NYC Classics

@harmonyards posted:

Yes, hands down the MTH Niagara ( mechanically speaking ) is literally built like a battle tank,……my opinion, and mine alone, the CCII Niagara that Lionel produced is the biggest bucket of bolts they ever let grace a catalog, …..now, when guys like Alex M, Pete, and now Lou, ( who’s a veteran of that misery now) take and upgrade those engines, they are good models, but when purchasing one, you have to take into account not only electronics upgrades, but also mechanical repairs,…..

Pat

Yeah, Alex did the good work on my CCII Niagara. Only thing that stayed the same was the sound that was in it. The market has quite a bit of them out there, mostly high prices. I think the cheapest(non-bid) was in the $600's. Some still list over $800 or more. Lowest bid I think I saw was around $300-400 which did go for quite a bit when I watched regularly. I haven't seen a bidding one in some time.

While the MTH Niagaras have a bullletproof drivetrain, the one weak item is the feedwater pump. Like Lionel’s cab apron, its diecast and not well supported. Its easily broken in handling. It can be repaired with one from Precision Scale though.

As for the single headlight, all the S1bs were built about the same time with the single headlight. No need to change the cab number when back dating them. You might want to change bell location though as that was changed when the horn was added.

Pete

Feed water heater tucked behind the drivers on the fireman's side?

Also, great advice Pete as usual.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Feed water heater tucked behind the drivers on the fireman's side?

Also, great advice Pete as usual.

Yes.

Pete

@Norton posted:

Yes.

Pete

Wow, I actually got something right on an engine that I only know a few scarce details on, like water, coal, engine, tender. I sort of wondered what that was on some other models, couldn't tell you what ones because I think some that I have seen don't have it modeled on the engine or in that place. Thanks Pete.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Wow, I actually got something right on an engine that I only know a few scarce details on, like water, coal, engine, tender. I sort of wondered what that was on some other models, couldn't tell you what ones because I think some that I have seen don't have it modeled on the engine or in that place. Thanks Pete.

Yeah, if you blow up the picture of my 6025, my water pump is broken off and missing in action too,…..Pete is correct, that pump is MTH’s Achilles heel….

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Yeah, if you blow up the picture of my 6025, my water pump is broken off and missing in action too,…..Pete is correct, that pump is MTH’s Achilles heel….

Pat

Pat, is that something that you're going to get to in the near future? One of those things on that short(or long) to do list.

@GG1 4877 posted:

Does this count?

Sure looks like it counts. I see the initials, what all else does it say on it?

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Sure looks like it counts. I see the initials, what all else does it say on it?

This is a Dietz Vesta lantern and is noted on the top.  The other lettering not shown in the photo is various patent dates between 1920 and 1942.  There is no other lettering on it other than someone scratched "CPK" on it which I assume was its owner at one time?  Two NYC lanterns were in the last TCA Desert Division Auction.  The other one had a clear globe, but had "New York Central System" embossed in the glass.  I did not win that bid, but have always wanted a red lantern.  My dad collected them in the late 60's when they were very affordable, but he does not have a NYC one.  As a child, he used to light them in the evenings when we were sitting out on the porch.

@GG1 4877 posted:

This is a Dietz Vesta lantern and is noted on the top.  The other lettering not shown in the photo is various patent dates between 1920 and 1942.  There is no other lettering on it other than someone scratched "CPK" on it which I assume was its owner at one time?  Two NYC lanterns were in the last TCA Desert Division Auction.  The other one had a clear globe, but had "New York Central System" embossed in the glass.  I did not win that bid, but have always wanted a red lantern.  My dad collected them in the late 60's when they were very affordable, but he does not have a NYC one.  As a child, he used to light them in the evenings when we were sitting out on the porch.

It does have N.Y.C.S on it though. Cool story as well, thanks for sharing that.

@GG1 4877 posted:

This is a Dietz Vesta lantern and is noted on the top.  The other lettering not shown in the photo is various patent dates between 1920 and 1942.  There is no other lettering on it other than someone scratched "CPK" on it which I assume was its owner at one time?  Two NYC lanterns were in the last TCA Desert Division Auction.  The other one had a clear globe, but had "New York Central System" embossed in the glass.  I did not win that bid, but have always wanted a red lantern.  My dad collected them in the late 60's when they were very affordable, but he does not have a NYC one.  As a child, he used to light them in the evenings when we were sitting out on the porch.

