What did you do on your layout today?

mike g. posted:

paul 2 posted:

Mike, looking good.   How long before you can start to put walls up........Paul

I don't know, I have never poured concrete before. This is a first for me, I was thinking a week. Maybe someone here knows! LOL

Concrete reaches 65% of it's strength in 7 days and 90% at 14 days.

NJCJOE posted:

mike g. posted:

paul 2 posted:

Mike, looking good.   How long before you can start to put walls up........Paul

I don't know, I have never poured concrete before. This is a first for me, I was thinking a week. Maybe someone here knows! LOL

Concrete reaches 65% of it's strength in 7 days and 90% at 14 days.

Thanks Joe!

mike g. posted:

carsntrains posted:

Mike the project pictured.  I went and got the supplies on a Thursday, built the walls on Friday, put the floor joists up on Saturday.   Took Sunday off other than picking up the 4x8 floor panels.   Then Monday put the floor down.  : )    I think I'm a bit younger than you though.   52.   

Jim 

That loft is 20x25!  That's in our shop.   It would make a GREAT train room lol   

LOL Thanks for the input Jim, you are 2 years younger then me, But the big "C" took a lot out of me! I still do what I did before, just takes me longer. But I am still here!

Mike and Jim,

 I am starting to take the wisdom of my dad to heart as I am over 60.  Dad, in his 70s to mid 80s  would take the day off after one or two hard day’s work.  Yesterday, I did a lot on the layout  carrying 1 x 10s to the patio to rip into 1 x 4s and crawling under to put drill from underneath.  Anyway the day off helped Dad keep active until age 86, when a healt issue got him down.   He exercised but didn’t overdo it. 

but you don't have to wait that long to start putting the walls up, concrete does not dry,

it cures, a chemical reaction, so ambient humidity or rain, etc have nothing to do with

it, it will cure underwater

mike g. posted:

Not to much, but I can tell you its to much for this old guy! check it out!No all I need to do is start putting up some walls when it dries!

Mike, it looks like a job well done! Take it easy a while!

paul 2 posted:

With dinner in the oven I went down and put a coat of black on the table edge, legs and braces. I don't paint the entire brace because they will be under the tongue and groove shelves. I only paint the outside of the braces that can be seen. So I'll let this coat dry and then apply a second coat. Pics................Paul

The painting looks good Paul.  I'm going to do the same.  The linoleum tiles do look good.  I was told once by an inspector the asbestos content is okay as long as they don't start to crumble and the stuff get airborne.

Mark, I have to disagree with your inspector, just walking on them 

can raise dust and that is the problem. The dust gets airborne and

you inhale it. Simply putting a coat of floor wax or a clear finish

or a coat of paint on the areas you walk on will solve the problem. 

beardog posted:

Mark, I have to disagree with your inspector, just walking on them 

can raise dust and that is the problem. The dust gets airborne and

you inhale it. Simply putting a coat of floor wax or a clear finish

or a coat of paint on the areas you walk on will solve the problem. 

Beardog,

That all does make sense!  At least I don’t own that house anymore.  It was over 25 years ago.  Thank you very much!

Today my bookend came and am working on sign parts. Here is a mock up of what I am envisioning 

The other thing I am doing to give the flat more depth is to create a false sense on an interior.

I am going to use a back lit photo film inside the center window area outlined in red and two of the lower dock doors I plan to do a small interior space of the dock with

kegs and cases of bottles etc. since they fall below the benchwork and track that runs behind these fronts. I've got about 5-6" of depth I can utilize.

Here is the image that is being printed on the back lit material.

and I found these thin LED light boxes on ebay really cheap and they are very thin, less than 1/4"

More progress on the RSD-4 project! 

Mounting lug installed...

And tested...

I decided to add another air shield to the other side of the pantograph. 

Windows painted and shell primed. 

Razorback Red! 

Blast shield added to pan. 

A  little touchup on the horn.  

Assembly this weekend, if all goes well... 

