@Patrick B posted:I'm really tempted to add that US Military Railroad bobber to my list. Sure it's expensive and a piece of Civil War era equipment, but it would be a perfect companion to the Army 0-4-0....
I had my eye on that as well but there is zero chance of me spending $95 on a bobber caboose.
-Greg
Here's my take on the 2022 pricing and Lionel Catalog:
I've recently returned to the hobby after a few decades away. I'll be building a new layout this year and I know almost nothing about the new technology (TMCC, Legacy, etc..). Although I'm interested in the new Class A Vision steam engines I still need to back fill some things on my wish list ie Big Boy. I will probably wait until I have my new layout up and running to purchase anything big.
I'm looking at getting a few things to get started:
Does anyone know if any of the ore cars or hopper cars in this catalog are die-cast instead of plastic?
@ChooChoo1972 posted:Does anyone know if any of the ore cars or hopper cars in this catalog are die-cast instead of plastic?
I believe Ryan had said on the Train World video that they were plastic.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Okay, now I am more on the fence on which Class A I was thinking about getting. Why, well, I am sort of interested in what the heck "Commonwealth Trucks" are, and notably "cast pilot without after-cooler".
I guess that is the "after-cooler"? Sorry that is a little blurry. I am also guessing that the art work for all the Class A tenders are show with the extensions as they all look alike to me, even though some say extensions, others say commonwealth trucks. I'm curious, what does a Class A tender look like without extensions? Or is that just some more fiction going on there? Anyone care to educate me please or correct what Lionel is offering?
Yes, that is the "after-cooler". Later A's had them.
If you will look at the "Pilot" model photo, look at the very top of the coal bunker of the tender and those pieces sticking up are the extentions in order for the tender to hold more coal. No "fiction"!
The "Commonwealth" trucks will be the same trucks found on the Class J tender. The Y6b model has "Buckeye" trucks. Very different. Sorry, I don't have pictures here on my tablet to show the difference, but, you can look them yourself.
@Big Jim posted:Yes, that is the "after-cooler". Later A's had them.
If you will look at the "Pilot" model photo, look at the very top of the coal bunker of the tender and those pieces sticking up are the extentions in order for the tender to hold more coal. No "fiction"!
The "Commonwealth" trucks will be the same trucks found on the Class J tender. The Y6b model has "Buckeye" trucks. Very different. Sorry, I don't have pictures here on my tablet to show the difference, but, you can look them yourself.
Yeah, on the "Which Class A are you getting?" topic, I popped the pictures of the coal bunker as well as the dog houses on the tenders. The artist filled in the windows black on some of the models on the catalog, this making it hard to see what is going on. I forget all of what else I had posted over there, but someone else had also commented on the commonwealth trucks and buckeye trucks stated exactly what you said above Jim. Also, during the Train World video, Ryan credited those(in general) who took the time to point out differences like the cover over the turrets, as well as a few other things with the models. They remarked on this on the Class A part of the catalog which helped me decide that I will be getting 1211 model.
I ended up ordering the Louisville and Nashville vision horse car, the Amtrak veteran's NPCU, Amtrak station sounds diner, N&W hopper two pack (can't believe they didn't offer a six pack to go with the A), and the chapel car.
In a perfect world I would've liked a Class A, the Ski Train set, and the rocket train. The heritage ES44s are disappointing because it makes me think we're still at least a couple years out from having real ET44AC tooling in O scale and I'm sure everyone on this site is tired of hearing me beg for it.
When is the cutoff for the catalog? I thought someone had asked but don't remember seeing a date. Usually it is a month and a half after release.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:When is the cutoff for the catalog? I thought someone had asked but don't remember seeing a date. Usually it is a month and a half after release.
I've seen FEB 11th for a few dealers. I think I also spotted a FEB 14th.
Do you all think the cab3 bases will be available without having to preorder? I'm thinking I'd like one but not too sure enough at the moment to preorder. Sounds like they are a year out as it is.
