Never understood why no one makes Pullman cars. They could run on almost any road so there would be a big market for them. Some should make them like K-line did with no road name, just Pullman. I've tried to find the K-line version at a reasonable price but they just don't come up often. Don
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Mth has done a number of full sets in Pullman from the silohuette days through the interiors sans figures and interiors with figures. Lionel has not done full sets, as they would not be prototipical, but have done the 20th Century sets with NYC and Pullman cars mixed. I don't believe Pullman made head end or dining cars lettered with their name.
20-4033 Interiors without figures. ( easily added)
20-4081 Interiors with figures.
Pete
You could also look for an MTH Premier set. According to the MTH website, they did a couple of sets of heavyweight cars. That was a ways back, so they probably won't be easy to find. Go to the advanced search, select Pullman from the drop-down list of roadnames.
Check out the Lionchief Page #98 in the current Lionel Signature edition. There are
even a combine and a baggage, however, length I cannot find listed, and these
look like shorty cars to me. Which is why I skimmed over them, but...there are seven
different cars, all lettered "Pullman".
The 18" K-Line cars are hard to find. The 15" K-Lines come up a little more often. Lionel reran the 15" cars under the K-Line by Lionel banner.
Pete
Thanks Pete, I'm looking for the 15 inch cars. Don
I think both Lionel and MTH made Pullman car sets. I've had them both.
I had a set of Lionel passenger cars I think were made for the Commodore Vanderbuilt back in the late 90's. As I remember, all the cars were Pullman, the baggage car was NYC.
Pete is aware of the set.
scale rail - Your post above is why I bought the sets. I model the Santa Fe, but Pullmans ran on all lines. At the time there wasn't any Santa Fe heavyweights except for early K-Line cars with trucks that fell apart. The Pullman branded heavyweights filled the bill. The NYC baggage car would have modeled a transcontinental foreign head end car.
Santa Fe like most other roads always had head end from other roads, especially on secondary trains.
BTW That NYC set seems like it is always available and usually sells for less than other similar sets. The cars are very nice, but they have silhouette passengers, but they are easily changed.
I'm not sure about the dates, but something else, the observation was Pullman on the side, but the drumhead was NYC.
Sam, I know K-line made them but I'm surprised more companies have not and are not making them. I would love to mix a few in my Milwaukee heavy weight trains. By the way in Richmond California there is a Pullman Ave. On that street is a huge cement building that once serviced Pullman cars. First shot is about 1950, second is present time. Don
I have seen Pullman Madison Cars on eBay and they are advertised as being Lionel. Pullman cars; the original hotel on the rails run on just about every overnight passenger train up to the end of the 1950's. They would go well on a layout based in that era but the color always seemed to be dark green. .
I have thought about getting some of the "Pullman" lettered cars I have seen, but
with modeling a short line, I am wondering how many shortlines in Beebe and Clegg's
"Mixed Train Daily", ever saw a Pullman car except at their Class 1 interchange...?
Lionel just made the baby madison cars in pullman name & pullman green .
they were made to go with the Lion Chief + Alantics & Pacifics .
Williams by Bachmann made some pullman passengers cars, but with silhouettes in a 4 pack. They are very good looking and actually say "pullman" like the pictures above. I remember my friend buying them at York from Trainworld for $99 at the time (may be 3 years ago) and he runs them with everything since they go with any railroad.
Lionel recently made NYC Pullman four car with two car addon cars like this.
I would love to mix a few in my Milwaukee heavy weight trains.
Don
All the Milwaukee Road historical reference books I have say that the Milwaukee mostly operated its own sleeper cars, and that when it did run cars owned or operated by Pullman they were painted in Milwaukee colors. I would think that any green Pullman car in a Milwaukee road sleeper train would be a loaner to cover for when a regular car was out of service.
I have the MTH silhouettes nice cars roll, good too. I also have a K-Line passenger car compared next to it MTH makes their scale version tall and shorter than K-Line.