There should be a faint serial number on it, as well.  Hopefully, starting with an "S", for Syracuse.

I'll grab a picture of mine when I get home...

Thanks!

- Mario

@CentralFan1976 posted:

There should be a faint serial number on it, as well.  Hopefully, starting with an "S", for Syracuse.

I'll grab a picture of mine when I get home...

Thanks!

- Mario

Mario - I missed that completely as it first looked like a date.  The serial number is S-3-42. 

Is this the correct location?

@GG1 4877 posted:

Mario - I missed that completely as it first looked like a date.  The serial number is S-3-42.

Is this the correct location?

You nailed it!

Here's mine...

Red NYCS and matching globe from 1945:

Clear NYCL and matching globe from 1932:

thanks!

- Mario

@CentralFan1976 posted:

You nailed it!

Here's mine...

thanks!

- Mario

Mario,

The education is very much appreciated!  I kind of wish I had made a stronger run at that second lantern now! 

This lovely arrived Thursday from Trainz. I managed to wait a bit and the price got further discounted so I jumped on it. It is the MTH New York Central Niagara #6025, that makes 3 Niagara's for me. In the listing, it said some "pitting" on the pilot, which I took a shot in the last photo. This will eventually be bound for an upgrade as I only run Legacy and not DCS. Eventually I would want at least 5 Niagaras to sort of catch up to some other New York Central engines, but that can wait a bit when the time is right.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

This lovely arrived Thursday from Trainz. I managed to wait a bit and the price got further discounted so I jumped on it. It is the MTH New York Central Niagara #6025, that makes 3 Niagara's for me. In the listing, it said some "pitting" on the pilot, which I took a shot in the last photo. This will eventually be bound for an upgrade as I only run Legacy and not DCS. Eventually I would want at least 5 Niagaras to sort of catch up to some other New York Central engines, but that can wait a bit when the time is right.

Dave, that’s just some minor paint rash,…,don’t let that sweat you for a second….I’ve seen a million like that ….just take a rag with a tiny bit of oil, and wipe down the bottom of that pilot truck and all will be well,…

Pat

Let's not forget this NYC Classic:

That's the Lionel NY Central Tugboat. Arnold

@harmonyards posted:

Dave, that’s just some minor paint rash,…,don’t let that sweat you for a second….I’ve seen a million like that ….just take a rag with a tiny bit of oil, and wipe down the bottom of that pilot truck and all will be well,…

Pat

Yeah, not sweating it at all. Very happy with this monster. When I took it out this morning, I just kept smiling. I know that the jets on the tender appear to be smaller than what is on the VL version, but figured that they had to be bigger to do the water scoop effect. Either way, another prized addition to my ever growing New York Central fleet.

@Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Let's not forget this NYC Classic:

That's the Lionel NY Central Tugboat. Arnold

That’s cool Arnold!…I grew up on the Hudson, …..you sure got the color of the water correct!…..creepy green!….I love it !!….

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

That’s cool Arnold!…I grew up on the Hudson, …..you sure got the color of the water correct!…..creepy green!….I love it !!….

Pat

Pat, when I first saw that NY Central Tugboat at my LHS, I thought it was the most beautiful model railroad item I ever saw, told that to the LHS owner, and he wouldn't sell it to me, even for an exorbitant price!

Then, by some miracle, I saw it again on the table of a Big E vendor this past January, and he initially told me it's not for sale!  He had bought it from another vendor that morning and wanted it for his own collection. I was beside myself. LOL.

Well, I made him an offer he couldn't refuse because he had young children and needed the money. So, I finally got this Holy Grail of a tugboat. LOL, Arnold

Pete

Where is that at Pete?

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Where is that at Pete?

Buzzards Bay, Mass. Older pic. It may have moved.

Pete

@Norton posted:

Pete

The real thing! Gorgeous! Thanks Pete!

@Norton posted:

Buzzards Bay, Mass. Older pic. It may have moved.

Pete

I was up in Buzzards Bay area as a kid, that is somewhere about there. My Aunt lived in  Massachusetts for a time as her husband was stationed there in the Coast Guard. I think that was in the 80's some time but not sure if very early 80's or mid 80's. I know he got moved to Governor's Island right around the time the movie Critical Condition with Richard Pryor was being filmed.