Brad
@B rad posted:Do you all think the cab3 bases will be available without having to preorder? I'm thinking I'd like one but not too sure enough at the moment to preorder. Sounds like they are a year out as it is.
Brad
I think if you want to hold off they'll be around. Train World made it sound like they are ordering plenty. I think once the dealers see the demand they'll order accordingly.
@B rad posted:Do you all think the cab3 bases will be available without having to preorder? I'm thinking I'd like one but not too sure enough at the moment to preorder. Sounds like they are a year out as it is.
Brad
They will be available but if you pre order some dealers are offering some really good early discount incentives.
@johnstrains posted:I've seen FEB 11th for a few dealers. I think I also spotted a FEB 14th.
I would think Lionel might want to wait until after Feb 14 so hubbies have time to butter up the wives when the sticker shock hits.
@DaveSlie posted:They will be available but if you pre order some dealers are offering some really good early discount incentives.
Which Dealers? I have only seen the book price listed on the Base3
@Shawn_Chronister posted:Which Dealers? I have only seen the book price listed on the Base3
Also curious where or who is offering an incentive.
@Shawn_Chronister posted:Which Dealers? I have only seen the book price listed on the Base3
Tons of places. Legacy station preorder $400. Trainworld $439. Charles Ro $439. Marios Trains $459. Retail $499. Many many others offering preorder discounts as well.
Brad
Don't forget to support your local shop! Sometime paying a little more is worth it. The forum sponsors are great but when you need that bulb on a Saturday afternoon the LHS becomes invaluable.
@B rad posted:Tons of places. Legacy station preorder $400. Trainworld $439. Charles Ro $439. Marios Trains $459. Retail $499. Many many others offering preorder discounts as well.
Brad
Correct. Doesn't take too much of a search to find discounts. 
All of the above are great dealers ... plus note that Nassau Hobbies has the CAB3 for $399 pre-order.
And some dealers will even go lower than their online advertised prices if you call them, especially if you are ordering several items. 😎
@rthomps posted:All of the above are great dealers ... plus note that Nassau Hobbies has the CAB3 for $399 pre-order.
Hah! Not this one though. The dealer that goes and grabs some Menards beta locos and puts them up on the big auction site for double. 
( maybe they'll sneak in a $50 shipping charge on the cab 3)
No thanks. I'd rather pay MSRP at Ro, Trainworld, or Muffins.
@RickO posted:Hah! Not this one though. The dealer that goes and grabs some Menards beta locos and puts them up on the big auction site for double.
No thanks. I'd rather pay MSRP at Ro, Trainworld, or Muffins.
That's why I like Marios.
Guaranteed free shipping and no tax outside of their state.
Yea yea.. I know it's up to the buyer to pay the tax. How many times have I heard that one on this forum.
I'll be sure to do that because my wife is a CPA.
Whatever... Catch me if you can. 😄
I have ordered the TA&G 2-8-4 but will be surprised if it gets enough pre-orders to make with Chattanooga being the biggest city the TAG served. I am thinking this engine would look great with a train of the MOW wood passenger cars,but those prices will keep me from pre-ordering them.
I have ordered the S-2 set, an extra vista dome for my Santa Fe set and Base 3. All from Mario’s.
I was glad to see they had some Aberdeen, Carolina and Western finally. Albeit they aren't the SD-40-3's I was hoping for. It would have also have been nice, instead of offering the plain jane passenger cars, if they offered the canopy and patio cars that ACW has.
Sadly, I could cough up these things before I could afford to buy anything from this catalog.
Anthony
Cab3, Aberdeen Carolina & Western locomotive and passenger cars, Santa Fe Doodlebug
When Dave & Ryan did a video with Trainworld they mentioned that they may be offering some of the other cars for the Aberdeen Carolina & Western train. I think they had enough lead time to use existing tooling for the cars they are offering this time around and probably needed more lead time for the other more rare canopy and patio cars. My guess is that set will be so successful this time around they will offer the other cars later, knowing they will be a big hit.