Interesting about the Milwaukee...I am guessing there is a book on Pullman that
lists all the roads that ran them?
Check out the Lionchief Page #98 in the current Lionel Signature edition. There are
even a combine and a baggage, however, length I cannot find listed, and these
look like shorty cars to me. Which is why I skimmed over them, but...there are seven
different cars, all lettered "Pullman".
According to an eBay vendor cars in set 6-81749 are 13 1/2" coupler to coupler.
Norton is correct - the only cars lettered PULLMAN would be either sleepers (many different floor/window plans - including sleeper obs.) and parlor cars.
A little history helps understand why passenger cars were painted and lettered the way they were over the years. I'll use the PRR as an example but it applies to other railroads as well. Prior to 1947 the railroads owned head end, coach, and dining cars while Pullman owned and operated (Pullman crews) most sleeping and parlor cars. Ownership was reflected by the name centered on the letter board (an exception being train names on some letter boards). Thus in the case of the pre-war PRR’s trains letter boards had a mix of PULLMAN and PENNSYLVANIA depending on car type/ownership. Railroads with clout could arrange with the Pullman Company to paint sleepers and parlor cars assigned to their trains in the railroad’s colors - thus Pullmans dedicated to PRR routes were generally painted Tuscan red with black roofs.
In 1940 the US DOJ filed an anti-trust suit against the Pullman Company seeking to split Pullman's car building subsidiary (Pullman- Standard Car Manufacturing Company) from its car operations division. Pullman lost the case resulting in a reorganization of the company in which the Pullman Company (car operations) was sold to a consortium of 57 railroads. In 1947 the reorganized Pullman Company sold off most of their sleeper and parlor car fleet to individual railroads. The Pullman Company retained a small pool of heavyweight sleepers available via lease for traffic surges. Most railroads quickly repainted the cars bought from the Pullman Company (lightweight and heavyweight) in their postwar schemes - typically with the railroad name centered on the letter board. If the railroad owned car was crewed and operated by the Pullman Company PULLMAN was displayed in small letters near the doors. Heavyweight cars in Pullman pool service retained PULLMAN on the letter board. Through the 1950’s and early 60’s Pullman pool sleepers could be found with bodies painted two tone gray, Tuscan red, or Pullman green. All Pullman Company leases and operations ceased in 1968, after which the railroads crewed the remaining sleeping cars.
Ed Rappe
What's a Madison car?
John
Madison car is a commonly used but incorrect model train enthusiast term (usually O Gauge) for steel heavyweight passenger cars.
It's origins date back to when Lionel first manufactured a model of a heavyweight car with the car name "Madison" on the side.
No one in the prototype world uses the term "Madison" when referring to heavyweights.
Rusty
I wonder is the Pullman Co ever named a car Madison?
All my Milwaukee books say the road did their own sleepers but what the heck. It's my railroad. I like the looks of a couple odd ball cars once in a while. Don
I wonder is the Pullman Co ever named a car Madison?
There is a fellow that developed a data base containing information on all Pullman cars constructed. The link is:
http://www.pullmanproject.com/Database.htm
A quick search of the database shows there was a car constructed named Madison. Plan 2410 (don't remember of the top of my head what floor arrangement this is), originally built 0ct 13, 1910. Originally painted PRR red, repainted to Pullman green 8/26/20, and then back to PRR red on 5/23/25. When the Pullman divestiture occurred in 1948 this car was transferred to PRR ownership but leased back to Pullman for operation. It was withdrawn from the lease on Jan 28, 1953 which I assume means it ceased revenue operation on that date.
Ken
All my Milwaukee books say the road did their own sleepers but what the heck. It's my railroad. I like the looks of a couple odd ball cars once in a while. Don
Seems to me I read somewhere that the Milwaukee would occasionally pick up some through sleepers from the Pennsy in Chicago. There might even have been a picture. If I remember where I saw it I will post more.
