Wow fellows,  Great Lionel Catalog for Review Tomorrow, It’s going to be fun seeing all the trains an things Lionel has for us. It’s an exciting time of the year, I know everyone is ready. 

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I picked up a copy of the catalog at Ye Olde Train Shoppe in Boyertown PA yesterday. The Preamble Express is a bargain in my opinion compared to other things in there. Also a bargain remains those 0-6-0T LionChief Plus 2.0 engines. I’m going to have to pick one up.

I live in Berks County so the Reading T1’s are attractive. The price not quite as much.

I also think the E8 AA’s for $999.99 aren’t that bad considering both units are powered, and most shops will likely discount that by at least $150. 

I am actually considering the Vision Line Lionel Lines GS4 and passenger cars. Anyone else really enjoying the look of that?

I’m also glad to see new Reading Company cars, although I did just finally find the SGL set in 3 rail.

- Matt

Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

You certainly don't need these new Pennsylvania F-3s if you already have the Neil Young version (bottom picture). Surprised they didn't do the new ones in Tuscan. Swapping with a MPC F-3 shell is unknown, given that the LC+2 versions aren't out. I've swapped LC+ RS-3 and Geep shells, so it will probably be possible to do F-3 swaps. Just a matter of how much surgery will be required.

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Charlienassau posted:

AF and HO will have separate catalogs later

Since no one has asked, what is "later?"

Days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, infinity and beyond, 12th of never?

Rusty

IMG_6871

MikeH

They have done a helluva job hiding it. I can't find it.

Rich

breezinup posted:
Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

You certainly don't need these new Pennsylvania F-3s if you already have the Neil Young version (bottom picture). Surprised they didn't do the new ones in Tuscan. Swapping with a MPC F-3 shell is unknown, given that the LC+2 versions aren't out. I've swapped LC+ RS-3 and Geep shells, so it will probably be possible to do F-3 swaps. Just a matter of how much surgery will be required.

Nothing against Brunswick green, but come on, a little Tuscan red. I see tons of green ones

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richabr posted:
 
Charlienassau posted:

AF and HO will have separate catalogs later

Since no one has asked, what is "later?"

Days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, infinity and beyond, 12th of never?

Rusty

IMG_6871

MikeH

They have done a helluva job hiding it. I can't find it.

Rich

Me neither.   Must be in an alternate universe.

Rusty

richabr posted:
 
Charlienassau posted:

AF and HO will have separate catalogs later

Since no one has asked, what is "later?"

Days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, infinity and beyond, 12th of never?

Rusty

 

MikeH

They have done a helluva job hiding it. I can't find it.

Rich

You're shooting the messenger! 

MikeH

Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

I wondered the same thing, since Lionel “once again” decided to do PRR F3s in Brunswick Green.  Those of us who have been waiting patiently for over 40 years for updated “postwar style” PRR F3s in Tuscan Red are still waiting.

Greg

Mike,

No shots fired! I realize it's not the easiest site to navigate, but it's beyond my skill level to find it in any of the usual expected locations on the site. 

Rich

GregM posted:
Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

I wondered the same thing, since Lionel “once again” decided to do PRR F3s in Brunswick Green.  Those of us who have been waiting patiently for over 40 years for updated “postwar style” PRR F3s in Tuscan Red are still waiting.

Another option is to pick up a set of the MPC engines, and any PWC set, and swap shells. Easy to do. You'll have Pullmor motors, but with TMCC, RailSounds, directional lighting, electrocouplers, crew figures, etc., which will definitely give you an updated postwar style PRR F-3 set.

GregM posted:
Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

I wondered the same thing, since Lionel “once again” decided to do PRR F3s in Brunswick Green.  Those of us who have been waiting patiently for over 40 years for updated “postwar style” PRR F3s in Tuscan Red are still waiting.

The only PRR F units on red were a few FP's.  But I think most people ser red when the PRR is mentioned.

The TEXAS SPECIAL:  The REAL RED streak of the golden prairies!

If y'all know me I'm really excited for these f units and a little bird said 2 road names were Pennsylvania and new York central any way I will know for sure tomorrow

Oops did I mention too much?

 paigetrain

AKA Cody Parrish

modeler of the Allegheny Federation

serving Arizona and the Northeast Corridor

The Santa Fe Dash-8

Rusty Traque posted:
richabr posted:
 
Charlienassau posted:

AF and HO will have separate catalogs later

Since no one has asked, what is "later?"

Days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, infinity and beyond, 12th of never?

Rusty

IMG_6871

MikeH

They have done a helluva job hiding it. I can't find it.