@RickO posted:Hah! Not this one though. The dealer that goes and grabs some Menards beta locos and puts them up on the big auction site for double.
No thanks. I'd rather pay MSRP at Ro, Trainworld, or Muffins.
I've dealt with Nassau Hobbies for years (and years) - along with Ro, et. al. Never had an issue with the owners of Nassau; never had a problem with the product from Nassau.
I know nothing about your references -- but I assume, for your sake, that you can verify.
@rthomps posted:I know nothing about your references -- but I assume, for your sake, that you can verify.
Links to ebay sales are not allowed. Your welcome to search the Menards f 3.
You'll find a vendor from Freeport NY selling them for $350 plus shipping.
Click on "visit the store" and viola, Nassau Hobby....but what do I know?
@RickO posted:Links to ebay sales are not allowed. Your welcome to search the Menards f 3.
You'll find a vendor from Freeport NY selling them for $350 plus shipping.
Click on "visit the store" and Viola Nassau Hobby....but what do I know?
It's not my problem - it's yours. I have nothing in this except that Nassau has been a good shop to deal with.
And, who the heck is "Viola"?
I hope we can keep this thread going and open. Let's not go down the rabbit hole.
I wonder when the next Lionmaster LC+ 2.0 offering will come? I think I'm ready for a Challenger to go with my LC+ 2.0 Lionmaster Big Boy. Maybe volume 2?.......
Brad
@rthomps posted:It's not my problem - it's yours. I have nothing in this except that Nassau has been a good shop to deal with.
And, who the heck is "Viola"?
It's not my problem, it's theirs.
As far as "viola" ....well. If you don't know.. That's your problem.
OK OK, enough griping about dealers, right or wrong. Back to the original topic please. 
Par for the course for me...I'm not a Legacy guy so a few of the new Lion Chief Plus 2.0 items...
One of the Anniversary Amtrak Genesis locos (The Midnight Blue livery #100) and the Ma & Pa Doodlebug.
Contemplating a few more things.
@Will Ebbert posted:OK OK, enough griping about dealers, right or wrong. Back to the original topic please.
I did preorder one of the NYC 0-6-0s. Mth has some great tooling. Legacy equipped Mth locomotives, finally!
Play nice guys ... or "viola" ... topic closed and "poof".
I was looking at the coal hopper cars(GLA's) and saw these weren't diecast cars as past runs. I don't remember if the prior offerings of the GLA hoppers have been all diecast(in recent years), but I do know if they were, I ordered them. I'll have to look further at this as I may not order them just because of that. After all, who wants light cars(yeah, I know you can add weight to them) being pulled behind a beast like the Class A?
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I was looking at the coal hopper cars(GLA's) and saw these weren't diecast cars as past runs. I don't remember if the prior offerings of the GLA hoppers have been all diecast(in recent years), but I do know if they were, I ordered them. I'll have to look further at this as I may not order them just because of that. After all, who wants light cars(yeah, I know you can add weight to them) being pulled behind a beast like the Class A?
The GLA cars have only been done in plastic. The coal load is removable so I just put rocks in mine to add weight.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I was looking at the coal hopper cars(GLA's) and saw these weren't diecast cars as past runs. I don't remember if the prior offerings of the GLA hoppers have been all diecast(in recent years), but I do know if they were, I ordered them. I'll have to look further at this as I may not order them just because of that. After all, who wants light cars(yeah, I know you can add weight to them) being pulled behind a beast like the Class A?
Dave, you might be thinking of the die-cast offset hoppers. They are some of the finest scale rolling stock Lionel has ever made.
I stalked the internet for a cabbage unit all last year. It took a bit of strength to ignore one I saw on eBay earlier this week. I let it go because I reserved the Lionel Downeaster variant last week! My plan was to find the original cabbage and have it custom painted. I'm telling myself I saved money.