I'm looking for 15 inch Pullmans with the correct color. Once had a set of MTH's lettered Pullman but the color was definitely not Pullman green.
Lew Schneider
GGD offered an 8-1-2 series and 3rd Rail/Sunset offered a 12-1 series, both in Pullman Green with gold lettering for PULLMAN above the windows. American Standard kits may be cut to any length and painted any color. Jerry Williams offered the first 17" set of five heavyweight cars. An observation, three coach and a baggage car. Four lettered Pullman and the baggage car was Railway Express Agency. K-Line offered two 17 1/2 inch Pullman cars whose window arrangement resembled 8-1-2s. The third car was a diner with Pullman above the windows. First produced about 1998. Scale Coat offered a small rattle can - PULLMAN GREEN. Please keep in mind that a model railroad manufacturer may call a color Pullman Green but there is no guarantee it would match the Pullman Green which left the Pullman factory. Also, ballast and weather could change the 'look' of Pullman Green.
Pullman Pool 8-1-2 by 3rd Rail/Sunset
Pullman Pool 12-1 by GGD
Santa Fe observation car with sleeping accommodations by Williams
Santa Fe 12-1 Pullman sleeping car by GGD.
Pullman Pool one drawing room, 30 chair heavyweight car by Joe Fischer. Photos courtesy of Bill Davis at American Scale Models.
John in Lansing, ILL
Lew, what is your color reference for Pullman Green? I tried to match some MTH cars and tried Scalecoat, Poly Scale, Floquil, and Tru Color. None matched each other and none matched the MTH car.
Pete
Well, Lionel made these .... Not as fancy as the heavy weights above.
Steve
Initially, Pullman cars were colored brown. The company changed to green around 1900. As a retired UPS'er, I'm familiar with the story of how UPS adopted Pullman Brown as its now ubiquitous company brand. Here's a link to an article with an interesting tie-in to the Pullman Brown/Green story and UPS:
https://utahrails.net/pass/pullman-green.php
Bill
Just looked at some of my K-line Milwaukee Road cars and noticed in small lettering "Pullman". They are painted in Milwaukee colors but must be Pullman cars. Never noticed that before. Don
Those would have been cars owned by the Milwaukee but operated, crew, supplies and etc by Pullman personel
I have the 6 cars (4 +2) that mikey and Ed h. were talking about in their post. Only one of the cars says New York Central, the others are marked as Pullman. I bought these cars about the same time as I bought the vision line Hudson. They are very very sharp. For some reason, I don't think they sold that well.
mth made a set number 33-6238, 15" railking cars 2008 catalog. The train loft in winston salem nc and valley farm market in weedville pa may have them. I purchased a set a few years ago , nice details
@marker posted:I think both Lionel and MTH made Pullman car sets. I've had them both.
I had a set of Lionel passenger cars I think were made for the Commodore Vanderbuilt back in the late 90's. As I remember, all the cars were Pullman, the baggage car was NYC.
Pete is aware of the set.
scale rail - Your post above is why I bought the sets. I model the Santa Fe, but Pullmans ran on all lines. At the time there wasn't any Santa Fe heavyweights except for early K-Line cars with trucks that fell apart. The Pullman branded heavyweights filled the bill. The NYC baggage car would have modeled a transcontinental foreign head end car.
Santa Fe like most other roads always had head end from other roads, especially on secondary trains.
BTW That NYC set seems like it is always available and usually sells for less than other similar sets. The cars are very nice, but they have silhouette passengers, but they are easily changed.
I'm not sure about the dates, but something else, the observation was Pullman on the side, but the drumhead was NYC.
How would one go about replacing the silhouettes? Could they be converted to full interiors with passengers?
John
@lionelflyer posted:How would one go about replacing the silhouettes? Could they be converted to full interiors with passengers?