Rich

Me neither.   Must be in an alternate universe.

Rusty

It'll probably be up tomorrow like the main catalog. 

KOOLjock1 posted:

I believe the PRR had ONE set of Tuscan painted F’s.

Jon

They had two A-B-A sets of Tuscan FP-7s, I believe. Not sure about the F-3s.

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KOOLjock1 posted:

I believe the PRR had ONE set of Tuscan painted F’s.

Jon

The PRR only had ONE S2 too, Lionel has produced how many?

Greg

"I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? "

I know some folks take model trains seriously as art and history.  But for some of us, they are all toys, some more toy-like than others.

May also be an age and nostalgia issue.  If you are under 60 years old you probably never saw a Lionel ad on TV or in the newspaper or ordered their catalog.  Same for American Flyer.  Those who grew up in the 1950s and 1960s or before knew Lionel postwar as the premier toy for boys in their youth.  Those imprints are powerful .

Another example from long ago. My generation (came of age in the 1960s) had trouble understanding our parents and uncles and aunts love of big band music, and so on.  They could not fathom the Stones and the Beatles in many cases.

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justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

I love the toy like aspect and the post war stuff can fit my tight o36 curves plus it's  like a time machine that lets me experience the old days that were decades before my time and as with all traditional o gauge it's just plain fun and not everything in this hobby has to be about counting rivets or have every detail spot on. I myself have started to turn away from scale because one it's too expensive for me and 2 I can't really handle even with the plan for my future layout I only want o36 max curves and I am going for a kind of animated cartoon science fiction sort of look

 paigetrain

AKA Cody Parrish

modeler of the Allegheny Federation

serving Arizona and the Northeast Corridor

The Santa Fe Dash-8

justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

Easy. These are the trains I grew up with. Liked them then, like them now.

Postwar trains and a toy train layout are what speaks to me.

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Justin,

Even the most massive “scale” layouts have absurdly tight curves... making scale length engines and rolling stock appear ridiculous.  Even if I had unlimited space for monstrously wide curves, I’d stick with traditionally sized trains.

Also, at my extreme age of 55, I can’t see the details anyway!

 

Jon  

Lionel must have missed the fact that the Southern Railway once offered to lease GS-4 4449 for excursion service but the city of Portland declined the offer. This was after Southern was impressed with 4449's performance on the 1976 Atlanta-Alexandria,Va excursion.  The plan was to paint 4449 green like the Otto Kuhler designed 1380.   https://www.railpictures.net/photo/367494/

Johnny Winkler

Johnny Winkler posted:

Lionel must have missed the fact that the Southern Railway once offered to lease GS-4 4449 for excursion service but the city of Portland declined the offer. This was after Southern was impressed with 4449's performance on the 1976 Atlanta-Alexandria,Va excursion.  The plan was to paint 4449 green like the Otto Kuhler designed 1380.   https://www.railpictures.net/photo/367494/

https://www.classicstreamliner...o-southern-1380.html

Johnny Winkler

breezinup posted:
GregM posted:
Jerryc86 posted:
GregM posted:
dorfj2 posted:

Any pics of the other LC+2.0 postwar style F-3's anywhere ???

Thx

Link to a picture of the PRR F3 engines.

https://www.thetrainshop.com/i...0-800x600-resize.jpg

I wounder if I can swap with a mpc Tuscan shell???

I wondered the same thing, since Lionel “once again” decided to do PRR F3s in Brunswick Green.  Those of us who have been waiting patiently for over 40 years for updated “postwar style” PRR F3s in Tuscan Red are still waiting.

Another option is to pick up a set of the MPC engines, and any PWC set, and swap shells. Easy to do. You'll have Pullmor motors, but with TMCC, RailSounds, directional lighting, electrocouplers, crew figures, etc., which will definitely give you an updated postwar style PRR F-3 set.

Has anyone ever tryed this???

breezinup posted:
KOOLjock1 posted:

I believe the PRR had ONE set of Tuscan painted F’s.

Jon

They had two A-B-A sets of Tuscan FP-7s, I believe. Not sure about the F-3s.

Those two FP7 ABA sets were apparently the only tuscan F-units on the PRR.  They had the standard passenger 5-stripe scheme as well.  All of the F3 and F7 units on the railroad as well as the 38 more FP7 A-units and 10 FP7 B-units were DGLE (Dark Green Locomotive Enamel) with the standard single-stripe freight scheme.  Source: Pennsy Diesels 1924-1968 by Douglas and Weiglin.

justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

Justin that is the beauty of choice. You don’t really need to know why someone likes something different than you. You just need to be happy with your choice. Since you are fairly young, be glad you have the options available today. It was not that long ago that many people wrote off O gauge, three rail. You my friend, are starting at a point in the hobby that more than a few people would not even believe could happen.

