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Well fans of MWM my post today is about a train that is near its 100th anniversary.  This American Flyer clockwork set dates to 1923 or 24.  The set includes the engine, a Type XI , catalog number 16, clockwork locomotive and tender, a coach and a baggage car plus track.  The railway, iaw our theme of Midwest Monday, is the Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Paul Railway although the coach is named "1206 Seattle 1206" under the window.

Here is the set as you might have opened it on Christmas nearly 100 years ago.  Clockwork so no "dangerous" electricity to worry Mom and confound Dad!  As I obtained it, the set only had straight track, which is unlikely to be original as almost all sets came with a loop.  It had quite a bit of straight but no curved, so somewhere in the last century, it has lost some track.

American Flyer type 16 loco set box

Here is the full consist.  Note that the key is permanent so it can't get lost (thank goodness).  Your question might be...does it work?  The answer is Yes...sort of.  Unlike some of my much more sophisticated Hornby clockwork engines , it has no governor for speed control and no reverse so its pretty much a wind up and let go type engine.

American Flyer type 16 loco and train [2)

Here are the two cars that came in the set.  A coach, named "Seattle" and a baggage / RPO.  

American Flyer type 16 loco consist 1205 and 1206

Here is a close up of the 1923-1926, American Flyer, mighty # 16 clockwork steam engine.

American Flyer type 16 A.F. 16 loco 1923-26

I have some information that this might be a #15 outfit or set which was a cheaper version of the #16, the principal difference between them was that the #16 had two coaches.  The reference data I have says that there was never an 1206 observation car lettered for the Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Paul - although in 1924 there was a 1206 "American Flyer Lines" observation.

Well here is hoping you have a great week.  Best Wishes

Don

Don thanks for sharing your timeless Antique train you never seem to amaze me with these trains

Well here we are in "Midwest Monday" but there seems to have been no postings since @DETROIT posted last Tuesday !  So here I go bucking the trend and trying to keep our "day of the week" thread going.  I will admit that I like to post to these and look at the other postings its grand fun.

Today, I am sticking close to home and posting a car that has strong links to our current state of residence, Texas.  Wait a minute you ask, Texas isn't in the mid west?  Oh no...well in fact Waco, Texas  where we live is certainly in the west and it could not get too much more "mid" than to be here.   Waco is 1125 miles West of Savannah, Georgia and the Atlantic ocean and 1335 miles East of San Diego and the Pacific ocean. We are 179 miles North of the key location for this car...the "Alamo" in San Antonio the site of the famous battle in the Texas war for independence.  So I am going to define (at least for today) that Texas is in the "mid-west".

This car was the registration car for the LCCA convention in Dallas, Texas in 2011 which I attended.  It really is an excellent car, very robust and quite well decorated.  It carries the number 1836 which is in fact the year of the battle of the Alamo.

So Midwest Monday fans, here is the Lionel Alamo remembrance car  (i.e the famous battle cry..."Remember the Alamo").

Lionel Alamo Mint side viewLionel Alamo MInt quarter view

For reasons I am not sure about, the picture below seems to render the car in grey...that is just the photo.  The color is much closer to the two earlier pictures, sort of a very light brown or even cream.

Lionel Alamo Mint on box

The cannon window and the decoration showing the dates of the famous battle.  The flag is the Texas state flag..."The Lone Star State".

Lionel Alamo Mint cannon window

The ammunition.  Note the picture in the upper left is of the actual building, the Alamo was a Spanish mission which was already a partial ruin  and inactive from a religious standpoint in 1836.  Today it has been restored, so to speak, to its condition in 1836 and stabilized from environmental damage.  The little circle in the lower left says..."Registration and 11 in the middle".

Lionel Alamo Mint cannon ball windowLionel Alamo Mint box end legend

Well I hoped you enjoyed this visit to what I have defined as the "middle" west

Best wishes for a great week

Don

Sorry I missed this one Don I like that cannon

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@lee drennen :  Lee great to hear from you again.  I hope all has been well and you are just busy with that "hobby" farm of yours.  I lived many years in Ohio so I know how hard farmers work, so that must be a tough "hobby".    Thanks for your comments, they always make me feel great and I really like that you appreciate my (and others) postings.

Best Wishes

Don

@lee drennen :  Lee great to hear from you again.  I hope all has been well and you are just busy with that "hobby" farm of yours.  I lived many years in Ohio so I know how hard farmers work, so that must be a tough "hobby".    Thanks for your comments, they always make me feel great and I really like that you appreciate my (and others) postings.

Best Wishes

Don

Your welcome Don. We are Blessed to have someone like you that has so much information of the Model Railroad past. I’ve been busy at work and I’m just exhausted when I get home after my chores on my Little Hobby Farm. I don’t think I’m going to put out a big garden this year it’s just too much for me. I hope to get more post done soon. Thanks

I think the Milwaukee Road qualifies as Midwest. After track and transformer maintenance on the Twin Pines RR, ran a "new for me" K-Line F3 A-B-A set with MTH Hiawatha passenger cars. For an engine which is circa 2000, it has decent details, has a working Mars light and the pilot, although not fixed, has very little gap. Future project is to remove the lead coupler and make a set of doors to cover the opening.

I run this TMCC engine through the MTH app on an Samsung Android pad. Since it does not seem to have cruise, you can see the speed difference. The first part of the video has the consist going up grade. The second half is running flat. Odd thing about the app - I have to move the throttle up to 2/3 speed just to get this engine moving. I am really spoiled with the MTH engines with their efficient motors and crawling speed. Barely need to move the throttle.  The pad just does not capture video very well. 

