@Rusty Traque posted:That's because S Scalers don't have the variety available that the 3RS and 2RS folks have.
Rusty
Oh yeah, I get that. I guess my point was that in O, the hot topic is about the Geep 9; in S, it's the MTH F7. Both early- ish diesels. Hence, my comment about "classics"...
Mark in Oregon
I'm surprised no one suggested any Amtrak paint schemes. I've yet to see anybody do a scale prototypical model of them in O scale, or at least 3-rail.
@GG1 4877 posted:3 rail offerings often have all the hardware needed to convert to a Kadee coupler including the bracket, screws, and the couplers. Other than a few small screws that are occasionally fairly tight, it is an easy change from 3 rail to Kadee couplers. The ones I have done take about 15 minutes. In this run though, all mine are 2 rail.
L.O.L. speaking of "tight" was I the only one that had a really difficult time pulling out the foam cradle from the cardboard box? I swear that O.E.M. box was wrapped around its inner foam cradle tighter than a frog's AR$@! Talk about a "battle royal" to get out the foam without damaging the box!
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Umm. Bruck, was that battery in the unit or did you personally add it in?
Came with the battery.
Bruk.
For the upcoming SD40-2s (and future 3rd Rail offerings), it might be a good idea to not install a battery at the factory)
Would anyone have a pic of the Conrail GP?
Yes Mr. horseshoecurve, I wondered if anyone ripped their box in (Christmas morning-like) anticipation of the Treasure inside. I now have difinitive proof I have learned something in my adult years. Thanks push-pops!
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:L.O.L. speaking of "tight" was I the only one that had a really difficult time pulling out the foam cradle from the cardboard box? I swear that O.E.M. box was wrapped around its inner foam cradle tighter than a frog's AR$@! Talk about a "battle royal" to get out the foam without damaging the box!
The struggle was real.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:L.O.L. speaking of "tight" was I the only one that had a really difficult time pulling out the foam cradle from the cardboard box? I swear that O.E.M. box was wrapped around its inner foam cradle tighter than a frog's AR$@! Talk about a "battle royal" to get out the foam without damaging the box!
Have you tried upside-down on a padded surface such as a couch or bed?
@Lyle A posted:N&W GP9s
WOW! Those are great looking geeps.
@rplst8 posted:Interesting road number. 😈😯😂
💀💀! Wish I had that one. Inverted geep 9? Kinda.
@GG1 4877 posted:However, the phase III variation was a no go from the start for the first run because the factory gave so much push back on the the number of variations on this particular model at the price point they were sold at.
Jonathan,
Just how sure are you that those PH3's were a no go for this run?
Apparently my memory is not as it should be on work that was done in late 2019.
However are we really making it personal now? That's classy.
@GG1 4877 posted:Apparently my memory is not as it should be on work that was done in late 2019.
However are we really making it personal now? That's classy.
Jonathan, I think you are reading something into what he said. He asked you how sure you were, to which you provided a direct answer. How does that make it personal or merit your "That's classy" response? If anything I think you are the one that is making it personal from my 3rd party view.
Also fwiw... If you are going to take on the responsibility of a Product Manager on a product that is advertised to offer road specific details and those details are incorrect then you should expect questions like this IMHO.
I am beginning to think we’d all be better friends if these conversations were had in person, like at a train show, rather than on the internet. Being a John myself I can empathize with both the Jonathons 
While in most cases people do not intend for these comments to be personal attacks, they certainly come off that way at times.
Imagine having just spent an incredible amount of time helping advise on a massive production run and then getting run thru the cheese grater by a bunch of keyboard warriors the moment these things get delivered. There will always be mistakes on these and every other model, some worse than others. It does seem that was amplified by the complexity of this production which is understandable given all that was going on while it was happening and it’s size.
However, while Jonathon and Scott and everyone else involved were working their tails off to bring you all the very best... MTH was closing its doors, Atlas is still trying to make product from 5 years ago, and Lionel is too busy with fantasy paint schemes to make anything half accurate. If you aren’t happy with your 3rd rail models, the customer service remains first class. BUT If you chase off the people involved in the only worthwhile show in town then you will be left with nothing. You won’t even have a fence to sit on anymore.
I know people often intend to be helpful with their criticism but it does not always come off that way over an Internet forum.
@GG1 4877 posted:Apparently my memory is not as it should be on work that was done in late 2019.
However are we really making it personal now? That's classy.
Jonathan,
Well, I'm still the same classy guy I was when we Emailed about me buying late run E7's and PA's. No, my intention was not to make it personal, it was a literal question - I'm just truly surprised there is this much confusion on something as basic as which versions actually got produced.
I considered you to be an expert, back in 2019 when you Emailed me telling me I could not get a Ph3 NKP GP9 because only Ph2 was getting produced and also 2 days ago when you said they were a no go, but apparently here they are.
Perhaps that was blessing in disguise as I would have an additional 3 grand in NKP GP's all sitting here with missing handrail stanchions.
That is a fair statement. I will retract my comment. I will also exit this conversation as I have lost my ability to he objective at the moment. My apologies. I meant no disrepect towards anyone.
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