John
John, Replace the floor mounted light sockets with overhead lighting strips. Flatten the floor and place card stock(with the pattern of your choice for the carpet) to cover the holes. Add any interior you desire and replace the silhouette pieces with clear plastic. John in Lansing, ILL
Some Pullman cars carried the RR name. Was this after Pullman had to legally divest itself from actual car ownership (and just stay with the staffing and provisioning)?
@lionelflyer posted:How would one go about replacing the silhouettes? Could they be converted to full interiors with passengers?
John
If you already have these cars it might make sense to upgrade them. Not so much if you are thinking of buying cars with silhouettes and then upgrading them. Adding the seats and lighting would add up to way more than finding cars with seats and figures already. K-Line, MTH, and Lionel have all made 15” and 18” sets lettered for Pullman with interiors and figures. Lionel has included Pullman heavyweights with other cars lettered for Santa Fe and New York Central, likely other roads too.
The most economical route for 18” cars are the MTH cars made from around 2000-2005. These have interiors with overhead lighting but no figures. Easy enough to add just those.
Pete
@rattler21 posted:John, Replace the floor mounted light sockets with overhead lighting strips. Flatten the floor and place card stock(with the pattern of your choice for the carpet) to cover the holes. Add any interior you desire and replace the silhouette pieces with clear plastic. John in Lansing, ILL
Hi John,
Thanks for the reply. I was going to get rid of the cars that I have to get ones with interiors. I'm sure it is more economical to do as you suggest and reclaim these cars. Do you know if there is someone who sells pre-fab interiors that might fit?
John
Interiors are fairly easy to make. Scale City has a lot of interior parts. Northeastern scale lumber sells wood seats. Local hobby chain stores such as Michael's and Joanns sell wood, plastic, paper, and all kinds of cheap stuff you can use to build with. Hennings Trains sells the overhead light conversions.
I usually figure roughly $30.00 a car. A little expensive, but more unique than a molded plastic interior.
GGD (Sunset 3rd Rail) did heavy weight pullmans in the paint jobs for the RRs but lettered PULLMAN and in PUllman Green just lettered PUllman.
They did a !2-1 and I think an 8-1-2. The 12-1 is 12 sections and 1 drawing room. I think the 8-1-2 is 8 sections, one drawing room and 2 bedrooms.
These are full scale cars done in both 2 rail and 3 rail. There is a photo below.
And if you want to build your own model, you can still find Walthers Kits at train shows in both full scale and "Shorty" versions that you can build and paint letter specifically to your wants.
Also on the Walthers, you can easily find "junquers" at train shows that you can rebuild and repaint at very reasonable prices.
After reading this thread it seems that there are more Pullmans available than first thought. I have the set of Pullmans from the 90's Commodore Vanderbilt set, and I have always admired them. Silhouettes don't both me (after all, at this age I'm just a shadow of myself anyway). They are sturdy, well made and heavy.
I would think that passenger sets that match the cars to the engine would sell better. Also, making cars that you can run with any road name would be a disincentive to a manufacturer.
Alan
There were two pullmans by the way. Originally it was all one company until the government made them divest or split. One part operated the first class cars on the through trains. These cars were generally the sleepers and parlor cars. These were the accomodations that the more wealthy travelers used. The employees that staffed these cars worked for Pullman, not the RR. I think they still operated cars into the lightweight era. Pullman operated no coaches or baggage cars or mail cars. I am pretty sure they did not operate diners.
The second business they had was building cars. They built all kinds of cars I think even in the heavy weight era. In the lightweight/streamline era they built all sorts of things that included, coaches, diners, sleepers, baggage, mail etc. These cars were bought by the various RRs. Pullman had two major competitors that I am aware. The bigger one was Budd and the smaller I think was ACF. If you read the history of the building of the streamliners, you will often see Pullman or Budd listed at the builder of the train cars, and sometimes ACF.