I also ordered some F40s. I'm going to sell off my MTH F40s. I'm a fan of kinematic pilots.
@Rider Sandman posted:Dave, you might be thinking of the die-cast offset hoppers. They are some of the finest scale rolling stock Lionel has ever made.
Yes, the offsets are diecast, and I do have quite a bit of them. Like I said, I don't remember if I did order GLA's before. Hard to say. What do you think about them?
Well, I went and saw Tony at my local train store and put in my order for the 1945 1211 Class A, the Black River & Western set as well as the 2 GLA Hopper packs for the Pennsylvania and Norfolk and Western Railroads. Nothing else is a bite for me.
I've been waiting for Lionel to produce Amfleets again for a long time! Happy to see a cab car being offered again as well. Picking up the following from this catalog:
Very excited for these to come in!
I think I will also be ordering the N&W class A 1211 to go along with the new base3 I already ordered. Still making a decision on CSX f40 and Es44 1775
I’m thinking F40PH and a Cabbage unit. Anyone know if the AMFLEETs are scale? If not, does anyone make scale AMFLEETs?
@Roberto Sanchez 111918 posted:I’m thinking F40PH and a Cabbage unit. Anyone know if the AMFLEETs are scale? If not, does anyone make scale AMFLEETs?
They are not full scale. GGD does offer scale sized Amfleets.
@Roberto Sanchez 111918 posted:I’m thinking F40PH and a Cabbage unit. Anyone know if the AMFLEETs are scale? If not, does anyone make scale AMFLEETs?
They are 18ish inches long, which does look pretty good but not to scale.
Note that they do not match up nicely with other brands' Amfleets.
If you are looking for a cab car, Lionel makes the only model available, so plan on buying Lionel Amfleets too.
Your train's Amfleets should be all one brand, but any Amfleets look fine with other brands' other rolling stock.
For example, I have MTH Amfleets running with Golden Gate Viewliners.
Frankly, I prefer MTH and GGD Amfleets, but I really wanted that cab car.
Here is a comparison of Lionel and MTH Amfleets (Lionel left)
Some Metra f40s would have been nice to see, reading & northern f units for me so far, maybe Amtrak phase 3 passenger cars too.
@CharmCityAirLine posted:They are 18ish inches long, which does look pretty good but not to scale.
Note that they do not match up nicely with other brands' Amfleets.
If you are looking for a cab car, Lionel makes the only model available, so plan on buying Lionel Amfleets too.
Your train's Amfleets should be all one brand, but any Amfleets look fine with other brands' other rolling stock.
For example, I have MTH Amfleets running with Golden Gate Viewliners.
Frankly, I prefer MTH and GGD Amfleets, but I really wanted that cab car.
Here is a comparison of Lionel and MTH Amfleets (Lionel left)
That is good to know. I had figured MTH(Atlas) AMFEET would be the same dimension as Lionel AMFLEET. I’ll have to take a look at Golden Gate Depot.
I’m just starting out my fleet and knowing myself, I’ll notice my 21” streamliner passenger cars are longer than my AMFLEETs. Especially when running together. I know it’s not prototypical, but my “happiness” mixes modern electrics sharing the right of way with early diesels and steam power. It’s all about where you draw the line. 😁
You'll have to be patient for the GGD cars as the next run is probably a couple years out, but I assure you the wait will be worth it. I have three Viewliner cars from the previous run and regret not buying more.
Already Preordered:
Base 3
Amtrak F40PH Phase V Livery NPCU (side note-love these cab units. They're not just great for push-pull with the powered F40ph units with which they can pair. They're great for push-pull with any Amtrak TMCC equipped or Legacy loco(I assume conventional, too), which is great because the NPCU is typically in push-pull with a Genesis(now offered by Lionel in traditional size) and the Dash 8 which Lionel offered scale versions of in Phase III Pepsi Can and Phase IV liveries.
