  

Seconded!  

Mitch 

IMG_3725A little bridge work... I dug out my atlas industrial rail track for this layout, but was missing one straight. I noticed this track uses the same pins and has almost the same rail profile as gargraves track, which I have a few sections of, so I cut a piece to match the missing straight, and immediately thought "gee, those sure look like bridge ties compared to the atlas track"... a few scraps of wood and some paint and now I have a bridge!

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Thanks guys.

Yesterday I worked on a few things. I started with the girder on the back side of the bridge, and got it glued in place. The big cars were still OK for clearance, but of all things, the track cleaning car was hitting in a couple spots on the newly installed back girder. The car is only six inches long, but it has thumb screws sticking out the side, that were the problem. I just popped the glue joint in those spots on the bridge, and solved the problem. There are still some cars that will need testing.

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I got my paints out and weathered the bridge. I only used two colors to do all of this, a bright rusty red-orange, and black.

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Blending the two colors together, I got a range of rusty browns. I used a stippling technique to get this effect. I think I over did it on the piers though. I'll have to go back and fix that.

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I spent a couple hours over at Hoffman, cleaning track and switches after ballast touch ups. Nothing like a dental pick for getting switches unstuck. Then I touched up paint on guard rails and frogs, where the track cleaning car scratched it off.

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I just used a foam scrap as a pallet for the afternoon. The small brush was for the rail touch ups.

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Finally, I totally switched gears, and soldered some plugs on one of my signal bridges. Seems like forever ago that I touched the signals. I'd like to get these off my workbench and onto the layout. They will make things look better.

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Here's the best picture from Tuesday's photo session. I wish I could have had the signals lit up. That's a lot of work, but if I plan my time carefully, it could be done.

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started the wiring for the upper level today. Have the holes drilled for the power leads from below and the jumper leads cut from the number 14 stranded reels for 6 or 7 connections planned. Installed and soldered two of the connections and ran some temp connections from the track below with alligator clips. Just to check out the running of the train.So far so good.  

Elliot, the bridge is really taking shape. You did a nice job with the painting. I really like the pic of the finished cliff area with one of my favorite railroads going through....CP Rail. Tonight I got a chance to work again on the layout. Wife watched the Cavs, Because I had the table top pretty much cleaned off I finally decided which two buildings I would put in that area. The Sur Sweet and the creamery from Walthers ( now Atlas ). Once I got them positioned I laid down some cork and glued it down. Once I lay down track I am going to extend the rail loading dock so I can spot two reefers there at one time. Then I glued down the ground turf I put down yesterday or the day before. Tomorrow morning I can pull the nails and paint the cork and should sometime during the day put down some ballast. Pics........Paul

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Got the new terminal tracks ballasted and repaired the scenery damaged by removal of the mountain. Glue is still wet in the pictures. I've got to paint the underside of plywood base for the downtown area before I mount it. Also paint "rust" on the rails of the new track. Not bad for two weeks of progress. I probably won't get much done this week as I'll be busy. I'll hopefully make some progress again next weekend. 

 

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Remember this dummy? I rounded up some more LEDs and added headlights & ditch lights. There's a selector switch in the chassis that turns on either red for stop/reverse or headlights for forward/go.   Whenever I convert a powered unit to a dummy and I see a slider switch I leave it there for future use - like today!

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