So if you thinking of cars built by pullman, it could be lots of kinds of cars, but if you are thinking of the nice first class cars operated by Pullman, it should only be Sleepers and Parlour cars.
@prrjim posted:One part operated the first class cars on the through trains. These cars were generally the sleepers and parlor cars. These were the accomodations that the more wealthy travelers used. The employees that staffed these cars worked for Pullman, not the RR. I think they still operated cars into the lightweight era.
I was quite sure I'd seen Pullman cars from the lightweight era, and just checking real quickly, I found photos of steamlined Pullman cars operating on the Union Pacific and the Pennsylvania. They operated on other roads as well. Interestingly, the Pennsylvania photo I looked at was a Pullman observation car on a Fleet of Modernism train.
I just did a little research and found the first fleet of modernism cars were built for the PRR Flagship trains in 1928 - specifically the Broadway. the Pullman car operations was spun off to the RRs in 1947 and the last Fleet of Modernism design cars were built in 1949. In both cases the style of cars built seems to be sleepers and parlour-Lounge cars. The original observation cars in 1938 had sleeping compartments and observation lounge at the back.
@prrjim posted:I just did a little research and found the first fleet of modernism cars were built for the PRR Flagship trains in 1928
Sorry, 1938-48.
You are right, I read 1938 and missed typed my post as 1928. The article I read said the final 2 were built in 1949 however. But it was a Wiki article so those are open anyone can write whatever.
I'm intrigued that Pullman cars were green in the US. British Pullman cars were chocolate brown and cream
The cars (sleepers) for the Lackawanna’s Phoebe Snow were painted in the gray, yellow, maroon paint scheme, and were lettered for the Lackawanna, but had smaller “Pullman” lettering on the ends.Lionel painted one of these, the Eleazor Lord on their Phoebe Snow set.
@Rockershovel posted:I'm intrigued that Pullman cars were green in the US. British Pullman cars were chocolate brown and cream
Pullmans over here were largely the color Pullman Green for the entirety of the heavyweight era, and across nearly all railroads. When streamliners were introduced streamlined Pullmans escaped the green and went with the colors and livery of the host railroad and the train to which they were assigned. As @Artie-DL&W mentioned the Pullman name was redone in smaller letters and was moved to a position still on the sides of the car, but near the ends of the car, instead of large and in the middle.
Finally, as rail passenger service declined, and Pullman exited the business, these multicolored streamlined cars could be found, through reassignments, spread across other railroads and trains, at times even if the colors didn't match.
Mike
Lets just say the Pullman Company got real huffy when ATSF had Budd build the sleepers for the '37 Super Chief and refused to crew them. Pullman and ATSF negotiated and the '38 Super Chief had Pullman sleepers and everything else Budd. Add to that the CB&Q who continued to have Budd build their streamlined trains and crew the sleepers themselves. Pretty much all the railroads were ****ed at Pullman but they had so much power and influence few crossed them; except ATSF.
I've had the same lack of Pullman car gripe. If MTH made a new release of scale ones I'd jump all over them. But in the meantime I found a complete set of the Lionel Baby Madisons a couple of years ago and nabbed them. It may not be prototypical, but it's nice to leave a set of passenger cars on the layout and pull them with whatever power you have at hand.
@sinclair posted:I've had the same lack of Pullman car gripe. If MTH made a new release of scale ones I'd jump all over them. But in the meantime I found a complete set of the Lionel Baby Madisons a couple of years ago and nabbed them. It may not be prototypical, but it's nice to leave a set of passenger cars on the layout and pull them with whatever power you have at hand.
I believe Atlas now has the MTH heavyweight molds. Try emailing them. I asked about a 44 tonner and got a reply the next day.
I think MTH has done at least three sets of heavyweights lettered for Pullman and K-Line has done a set plus some single issues.
Pete
Golden Gate depot did a set of heavyweight cars in Pullman Green and TTG as well as the Pullman Standard smooth side streamlined cars that were also TTG.