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I think the Milwaukee Road qualifies as Midwest. After track and transformer maintenance on the Twin Pines RR, ran a "new for me" K-Line F3 A-B-A set with MTH Hiawatha passenger cars. For an engine which is circa 2000, it has decent details, has a working Mars light and the pilot, although not fixed, has very little gap. Future project is to remove the lead coupler and make a set of doors to cover the opening.

I run this TMCC engine through the MTH app on an Samsung Android pad. Since it does not seem to have cruise, you can see the speed difference. The first part of the video has the consist going up grade. The second half is running flat. Odd thing about the app - I have to move the throttle up to 2/3 speed just to get this engine moving. I am really spoiled with the MTH engines with their efficient motors and crawling speed. Barely need to move the throttle.  The pad just does not capture video very well.

WOW Jeff, nice looking set up! But I do have to say your train sure is hauling butt! LOL I don't think I have ever ran any of my trains that fast!

Lee - great video.  I took a minute to scroll back through our forum and I think we have the best I have seen.  The guys who post in this forum represent just about ever aspect of O gauge/scale trains (also some S scale).  Pre-war, post war, O27, semi-scale, scale, (real trains) simple layouts, complex it's really outstanding week after week. Often educational Don.  It's fun and great to be part of it!!!

Detroit - All I can say is that it's sure going to take a lot of pancakes to use up all that syrup .  Lee neat video - don't think you have showed your RSD 12 very much, neat engine and seems a smooth runner.

Well my contribution today concerns the Minneapolis and St. Louis Railway.  This was a granger that ran in the states of Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, and South Dakota. It lived on providing economical shipping rates to farmers for agricultural products.   Its maximum track mileage was around 1700 miles and it lasted from 1870 until 1960 when it was finally eclipsed by competition.  Sad to say, despite its name, it never reached St. Louis and its main terminal stop was in Peoria, Ill in fact the RR has the slogan..."The Peoria Gateway".  That slogan is part of the livery of both cars and those words are contained in the circle you see on the sides.

First just the bay window caboose.  This is a Lionel (MPC) #9271 from 1978

Lionel M&SL caboose side

Now the caboose with my M&StL boxcar also a Lionel (MPC) # 9775 from 1976

Lionel M&SL caboose and boxcar frontLionel M&SL caboose and boxcar rear

Lee in your video I noted a M&StL boxcar but it appears to have a different livery.  Both the car and the caboose came to me via e-bay relatively recently, the caboose in Feb and the boxcar last summer so they are new to me. Both, despite their age, arrived in LN condition and still in their original box...so I guess I might be the first guy running them...cool!!

Best wishes to everyone, have a great week.

Don

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@DETROIT posted:

Lee - great video.  I took a minute to scroll back through our forum and I think we have the best I have seen.  The guys who post in this forum represent just about ever aspect of O gauge/scale trains (also some S scale).  Pre-war, post war, O27, semi-scale, scale, (real trains) simple layouts, complex it's really outstanding week after week. Often educational Don.  It's fun and great to be part of it!!!

Jim thanks I’m glad you enjoy this thread I really enjoy it also sorry for being absent for a bit but life gets in the way sometimes. I enjoy the regulars here You Don and the Master of the White Worm Tom D. Thanks all for this going.

Detroit - All I can say is that it's sure going to take a lot of pancakes to use up all that syrup .  Lee neat video - don't think you have showed your RSD 12 very much, neat engine and seems a smooth runner.

Well my contribution today concerns the Minneapolis and St. Louis Railway.  This was a granger that ran in the states of Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, and South Dakota. It lived on providing economical shipping rates to farmers for agricultural products.   Its maximum track mileage was around 1700 miles and it lasted from 1870 until 1960 when it was finally eclipsed by competition.  Sad to say, despite its name, it never reached St. Louis and its main terminal stop was in Peoria, Ill in fact the RR has the slogan..."The Peoria Gateway".  That slogan is part of the livery of both cars and those words are contained in the circle you see on the sides.

First just the bay window caboose.  This is a Lionel (MPC) #9271 from 1978

Lionel M&SL caboose side

Now the caboose with my M&StL boxcar also a Lionel (MPC) # 9775 from 1976

Lionel M&SL caboose and boxcar frontLionel M&SL caboose and boxcar rear

Lee in your video I noted a M&StL boxcar but it appears to have a different livery.  Both the car and the caboose came to me via e-bay relatively recently, the caboose in Feb and the boxcar last summer so they are new to me. Both, despite their age, arrived in LN condition and still in their original box...so I guess I might be the first guy running them...cool!!

Best wishes to everyone, have a great week.

Don

Don it’s always a pleasure to see you posting. I wish the M&STL came to St. Louis. My car is a Weaver and I have that cat you have. To be honest I like the O27 car better.

Well I can echo Detroit and say..."How about a little Rock Island"?

Here is the Marx Rock Island # 799 GE 70 Ton offered between 1959-1965.  The Marx Rock Island #147815 box car from 1952-1959 and the #17858 4 wheel Rock Island caboose.

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And here is our switcher with the Lionel (LTI)  # 16519 Rock Island Transfer Caboose from 1990

RI Transfer caboose 2RI Transfer Caboose 3

Best wishes for a great week.

Don

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Well I can echo Detroit and say..."How about a little Rock Island"?

Here is the Marx Rock Island # 799 GE 70 Ton offered between 1959-1965.  The Marx Rock Island #147815 box car from 1952-1959 and the #17858 4 wheel Rock Island caboose.

RI Switcher 1-editRI Switcher 2-edit

And here is our switcher with the Lionel (LTI)  # 16519 Rock Island Transfer Caboose from 1990

RI Transfer caboose 2RI Transfer Caboose 3

Best wishes for a great week.

Don

Always a pleasure looking at your pics. Thanks for sharing

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