Mitch 

I just finished wiring my last miller engineering sign. Finished cleaning up my parts schelves up and throwing away a bunch of junk that is no longer needed.  I still have some wiring to be dun under the layout for the tracks and buildings (later my knees are hurting) i'm going to try and take pictures tomorrow and figure out how to post them on here. good night all.

chief and CEO of the EA&J RR

mike g. posted:

Not to much, but I can tell you its to much for this old guy! check it out!No all I need to do is start putting up some walls when it dries!

Nice start Mike.  Did you remember to carve name & Date in the concrete?

Hi Matt, I was going to but the wife said that was stupid. Oh well I will make sure I put it somewhere when I finish the building!

Mark Boyce posted:

beardog posted:

Mark, I have to disagree with your inspector, just walking on them 

can raise dust and that is the problem. The dust gets airborne and

you inhale it. Simply putting a coat of floor wax or a clear finish

or a coat of paint on the areas you walk on will solve the problem. 

Beardog,

That all does make sense!  At least I don’t own that house anymore.  It was over 25 years ago.  Thank you very much!

Guys- the tile in Paul's house is most likely asbestos ceramic tile (ACT) was common place up until they banned asbestos in the late 60's. A good indicator is if it's 9" X 9" it's ACT. Fortunately the process used to make the tile permanently bonds the fibers into the tile. It cannot become airborne unless pulverized to a fine dust. Even a cracked tile is not hazardous. A good coat of wax is advisable though.

We still have lots of it in some of our older buildings at the College I work at. It still has to be removed by a licensed asbestos contractor but its probably the least hazardous asbestos containing material around these days.

Bob

mike g. posted:

Not to much, but I can tell you its to much for this old guy! check it out!No all I need to do is start putting up some walls when it dries!

WHOO HOO ! Looks good Mike.

I would wait as long as possible before starting framing. The more time you give the concrete to cure the better. Remember dry concrete is not the same a cured concrete. If you want to know for sure check with your building department. They may want to inspect before you begin framing any way.

On the big construction projects on my campus we get test reports on concrete- they do breaks on test cylinders at 7, 14, 30, and 60 days. The strength of the concrete goes up with each test.

Don't over do it. The work will get done when it gets done.

Bob

mike g. posted:

Hi Matt, I was going to but the wife said that was stupid. Oh well I will make sure I put it somewhere when I finish the building!

LOL!  At our last house in 2013, we were removing wallpaper and there on the sheetrock wall was "Waldo was here, Feb 1973"!  When my dad was renovating our ca. 1870 house in Danbury CT, he found Indian Head pennies inside a wall with dates in the late 1800's.  Maybe you could leave an old train car or a piece of Lionel 3rail track in a wall for a hint of its original design/use.  Best of luck as you go forward!

Thanks Bob, its not going to get done fast that's for sure, but it will be a slow process. I feel as long as I am moving ahead its all good! I am going to try and pick up some of the lumber next week some time. I will frame the wall and get a roof on it first. Then go back and sheet the walls. I know its easier to sheet them while there laying down before I stand them, but money is a factor so I thought it more important to get a roof on it! 

Wish me luck! LOL

decoynh posted:

mike g. posted:

Hi Matt, I was going to but the wife said that was stupid. Oh well I will make sure I put it somewhere when I finish the building!

LOL!  At our last house in 2013, we were removing wallpaper and there on the sheetrock wall was "Waldo was here, Feb 1973"!  When my dad was renovating our ca. 1870 house in Danbury CT, he found Indian Head pennies inside a wall with dates in the late 1800's.  Maybe you could leave an old train car or a piece of Lionel 3rail track in a wall for a hint of its original design/use.  Best of luck as you go forward!

Matt. I love that idea! I have the perfect train car to pack in the wall. I will put a little note with it!

Sounds good Mike. Get the roof on and wrap the walls with vapor barrier (Tyvec, etc). That will keep the moisture off the wood. The sooner its dry the better.

Bob

I agree with everything you said Bob! Going to do as much as I can as soon as I can!