As mentioned previously in this thread, outside of cars with sleeping compartments and dining cars the Pullman name in the letterboard is fantasy. Coaches and head end cars would have been lettered for the railroad. Of course there is the REA equipment for universal head end cars. However, I can see the appeal of a "generic" set of cars that one could run with any railroads locomotives.
@colorado hirailer posted:I have thought about getting some of the "Pullman" lettered cars I have seen, but
with modeling a short line, I am wondering how many shortlines in Beebe and Clegg's
"Mixed Train Daily", ever saw a Pullman car except at their Class 1 interchange...?
It was not unusual for a South Shore passenger train to have an 8-1-2 or 12-1 pool car in a train. California football fans could ride to a USC-Notre Dame game with the car routed SF-Chicago-C,SS,&SB-South Bend. The car would be spotted in South Bend and used for sleeping accommodations during the week-end then reverse route to California. John
@scale rail posted:Never understood why no one makes Pullman cars. They could run on almost any road so there would be a big market for them. Some should make them like K-line did with no road name, just Pullman. I've tried to find the K-line version at a reasonable price.
GGD's PULLMAN 8-1-2 WILD ROSE shown without trucks. John
Lionel and K-Line had Pullman cars, the Lionel ones had the more faded lettering.
@GG1 4877 posted:Golden Gate depot did a set of heavyweight cars in Pullman Green and TTG as well as the Pullman Standard smooth side streamlined cars that were also TTG.
As mentioned previously in this thread, outside of cars with sleeping compartments and dining cars the Pullman name in the letterboard is fantasy. Coaches and head end cars would have been lettered for the railroad. Of course there is the REA equipment for universal head end cars. However, I can see the appeal of a "generic" set of cars that one could run with any railroads locomotives.
Well I try to be prototypical but occasionally make compromises. I wanted to build a nice mail-express consist and went with a GGD Pullman baggage car to head the consist. The Remaining consist includes GGD, Atlas cars(and more Atlas and MTH cars available). This Pullman allow me to put ANY road name power on the point. 😜
After a choice of roads, I can add a road specific “storage mail” box car and a 53’ express Reefer and have a Really Cool mail-express consist. That Pullman car Really adds to the diversity of the consist.
Since the OP showed K-line's Semi-scale set, I would like to add some MTH 60' Railking Pullman cars that were not mentioned
4-car set: 30-69016 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS (mthtrains.com)
2-car set: 30-69017 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS (mthtrains.com)
add-on car: 30-69018 | MTH ELECTRIC TRAINS (mthtrains.com)
The cars were named after places in the Revolutionary War: Lexington, Bunker Hill, Trenton, Yorktown, Concord, Valley Forge, & Cowpens. I have all 7 cars and got an additional, add-on car which will be renamed "Connecticut Farms," a very overlooked battle which could have turned the tide of the war and caused the British to win.
Bryce
@Oscale_Trains_Lover_ posted:
I do not have any books that go into Pullman's history or color schemes for their sleepers and parlors, but I have not seen any pictures of this scheme with the stripes.
I am looking at buying one Pullman owned "Pullman Green" heavyweight sleeper used for lease service after 1945 to run with my PRR passenger trains. Anyone know the time frame Pullman painted their cars this way with the stripes? Thanks.
Lionel made Pullman Baby Madisons in a four pack in 1997. They were 12 1/4” long, with silhouettes. Product #6-19069, which might work for those with small layouts.
@GG1 4877 posted:Golden Gate depot did a set of heavyweight cars in Pullman Green and TTG as well as the Pullman Standard smooth side streamlined cars that were also TTG.
As mentioned previously in this thread, outside of cars with sleeping compartments and dining cars the Pullman name in the letterboard is fantasy. Coaches and head end cars would have been lettered for the railroad. Of course there is the REA equipment for universal head end cars. However, I can see the appeal of a "generic" set of cars that one could run with any railroads locomotives.