A typical day on my New York Central

@NYC Fan posted:

A typical day on my New York Central

WOW, Skip!!! Absolutely amazing. If that is a typical day, I’d hate to see a busy day. I have to ask… how many trains can you run at one time on how many tracks. I think I counted 8. And the Hellgate Bridge is beautiful - is that a custom build???

Skip definitely has set the bar,…..and it’s up there!…😁

Pat

Skip the renditions of New York City landmarks on your layout are incredible!  Two questions is there an underlying reason the Ford billboard is backwards?  And is that a second Chrysler building painted on the backdrop?

My take on the Ford being backwards is that it is on the outside of a dealership showroom window.

@NYC Fan posted:

A typical day on my New York Central

Skip you sure got a lot of stuff coming in. Hey, is the Swift's meat coming in from Chicago? I know there was a train that was stopping in Chicago with a shipment bound east. Also, is Babe Ruth playing at Yankee Stadium today?

Yup, definitely a very busy day on the Central. I think you had posted a video of about 5 minutes long somewhere recently with all sort of engines going every which direction. Gotta love it. Niagara's must be out west I guess.

@NYC Fan posted:

A typical day on my New York Central

Magnificent!

Peter

Skip,

Until now I had only seen still photos of your layout. Today the video; Wow, spectacular. You can feel the din and grit of the city as the Centrals commerce rolls on. The buildings are breathtaking.

Are your layout details including a track plan posted elsewhere? I would love to know more about the buildings. Thank you for your dedication to your creation, the layout I dreamed of as a child.

I am an amateur, trying in my own feeble way to bring the "Water Level Route" to the shores of Puget Sound, at current rate 5 more years before the whistle sings.

kevin

Thanks for all you nice comments. To answer a couple of questions, there are 4 main lines on which I routinely run 7 or 8 trains at a time thanks to Lionel Legacy. There is also an elevated subway line that has doubles as the "High Line," and a subterranean subway line as well.

The backdrops were reprints of Clarke Dunham's great Citicorp Station backdrops. I took my kids to his display in the Citicorp Building every year during the holidays as long as it was there. So yes, there are actually second representations of some of my buildings on the backdrop.

The Ford billboard has the word Ford backwards because you're looking at people who are looking in a window.

The six foot long Hellgate Bridge was custom built by Roger Farkash as I needed something to span 8 tracks.

The layout planning began in 2000 when I moved into my current home. The custom made buildings and bridges were also 17 years from planning to completion with help from very talented people along the way.

Skip, thanks for clearing up the backwards FORD.  I went back and looked again and see what you mean.  How did you get get reprints of Clarke's backdrops?

@coach joe posted:

Skip, thanks for clearing up the backwards FORD.  I went back and looked again and see what you mean.  How did you get get reprints of Clarke's backdrops?

I was able to get the reprints directly from Dunham Studios in Pottersville, NY.  Clarke Dunham had table space at the York Train Meet and I was able to talk with him about my request and he was most accommodating.

@NYC Fan posted:

Spectacular photo of the Lionel NY Central Tugboat and Gantry Crane. Thanks Skip.

New York Classics: The A Train, Macy's at 34th Street, The 20th Century Limited and Yankee Stadium.

@NYC FanFAN, Wow, beautiful layout, super smooth running trains in the video, amazing layout. Thank you very much for sharing the fun. The scenic back drops are very interesting, the bridge is also really nice, your layout is awesome. Your layout is spectacular with the lighted sky scrapers, the subway, just super cool.  This is a fun to view thread. Happy Railroading Everyone

The backdrops were reprints of Clarke Dunham's great Citicorp Station backdrops. I took my kids to his display in the Citicorp Building every year during the holidays as long as it was there. So yes, there are actually second representations of some of my buildings on the backdrop.

I realized that Clarke Dunham's Citicorp Station has been gone for about 15 years now and some of you may be new to the hobby and have no recollection of this display. Here are a couple of photos. The display still exists at Dunham Studios and the last time I spoke to Clarke, they were looking for a suitable venue in the NYC area to bring it back to life. Clarke's work was a great inspiration for me when I planned my layout.

Really cool inspiration there Skip, I can see why your layout became what it is from that.

A little Tail End Tuesday photo. Some of my NYC crummies lined up for assignment in the yards on the west side of Manhattan just south of the Roundhouse at 72nd Street.

