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Recently, I was finally able to snag a couple of CHICAGO GREAT WESTERN NW2s (30-2295-1) on the Bay.  This was a remarkable find for which the kind folks at eBay have been helping me search for years.  The units (1 pwrd, 1 non-pwd) were sold "as is" and that was fine, I'm just glad I got 'em.

When I track tested the powered unit, No. 26, the sound was all messed up.  I used a Lionel transformer, not a TIU, to do the test.  I let it charge for quite a while; tried again; it flunked; then replaced the battery pack with a B-thing (can't remember the ^&$#$$&* acronym) and achieved the same result - no change.

After a major cleaning, service and Kadeeing, no change.  Brought it in from the shop, tried it on the TIU, and everything (whistle, horn and coupler sounds) functioned beautifully - except the engine sounds.  The sound is there - sort of - but its very, very low.  I've checked all the sound settings on the hand-held and on the locomotive; all function perfectly - except the engine sounds.

I've searched the Forum database and have found a few threads dealing with absent and corrupted sound files but the postings might as well have been in Chinese as far as this PDDS (Post DOS Distress Syndrome) victim is concerned.  Anything beyond giving the engine a couple of good whacks is probably beyond me.  If more is required, to whom I should send it to for repair?

P.S.  No. 59, the dummy (locomotive, not the operator), is being merged with a "new in original box" NW2 and will grace the rails, too.  Perhaps there will be a blessed event, a little calf or a caboose, one day to brighten their lives... *sigh*  I saw a poll, lately, asking for nominations for "Most Forgotten Railroad" and the CGW came in 1st or 2nd.  LONG LIVE THE GREAT WESTERN!!!

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Thank you, all.

The battery was one of those 2 cell affairs encased in blue plastic with a pigtail plug, eliminating the possibility of a penlight battery test.  I gave the original the heave-ho, first thing, and replaced it with a "B-thing". 

I thought about the speaker being bad but the horn, bell and coupler all sounds are fine.  I'll do exploratory surgery, tomorrow.

Yes, I checked the "pot", ran it up and down several times with no discernible effect.  The fact that the horn, bell and coupler sounds work well should eliminate "pot" as the problem.  Maybe?

Yes, it has a round charging port.  As for "spears" and "chups", I have no clue.  And, yes, we have no MTH transformers.

It would appear that, save for a bad speaker, No. 26 is going to need a trip to a knowledgeable authorized AAR shop, home route for repair.  At least the line to Oelwein, IA, still exists.  Perhaps Marty can squeeze me in...

Rapid Transit Holmes posted:

Thank you, all.

The battery was one of those 2 cell affairs encased in blue plastic with a pigtail plug, eliminating the possibility of a penlight battery test.  I gave the original the heave-ho, first thing, and replaced it with a "B-thing". 

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Yes, it has a round charging port.  As for "spears" and "chups", I have no clue.  And, yes, we have no MTH transformers.

 

 Does not compute.  If it has a round charging port, that indicates a 5V board.  However, you describe the 3V NiCad battery pack.

How about a picture of the board set in that locomotive?  Given that it's a 2002 model, I'd expect to find a 5V board in it unless it was swapped out at some point.

gunrunnerjohn posted:
 

Does not compute.  If it has a round charging port, that indicates a 5V board.  However, you describe the 3V NiCad battery pack.

How about a picture of the board set in that locomotive?  Given that it's a 2002 model, I'd expect to find a 5V board in it unless it was swapped out at some point.

GunrunnerJohn,

It has been a very long winter but I've not forgotten either the project or your kind offer of help.  Here are two photos, taken today, one on either side, for your viewing pleasure:

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I appreciate your help in analyzing the problem!

Thanks...

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So, Barry, is that a 5 Volt board?  If so, then the operation was a success but the patient died.

Is there anything I can do or should I send it off to one of our electronics brain surgeons?

P.S.  I bought your book some time ago and am highly impressed despite the fact that most of the material is way over my head.  Thank you for being a great resource for us lesser beings.

Gentlemen,

Predictably, the Forum Luminaries have come to the rescue once more!  It was the speaker.  However, I can only give you a score of 99.9% because there was one other minor problem - reversed polarity.

The MTH speaker was puking some sort of Zinc Pest-like stuff from one side of the magnet, so, I replaced it with one of my leftover ERR speakers.  I was very careful to ensure proper polarity (white - yellow +) but when I plugged in the new speaker I noted that the colored wires on the speaker side of the connection were the reverse of the colors on the locomotive side.  I ran a test and there was a marked improvement - there were engine sounds but they were muted.

Convinced that there was "something rotten in Denmark", I reversed the connections at the speaker, re-tested, and BINGO!  Somewhere between the drawing board and my test track somebody goofed.

Thank you for all your help, on this issue and many others in the past!  OGRF is the best!

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