Jerry Williams led the parade of 'scale' size heavyweight five car sets with PULLMAN on the facia. The set consisted of three passenger cars, an observation car and, as Pullman did not make baggage cars, Jerry included this REA baggage car. The square on point logos are add ons. Seventeen inches over the sills. The set came in a white with black lettering card stock carton. They are few and far between. Cars were lighted except for the baggage car. John
The sleepers on the Lackawanna, and Erie Lackawanna, although painted grey, maroon, and yellow, had the road name above the windows, but smaller “Pullman” over near the doors.
@CAPPilot posted:I do not have any books that go into Pullman's history or color schemes for their sleepers and parlors, but I have not seen any pictures of this scheme with the stripes.
I am looking at buying one Pullman owned "Pullman Green" heavyweight sleeper used for lease service after 1945 to run with my PRR passenger trains. Anyone know the time frame Pullman painted their cars this way with the stripes? Thanks.
I looked through my books and did not find any pictures with the "stripes" paint scheme. Maybe this is MTH's artistic license at work?
Bryce
@Oscale_Trains_Lover_ posted:I looked through my books and did not find any pictures with the "stripes" paint scheme. Maybe this is MTH's artistic license at work?
Bryce
Bryce,
Thank you. I did another quick web search and did not see it either. As a fantasy scheme it is nice.
The stripes are fantasy on Pullman Green steel cars. There were stripes on the TTG Pullman lease pool cars.
Jonathan,
John's (Rattler21) photos of the TTG car above looks like a good candidate for my trains. Anything non-Tuscan. Probably very seldom, but would they have been seen on Pennsy trains after WWII?
@CAPPilot posted:John's (Rattler21) photos of the TTG car above looks like a good candidate for my trains. Anything non-Tuscan. Probably very seldom, but would they have been seen on Pennsy trains after WWII?
Yes. I saw them.
How many different manufacturers are we seeing here in your "old" video Ron? :-)
@rheil posted:Yes. I saw them.
To add to Bob's comment here is photo evidence: Pullman Pool Car on PRR Train
@rheil posted:Yes. I saw them.
@GG1 4877 posted:To add to Bob's comment here is photo evidence: Pullman Pool Car on PRR Train
Thank you! I have enough Pullman Green cars already, so now I am on the lookout for a TTG Pullman. Actually two, one 18" and one 20/21".
@CAPPilot posted:Thank you! I have enough Pullman Green cars already, so now I am on the lookout for a TTG Pullman. Actually two, one 18" and one 20/21".
I am also on the prowl for 20" TTG pullman steel 12-1 and 8-1-2 GGD sleepers for my pool cars. I wonder if it is time for another run of these cars?
@GG1 4877 posted:I am also on the prowl for 20" TTG pullman steel 12-1 and 8-1-2 GGD sleepers for my pool cars. I wonder if it is time for another run of these cars?
I’ve been asking Scott for a new run of heavyweight coaches to compliment his last heavyweight run (of I believe, observation, diner, RPO, and baggage). Perhaps a combined run of coaches and sleepers would get sufficient reservation numbers to make it happen.
I’d sure welcome it !!!
Email Scott and let him know !!!!
Cheers 🙂
@rattler21 posted:GGD two rail 12-1 is in the For Sale forum. John
I'll let Jonathan have it, if he wants since he is 2 rail. My question is how easy is it to go from 2 rail to 3 rail on these GGD heavyweights?
@rattler21 posted:
Jerry Williams led the parade of 'scale' size heavyweight five car sets with PULLMAN on the facia. The set consisted of three passenger cars, an observation car and, as Pullman did not make baggage cars, Jerry included this REA baggage car. The square on point logos are add ons. Seventeen inches over the sills. The set came in a white with black lettering card stock carton. They are few and far between. Cars were lighted except for the baggage car. John
I thought Pullman could have built bqggage cars, but they never operated them.
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