@NYC Fan posted:

A little Tail End Tuesday photo. Some of my NYC crummies lined up for assignment in the yards on the west side of Manhattan just south of the Roundhouse at 72nd Street.

I've never heard the term crummies before. Is that something railroads used for cabooses, or crews?

PW Lionel 2344 ABBA with MTH Cars, night run

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

I've never heard the term crummies before. Is that something railroads used for cabooses, or crews?

Yes, crummies were railroad slang for cabooses.

Thanks Skip, you have educated me once again on stuff that I should file in my railroad dictionary(in my head filled with other information people may deem useless).

@NYC Fan posted:

I realized that Clarke Dunham's Citicorp Station has been gone for about 15 years now and some of you may be new to the hobby and have no recollection of this display. Here are a couple of photos. The display still exists at Dunham Studios and the last time I spoke to Clarke, they were looking for a suitable venue in the NYC area to bring it back to life. Clarke's work was a great inspiration for me when I planned my layout.

Skip, thanks for the refresher.  Times truly does keep marching on.  I had no idea it was that long since that layout last graced the Citicorp Building.

Just saved from the scrappers and back at work.

Pete

@NYC Fan posted:

I realized that Clarke Dunham's Citicorp Station has been gone for about 15 years now and some of you may be new to the hobby and have no recollection of this display. Here are a couple of photos. The display still exists at Dunham Studios and the last time I spoke to Clarke, they were looking for a suitable venue in the NYC area to bring it back to life. Clarke's work was a great inspiration for me when I planned my layout.

Thanks for the memories, Skip………this was an awesome layout in person!

Peter

Today on the FCTT-Hirailers layout.

Pete

Pete, nice run. Cars are MTH, right? When were those produced? They look really nice.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

Pete, nice run. Cars are MTH, right? When were those produced? They look really nice.

Dave, the cars are MTH but all repaints. I wanted something plainer for the shortlines. MTH only did ESE cars for NYC. Very nice but too fancy for the locals. Lionel is doing NYC and Hudson River cars which look sharp but they priced me out. I can make two trains with engines for what they want for those cars alone.

Pete

@Norton posted:

Dave, the cars are MTH but all repaints. I wanted something plainer for the shortlines. MTH only did ESE cars for NYC. Very nice but too fancy for the locals. Lionel is doing NYC and Hudson River cars which look sharp but they priced me out. I can make two trains with engines for what they want for those cars alone.

Pete

They look great as what you made them into. I thought that MTH had done a run of those. I was going to start searching the web for them when I got back. I guess I don't have to. Yeah, Lionel really jacked the prices on the cars they produced from the MTH Tooling. I only got the Strasburg run(2000's) and a run of the B&M's. I wasn't going to get anything more from the new catalog at all.

Dave, Beth did a run of unlettered Pullman Green coaches. She may still have some. Lionel bought the molds before she could have more cars made so I had to use other cars and repaint them myself.

Pete

Here's an NYC short you all might like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8otg7518YU

@Norton posted:

Dave, Beth did a run of unlettered Pullman Green coaches. She may still have some. Lionel bought the molds before she could have more cars made so I had to use other cars and repaint them myself.

Pete

Well, I'd have to outsource painting, lettering and all that as my skills in that regard are extremely lacking. Maybe I'll take a look, see what's out there. Thanks again Pete.

Here's a wide shot of my New York Central Pacemaker Freight Facility.

I thought I would share an NYC classic using an MTH classic. This is a video I made of my Empire State Express set by MTH.  A bit of a walk down memory lane with Proto 1 sounds and passenger silhouettes in the windows of the cars.  This set was something for its time and I still enjoy running it in between my command control stuff.

Skip, nice transfer facility.

Rob, absolutely gorgeous set eve with silhouettes. 

Well I don't have too much to add, that display from Citicorp is just spectacular.  I did see it once in person and it was truly amazing.  Here are a couple of my modest trains for the post.

Here is the NYC type S from Grand Central station with a little utility train.  The Lionel #152 is from 1926-1927

Here is the hardy Marx Alco S-2 with a short freight from the 1950's.

Best Wishes

Don

Hudsons on our old mountain layout

New York Central P-2b #223 electric motor and heavyweight passenger cars in lightning stripes certainly qualify as NYC Classics. The entire consist is made up of MTH PS1 models. Running on my 12'-by-8' layout.