Amtrak F40PH Phase IV Livery Powered Unit
Still Deciding on if I'll buy a freight unit from this offering. If I do, it will be one of the following:
RS-27 Penn Central, C&NW or SOO
SD90MAC Norfolk Southern(UP patched)
A Lionel Lines Legacy SD90MAC.
So the ones that actually are ordering or have ordered what are you getting?
I ordered the UP Rocket Booster train. Exceptional value for the number of cars + a Legacy engine (that is, if you're into modern trains actually carrying rocket parts). Decided to pass on Class A post-WWII -- not that I don't think it will be great, but that's a lot of train dollars that can purchase other things.
They sucked me in, I'm in for the UP Rocket Booster Train. 
That and the Legacy A-5 switcher fills out my new train dance card. I'm still saving money for the Strasburg #90 that I have queued up from the previous catalog! 
I really wanted the Quilling Pigs but I can't bring myself to spend $400 on a pig. I'm just going to get the vision line # 9999. JP
I ended up just settling for the Amtrak Phase V NPCU and the Woodside Chapel Car.
Between the Acela in the 2021 V1 catalog, and 90 in the V2 catalog, plus all of the other special announcements, my wallet needed a break.
Yep, $450 for one sound car and a couple of extra empty cars is over the top for me!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:They sucked me in, I'm in for the UP Rocket Booster Train.
I think that is an excellent choice!
I ended up with just the Aberdeen Carolina and Western F Units and heavyweights. I thought about some others (the other ACWR cars, rocket train, a couple of the Atlantics), but since I also have a 3rd Rail P42 (Metro North) and a bunch of the Atlas Comet cars (also Metro North) on order, I decided that was more than enough for one year.
I went for the Base 3, decided it was time to move to legacy control. Between that and the ZW-L I'm searching for; I should be set up to run my postwar and new stuff I want to expand into.
Seems like all I'm getting is the US Army 0-4-0 and the Railway Cannon. That CSX F40ph is super tempting but I would only be getting one of the engines and all of my other engines and rolling stock are traditional sized so that probably wouldn't work out all too well. At least the 4 wheeler is already a small engine so that should blend in """fine""".
Powered and dummy Illinois Central Heritage ES44AC. Have a concern of them being cancelled after Sunset canceled the IC Death Star SD40-2.
I have a few things already preordered from the new Catalog!
- The Vision Line Norfolk & Western Class A #1210 WW2 Era version
- The Vision Line Pennsylvania Railroad “What If” Class A #3701, an exclusive run for MrMuffin’sTrains
- The Legacy Reading & Northern F9 AB unit set
- The Legacy CN Heritage BC Rail ES44AC #3115
- The Legacy Canadian National Veterans ES44AC #3015
- The Canadian National Veterans Bay Window Caboose
"I really wanted the Quilling Pigs but I can't bring myself to spend $400 on a pig"
$330 plus shipping from Charles Ro on pre-order. Not too bad for a sound car and two other freight cars these days. Couldn't resist the NYC stock car quilling pig at this price.
Pulled the trigger on the LC+2.0 Genesis Set, and the LC+2.0 NYC Hudson. And a few add-on cars for the LC Super Chief set that I bought around Christmas.
I will expand my fleet into the southern region of the U.S.
@Landsteiner posted:"I really wanted the Quilling Pigs but I can't bring myself to spend $400 on a pig"
$330 plus shipping from Charles Ro on pre-order. Not too bad for a sound car and two other freight cars these days. Couldn't resist the NYC stock car quilling pig
"What price beauty?" said the famous writer.
@N&WGuy posted:I have a few things already preordered from the new Catalog!