And just for perspective, there is a whole “really big” group of people that think ANYTHING that operates on 3 rails looks toyish, scale, post-war, pre-war or otherwise.

Enjoy your trains and don’t worry about how others participate in this hobby, you will sleep better.

Charlie

justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

I'm 40years old. I think it was during my senior year, that Lionel had announced the Post War Celebration Series. I had really come to enjoy it, and seeing what was in it became a highlight for me. It as an above poster said, reminds me of a simpler time when they didn't have to be so realistic, and all Lionel was made for children. Oh and btw, I'm also into scale models of what you see on the real thing today too. Watching my GG1s, Berks, and F3s rolling past Lionel accessories, and Plasticville buildings is just as exciting as watching my ES44s and AC4400s  pulling scale freight past realistic scenery and buildings.

Bill

NSBill posted:
justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

I'm 40years old. I think it was during my senior year, that Lionel had announced the Post War Celebration Series. I had really come to enjoy it, and seeing what was in it became a highlight for me. It as an above poster said, reminds me of a simpler time when they didn't have to be so realistic, and all Lionel was made for children. Oh and btw, I'm also into scale models of what you see on the real thing today too. Watching my GG1s, Berks, and F3s rolling past Lionel accessories, and Plasticville buildings is just as exciting as watching my ES44s and AC4400s  pulling scale freight past realistic scenery and buildings.

Bill

I'm 47 and my dad introduced me to Lionel when I was a kid in the 1970s, just like his dad did for him in the 1950s.  I've had a layout set up for the past 5 or six years, but a recent move dictated that I tear it down.  Now that I'm in the new place, it's time to rebuild it.  I was going to go realistic on the scenery on the new layout, but I've decided to change my mind. 

I'm going with a postwar theme on the new layout instead.... My dad collapsed from a stroke this past Christmas morning and passed away the next day.  I think that's the kind of layout he would've loved to see....  and I've always had the itch to build a layout in postwar style.  I love the simplicity.  I've got his original 2245 Texas Special that his dad got him and boxes & boxes of his other stuff that I need to go through....  A lot of boxes that I have no idea what's in them.  This will be interesting.

Matt Kramer posted:
NSBill posted:
justin p posted:

I don't get why people like the post-war look, looks toyish to me, but that's just my opinion . Can you guys tell me why you like it? 

I'm 40years old. I think it was during my senior year, that Lionel had announced the Post War Celebration Series. I had really come to enjoy it, and seeing what was in it became a highlight for me. It as an above poster said, reminds me of a simpler time when they didn't have to be so realistic, and all Lionel was made for children. Oh and btw, I'm also into scale models of what you see on the real thing today too. Watching my GG1s, Berks, and F3s rolling past Lionel accessories, and Plasticville buildings is just as exciting as watching my ES44s and AC4400s  pulling scale freight past realistic scenery and buildings.

Bill

I'm 47 and my dad introduced me to Lionel when I was a kid in the 1970s, just like his dad did for him in the 1950s.  I've had a layout set up for the past 5 or six years, but a recent move dictated that I tear it down.  Now that I'm in the new place, it's time to rebuild it.  I was going to go realistic on the scenery on the new layout, but I've decided to change my mind. 

I'm going with a postwar theme on the new layout instead.... My dad collapsed from a stroke this past Christmas morning and passed away the next day.  I think that's the kind of layout he would've loved to see....  and I've always had the itch to build a layout in postwar style.  I love the simplicity.  I've got his original 2245 Texas Special that his dad got him and boxes & boxes of his other stuff that I need to go through....  A lot of boxes that I have no idea what's in them.  This will be interesting.

VERY sorry to hear about your Dad.  What a loss for your family, I'm sure.

If I were in your position, I would go ahead and build the P/W layout - but I would not freelance the layout.  I would look at the various P/W store layouts (all available on-line) and build a layout based on one of those designs.

Good luck.

 

 

RT   

2 things that I think regarding this topic.  1 important one is that some of the posters are less than 60.  One in their 40s.  Sounds like youth to me.

The  other.  This topic will get very quiet a few hours after 9.  

I hope everyone here gets what they want here.  Certainly sounds like a lot of exciting offerings.

Bryant

TCA 18-73717

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