MELGAR

@MELGAR posted:

New York Central P-2b #223 electric motor and heavyweight passenger cars in lightning stripes certainly qualify as NYC Classics. The entire consist is made up of MTH PS1 models. Running on my 12'-by-8' layout.

MELGAR

Love it, Mel. Those NYC electrics are so boxy… absolutely utilitarian, yet there is something so beautiful about them!!! Wish I had gotten to see them hauling commuters through Westchester.

@Apples55 posted:

Love it, Mel. Those NYC electrics are so boxy… absolutely utilitarian, yet there is something so beautiful about them!!! Wish I had gotten to see them hauling commuters through Westchester.

That engine is one of my favorites. The model dates from 1999.

MELGAR

Oh what beautiful trains are pictured here, @C Sam, wow, beautiful Hudson’s, beautiful layout, it’s a view worthy of being a painting, @MELGAR, that’s a beautiful lighting stripe electric locomotive, and beautiful passenger cars, great video, wow. @Don McErlean, your pictures are top notch and your vintage tinplate locomotive is awesome, oldies but beauties bring back memories, they seem to run forever with a little TLC… This steamer in my pictures is a re-built K-Line hudson, re-built at the The Harmonyards. Happy Railroading Everyone

I was trying to watch the video of Mel's electric yesterday at lunch but it wouldn't play. Reception at work especially when I am on lunch always seems to be waning. Great video Mel, nice looking rebuilt Hudson Larry, I'll have one like it soon enough too.

Mel, everything about this engine is way cool.  I always wanted one but knew I would never have the radius to operate it.

Larry such a graceful beauty.  Look at that smoke!.  Pat did a great job.

Picked up these mid 90's NYC passenger cars for my 785.

I honestly think I have a problem collecting NYC trains... LTI mowhawk hauling some milk with a smoking NYC caboose 

@Donnie Kennedy posted:

I honestly think I have a problem collecting NYC trains... LTI Mohawk hauling some milk with a smoking NYC caboose 

Never enough NY Central; as long as I'm CentralFan1976, I'll collect them!

I've always loved the 785.  I may have to get one even though my layout won't really be big enough.  Here's my big NYC steam, a Rail King Mohawk of the first gen.

I've added some details

And had to straighten out a bent roof. I though I had a before and after shot handy but these are both afters.  I'll see if I can dig up a before.

Okay so I tracked down a couple of before photos so you can see the difference.

Joe,

However you did the repair, it came out very well. Not visible in the pictures.

MELGAR

@coach joe posted:

I've always loved the 785.  I may have to get one even though my layout won't really be big enough.

No problem, Joe… from what I’ve found online, “this Hudson will best handle 0-72" curves but, it will negotiate 0-31 O-gauge trackage”

@Apples55 posted:

No problem, Joe… from what I’ve found online, “this Hudson will best handle 0-72" curves but, it will negotiate 0-31 O-gauge trackage”

Paul is 100% right on that! I tested mine on 031 Menards o guage and she handles them perfectly and doesn't look awkward. The 785 is one of my favorites.

Thanks Paul and Donnie just what I needed to know.  I'm starting to hear voices.  I think they moved south from PA.

@coach joe posted:

Thanks Paul and Donnie just what I needed to know.  I'm starting to hear voices.  I think they moved south from PA.

Coach, …it’s ok to hear the voices….do as they say,….they started talking to me in the 70’s and I never listened to anybody else….😉

Pat

@coach joe posted:

Thanks Paul and Donnie just what I needed to know.  I'm starting to hear voices.  I think they moved south from PA.

The voices are everywhere

The voices told me to make a video for you coach..

Listen to the voices, Joe… Listen to the voices, Joe… Listen to the voices, Joe…

The 783 ain’t half bad either…

Paul,….be careful though,….If you listen to voices long enough,  like I did,…..you’ll become one of them,……..😳

Pat

@Apples55 posted:

Listen to the voices, Joe… Listen to the voices, Joe… Listen to the voices, Joe…

The 783 ain’t half bad either…

Is realism no longer a concern for O gauge locomotives and cars ?  As a life long NYC fan and former employee, I have to speak up about a photo that could be called almost sacriligeous - an NYC Hudson with a Vanderbilt tender !!!!

Hudsons had eight and twelve wheel and centipede tenders, all with straight sides  - never a Vanderbilt. 