- The Vision Line Norfolk & Western Class A #1210 WW2 Era version
- The Vision Line Pennsylvania Railroad “What If” Class A #3701, an exclusive run for MrMuffin’sTrains
- The Legacy Reading & Northern F9 AB unit set
- The Legacy CN Heritage BC Rail ES44AC #3115
- The Legacy Canadian National Veterans ES44AC #3015
- The Canadian National Veterans Bay Window Caboose
Will the safety valve steam be moved away from the whistle steam so it doesn’t blend together? Or think it would take away from the accuracy of the train too much?
@Robert Cushman posted:Will the safety valve steam be moved away from the whistle steam so it doesn’t blend together? Or think it would take away from the accuracy of the train too much?
Safety valve steam is supposed to come out of safety valves, just as whistle steam is supposed to come out of whistles. Anywhere else is wrong.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Safety valve steam is supposed to come out of safety valves, just as whistle steam is supposed to come out of whistles. Anywhere else is wrong.
Rusty
I know that, my point was that they’re basically on top of each other.
@Robert Cushman posted:I know that, my point was that they’re basically on top of each other.
So, where should they move whistle steam? Under the bell?
For the money these things cost, locomotive appliances should be in their proper locations. Particularly as others have talked about getting other details correct for particular Class A's.
Rusty
@Robert Cushman posted:I know that, my point was that they’re basically on top of each other.
I don’t think it’ll be too big of an issue since the safety valve steam effect won’t be constantly on. I have a Legacy Pennsylvania S1 duplex with the safety valve effects on it and it only randomly pops off every once in awhile. The effect itself once on last for about 20 or 30 seconds before shutting off again.
@Rusty Traque posted:So, where should they move whistle steam? Under the bell?
For the money these things cost, locomotive appliances should be in their proper locations. Particularly as others have talked about getting other details correct for particular Class A's.
Rusty
No I like it in the correct spot. I’d just rather have cylinder steam.
This video is why I say that it literally pours out of the cylinders.
Pulled the trigger and ordered the CNW Berk. Next, the wife will pull the trigger on me
@N&WGuy posted:I don’t think it’ll be too big of an issue since the safety valve steam effect won’t be constantly on. I have a Legacy Pennsylvania S1 duplex with the safety valve effects on it and it only randomly pops off every once in awhile. The effect itself once on last for about 20 or 30 seconds before shutting off again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=satRPEonEvQ
32.40 on this video is the safety valve effect. It’s very cool.
@cnw4ever posted:Pulled the trigger and ordered the CNW Berk. Next, the wife will pull the trigger on me
You don’t have to pay for it for a year. Start siphoning a little cash here and there and keep it aside until this delivers this way you don’t have to put the whole thing on the CC. 😜
Finally settled on one of the Amtrak Phase 3 F40PH's and one of the Phase 4 Cabbages.
Do they match? NOPE. But I like these schemes most.
I missed out on the first run of these in 2016, and after missing out on most of the second run of the B6sb Switchers in 2020 among other locomotives, I'm not letting the same happen again.
I would've liked to preorder more like one of the Berks and the Black River set, but funds right now aren't permitting. I still have the Strasburg no. 90 on order, anyways.
I ordered these 64' Woodsided Passenger cars. I have way too many but I'm addicted to them.
I find the Chapel car very interesting and think it rather funny that the MOW set has an observation car:
I bought more than I initially thought I would. I pre ordered both of Mr Muffins NKP custom runs (Atlantic and Harry Painted 0-6-0). I also ordered a Class A 1218, a PRR 0-4-0, phase 3 f40ph, and the swift vision line stock cars. Oh! And I decided to take a leap and get the base 3
Much more than I expected, but I talked myself into the class A after I got a great deal on some older NS excursion cars.
the lionchief csx dash 8 is the only thing i'm getting
although i really wanted something scale like the Norfolk Southern 40th Anniversary set but i can't afford it or run it with my current situation
so i have to pass on the NS
@paigetrain, I think you’ll enjoy the dash 8 when you get it. Glad you’re able to pick up a new engine!
