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I'm converting some lionel die cast husky stack car to 2 rail.  Is there anything I need to know?  My plans are atlas roller bearing trucks, metal kadee couplers.  The conversion is rather easy, but it did notice sparks coming between the rails and wheels.  Resulting in my power supply acting up.  Kinda stumped! Any advise?

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Forum archives don't go back far enough.  This conversion was from 2008.  About 25 were done in factory style production workflow.  Bulk pack of 100 NWSL 33" steel .145 wheel sets for Lionel spinners.  Fastest way to convert was disassemble, dremel and drill-holes for Kadee.  NWSL wheels were double insulated so no need to worry about metal gearbox/plastic coupler or metal coupler/plastic gearbox.  All I have to say is that the HO guys have it good.  They have proper prototypes AND they don't need to convert.  How nice would it be to have a 3 unit 53' TrinityRail or Maxi-Stack IV or 5 unit 40' articulated TTX car. 

 

My photos no longer work, here is a link to the album.  

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I've had no issues with using Atlas trucks and Kadee couplers.  I tend to tap the truck mounting hole for 4-40 screws and attach the Atlas trucks to the bottom of the car with a 4-40 screw. 
 
I then drill and tap 2-56 holes in the mounting pad area, trim some MicroMark shims, or use some styrene to level out the mounting pad area and bring the coupler to the correct height. 
 
If you want I can take some photos and outline the steps.   Michael's process also works as noted below.
 
Originally Posted by Budkole:

I'm converting some lionel die cast husky stack car to 2 rail.  Is there anything I need to know?  My plans are atlas roller bearing trucks, metal kadee couplers.  The conversion is rather easy, but it did notice sparks coming between the rails and wheels.  Resulting in my power supply acting up.  Kinda stumped! Any advise?

 

If you uncouple the car from any other cars do you still see sparks? If you take the couplers off the car do you still see sparks?
 
I assume you're using the 100ton Atlas trucks right now?  Are the wheel flanges touching any part of the car?
 
Originally Posted by Budkole:
So, you all think that changing the couplers should fix the problem? ....in theory of course

Frank

 

Ok, been troubleshooting for the better part of 3 hrs.  I am using atlas 100 ton trucks but also have 70t as well.  Interestingly I have found that the newer thinner atlas trucks are sparking when I just let them roll freely unmounted!  But the older thicker sided truck don't spark at all.  So I opened a new pack of the newer thinner trucks, same thing sparks.  Next I opened a set of the new old stock thicker sided trucks, and you guessed it, no sparks.  Unless I'm missing something, the newer atlas trucks are not insulated properly.

Originally Posted by Mike DeBerg:
If you uncouple the car from any other cars do you still see sparks? If you take the couplers off the car do you still see sparks?
 
I assume you're using the 100ton Atlas trucks right now?  Are the wheel flanges touching any part of the car?
 
Originally Posted by Budkole:
So, you all think that changing the couplers should fix the problem? ....in theory of course

Frank

 

I did change the couplers to plastic box/metal knuckle and vice versa.

 

no sparks on the thicker sided trucks

plenty of sparks with thinner sided trucks

wheel flanges not rubbing

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