Same problem with those two tone gray heavyweight dining and observation cars.  Both HW cars were long gone before NYC began using that color scheme on other than streamlined cars.

@mlaughlinnyc posted:

Is realism no longer a concern for O gauge locomotives and cars ?  As a life long NYC fan and former employee, I have to speak up about a photo that could be called almost sacriligeous - an NYC Hudson with a Vanderbilt tender !!!!

Hudsons had eight and twelve wheel and centipede tenders, all with straight sides  - never a Vanderbilt.

Same problem with those two tone gray heavyweight dining and observation cars.  Both HW cars were long gone before NYC began using that color scheme on other than streamlined cars.

Evidently they kept you underground at GCT way too long, …..that Hudson with a Vandy was issued in 1997 ……😆😆😆

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Paul,….be careful though,….If you listen to voices long enough,  like I did,…..you’ll become one of them,……..😳

Pat

What I aspire to be like.

@mlaughlinnyc posted:

Is realism no longer a concern for O gauge locomotives and cars ?  As a life long NYC fan and former employee, I have to speak up about a photo that could be called almost sacriligeous - an NYC Hudson with a Vanderbilt tender !!!!

Hudsons had eight and twelve wheel and centipede tenders, all with straight sides  - never a Vanderbilt.

Same problem with those two tone gray heavyweight dining and observation cars.  Both HW cars were long gone before NYC began using that color scheme on other than streamlined cars.

You forgot that they run on three rails…

@harmonyards posted:

Paul,….be careful though,….If you listen to voices long enough,  like I did,…..you’ll become one of them,……..😳

Pat

One of us…

Hard working NYC classics getting it done at a scale 65 mph.

NYC Tank engine with 5 MTH passenger cars.

@harmonyards posted:

Paul,….be careful though,….If you listen to voices long enough,  like I did,…..you’ll become one of them,……..😳

Pat

Ahhh, Pat… I’m afraid it’s way too late for me. Thanks for the pictures of your collection - my collection doesn’t quite rival yours (yet!!!), but we all need something to strive for

P.S. I was lucky enough to have taken a couple of tours of the Metro North Harmon Yard back when they did an open house every year!!!

@harmonyards posted:

Paul,….be careful though,….If you listen to voices long enough,  like I did,…..you’ll become one of them,……..😳

Pat

Pat, I love those shelves!!!   What are the dimensions?  Thanks'

This picture shows the “downtown” at the front corner of my 12’-by-8’ layout with New York Central #1991 lightning stripe heavyweight passenger car stopped at the station. The station is behind the passenger car and not visible.

MELGAR

My all-time favorite.  Love the Niagara front end!

This engine has a PS3 upgrade runs great!

@Scott R posted:

My all-time favorite.  Love the Niagara front end!

This engine has a PS3 upgrade runs great!

The one video that they have on YouTube of the real thing is of a very imposing beast. The interesting thing that I found about watching that video is how different the Niagara is from Northerns. The height difference being chief among them because of the height in and along the Central's lines. It would have been a bad thing hitting the top of the engine going through tunnels.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

The one video that they have on YouTube of the real thing is of a very imposing beast. The interesting thing that I found about watching that video is how different the Niagara is from Northerns. The height difference being chief among them because of the height in and along the Central's lines. It would have been a bad thing hitting the top of the engine going through tunnels.

Sleek, elegant, oozing of raw power,….too bad they never had a chance to live up to their full potential, a pinnacle of what was then, modern steam….Merry Christmas 🎄 Dave!

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Sleek, elegant, oozing of raw power,….too bad they never had a chance to live up to their full potential, a pinnacle of what was then, modern steam….Merry Christmas 🎄 Dave!

Pat

Merry Christmas to you too Pat. I'll have that Mohawk running at some point tomorrow smoking me out.

Heading to the shops for an engine rebuild. Looks like the rings or injectors are shot.

Pete

We always seem to marvel at the smoke output of some of the newer fan driven smoke units but I think you hit it on the head some time it looks like an engine is in need of a major overhaul.

You never know where and when you will find a New York Central fan……..didn’t realize Winnie was a fan…….

Have a great day, folks!

Peter

Darn partimer always dogging it.

Not neccessarily a "classic", not terribly accurate either.

The U.S.R.A. mallet from Lionel is as close as a NYC fan can get to the smaller prototype New York Central N2e mallet.   A round smokebox door would have been a bit more convincing, maybe a future modification.