I hhad hoped they would have offered one in the Amtrak livery. The LC dash 8 would be a good size for the RailKing cars and tighter curves.
Well I went with the base 3 the AC&W F9 and 2 pk heavyweight cars, csx 2 pk heavyweight cars csx f40ph #1 armed forces es44 2022 and cp 7020.
@2012ford posted:Well I went with the base 3 the AC&W F9 and 2 pk heavyweight cars, csx 2 pk heavyweight cars csx f40ph #1 armed forces es44 2022 and cp 7020.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been much mention of the CSX business train. I thought that was a really cool item and I would have preordered some of it if I had a scale/legacy size layout.
Just ordered the yellow F7 AA Union Pacific diesel set. Was trying to decide between that and the purple A.C. &W F9 AB set with the superbass B unit.
@GregK posted:I’m surprised there hasn’t been much mention of the CSX business train. I thought that was a really cool item and I would have preordered some of it if I had a scale/legacy size layout.
I really thought about it, but I decided that I'd rather have the ACWR business train.
@PSM posted:I really thought about it, but I decided that I'd rather have the ACWR business train.
I went with that train as well. I live 2 hours north of that railroad and that livery is guaranteed to be a real crowd pleaser along the lines of the SP Daylight.
Ordered the Visionline Class A Number 1238. Fingers are crossed that all of the corrections will be made.
Figured I'd ask, when does Lionel (usually) announce which items are getting canned? I'm hoping my first crack at a BTO locomotive doesn't end with a "cancelled due to low orders" email.
Well, I guess I have to order something or I would not be in this hobby. I always buy from sommerfelds in Butler, WI(Milw). Always fair and they do repairs. Ordered two of each of GBW rs27. I know they are MTH tooling, which I had one of but at least now I can run with the Legacysystem. Still looking at a few other items but these are the top of the list. Hope with having tooling already maybe Lionel will be able to turn some of these faster(ha ha).
I pulled the trigger on the Amtrak 6 car Phase III Heritage set. Skipped the diner as I'm not interested in the sounds but will pick up a K-Line or equivalent and get it painted to match. Now I have most of what I am looking for on a circa 1990 Broadway Limited. Still need the baggage / dorm, but I have a donor car that is close with some rework and I am patiently waiting on GGD 2nd run Slumbercoaches.
After picking up the diner (no sound) / coach ATSF expansion set to complete my Santa Fe #42 / 47 I was impressed with the overall build quality of the cars. That was what put me over the top as this is my first Lionel pre-order.
I ended up going with the Canadian National Veterans ES44AC #3015 and the matching Canadian National - Bay Window Caboose. I also decided to get two of the Canadian Pacific Veteran SD90Mac units, CP #7020 (Army/Solid Green) and CP #7023 (Air Force/Grey on Grey). I already have a MTH Premier CP #7021 (Army/Desert). I am very interested to see how the Lionel versions compare to the MTH in regards to the CP Veteran units.
@NS1975 posted:I ended up going with the Canadian National Veterans ES44AC #3015 and the matching Canadian National - Bay Window Caboose. I also decided to get two of the Canadian Pacific Veteran SD90Mac units, CP #7020 (Army/Solid Green) and CP #7023 (Air Force/Grey on Grey). I already have a MTH Premier CP #7021 (Army/Desert). I am very interested to see how the Lionel versions compare to the MTH in regards to the CP Veteran units.
I'm getting four of the CP military tribute locomotives. I think they are a big hit for Lionel.
First post on OGR - been out of the hobby for awhile but man this catalog dragged me back in.
Preordered the WWII Class A #1210 and the UP Solid Rocket Booster Train. I work at the Cape so that one was a must have!
It probably won’t be long until the Desert Victory SD40-2 grows on me enough to pick that one up too.
Put my order in for a CAB 3, a few of the new coil cars and a Canadian Pacific Heritage SD90MAC # 7010, although the CP military units look great.
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