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I knew for awhile I was going to build a electric short line going though a mountain area to some mines on my new layout. I've been picking up old brass small Westinghouse electric shells for the line. Sometime back I did a test electric using old K-line trucks and electronics from their S-2 switcher. They worked out fine and I think the trucks look right for the locomotive. I've wondered for a long time why someone doesn't make a Westinghouse electric like this. They ran all over the United States, Canada and Mexico. Many small and large railroads used them. Also some private companies. There are a few in use today. It amazes me no company ever mass produced these engines. Now that RMT makes a new and improved version of the old K-line S-2, they call it a S-4, why don't they come out with this electric. It's small and I think would have a huge following. Making the shell in plastic would help keep the retail price reasonable. Hope RMT will see this. Don

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Good suggestion; count me in. An O gauge model of a typical interurban type steeple or box cab electric could be scale sized and still compact enough to negotiate tight curvature on smaller layouts. A Baldwin-Westinghouse Class B motor similar to the tinplate locomotive offered by ETS would be ideal. 

 

A suggestion:

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1851853

 

Here's hoping with fingers crossed,

 

Bob    

I'd like to see an updated model of the Chilean Exploration 520 which includes correct B-B running gear instead of the existing configuration of simulated sideframes concealing a 2-4-0 wheel arrangement. The model's body is surprisingly well detailed and accurate for what was marketed as a lower end locomotive and I've always thought it would be nice to see it mounted on a more suitable chassis.

 

Bob 

Originally Posted by CNJ 3676:

I'd like to see an updated model of the Chilean Exploration 520 which includes correct B-B running gear instead of the existing configuration of simulated sideframes concealing a 2-4-0 wheel arrangement. The model's body is surprisingly well detailed and accurate for what was marketed as a lower end locomotive and I've always thought it would be nice to see it mounted on a more suitable chassis.

 

Bob 


I'd much rather see a Baldwin-Westinghouse steeple cab that doesn't sell for half a grand. Postwar Lionel was all about compromise, We don't need an upgrade on that oddball south American prototype and if I want STILL another 520, I can buy all I want for $50 a pop.

Originally Posted by Bill T:

It looks like RMT has used or modified existing tooling from K-Line and Kusan. Not sure if they have actually developed any new tooling which can be quite expensive.

   Someone on an earlier forum suggested to Walter mating the 520 body to a Bang chassis.  Why not?  Offer it with or without pantographs/trolley poles.

Here's a good idea for a box cab. Canadian National Z1a 6710 was built by GE in 1914 and remained in Montreal area commuter service until retired as a result of upgrading of the railroad's catenary system in the mid 90s, a remarkable record of longevity for a locomotive on a major carrier.

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=2853763 

 

The 6710's appearance is sufficiently generic to enable of model of it to be painted in a variety of additional road names and still serve as an accurate recreation of those roads' motors.

 

Bob  

Those CN boxcabs look very similar to the BA&P boxcabs used out in Montana.  Don: If those might be made available, pretty close to scale, you'd have an excuse to build an electrified "branch" or connecting railroad to your Milwaukee Road electrification. 

 

But, for me, the right electrics would be a family of GE's 40 to 80 ton steeple cabs.  Just think of the railroads that actually used them, including the Milwaukee, the North Shore and most other electric lines that promoted freight on interurban trackage.  I'd think that the trucks could be the same as used on some 44ton GE diesels, and if internal space problems could be worked out, the motor and electronics could be used in both the electric engine as well as the little diesels. 

 

Big market potential here.  Lot's of different RR logos.  Don't tell me that motors wouldn't fit the restricted cab areas; some HO gauge engines have a lot more limited space inside and these small engines don't need a lot of power.  If they could pull 4 or 5 cars, they's be prototypically correct.

 

I'm reaady to place my order for a couple!

 

Paul Fischer

Paul, that's exactly what I'm doing. Look at my top picture and you'll see a brass box cab on the right. I'd love the big GE 80 ton steeple cab for my Milwaukee Road. I road in this one sometime in the 70's in Yakima Washington. 

The K-line powered trucks had a horizontal motor between the trucks to there is no problem fitting them on almost anything. Don

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Gentlemen,

  I have the most recent RMT catalog and it lists what they are calling the "Zip".  It appears to be a PEEP type body with some alterations (Headlight, cow pusher, working pantograph, etc...), sitting on top a BEEF/BEEP chasis. It will come as a set of two cars.  Imagine this picture, but shorter, and with a cow pusher.  The catalog says it will come in several names. I'm really looking forward to it and have plans for an elevated section to be built on my table just for this one.

 

 

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Considering all the many years of requests for small units like these I can't help but wonder why no manufacturer will make the investment for new or modified dies. Granted, it will be expected to be priced low, but these are basicly entry level engines and could have a long sales run. Comment from Walter or another producer?

 

From RMT web site for delivery late '12 or early '13.

 

 

 

MP-15 DIESEL:
ORDERS ACCEPTED on/about Late Summer 2012 and pricing will be shown at that time.

Originally designed and produced by K-Line Electric Trains of Chapel Hill, NC in 1988, the MP-15 was a true O scale locomotive. Updated in 1997 to include an electronic horn sound and in 1998, metal handrails were added.

For 2012, RMT BY AristO® will re-introduce the MP-15 locomotive. However, any previous K-line or K-line by Lionel production of specific roadnumber will not be repeated allowing each railroad series to continue.

The MP-15 locomotive will feature dual motors, 8-wheel drive with traction tires, electronic reversing unit, operating couplers, metal chassis, front and rear directional headlights, metal handrails and upgraded painting decoration.

Availability is expected in late Summer 2012 and detailed artwork information will be updated when available.


BOXCAB LOCOMOTIVE:
ORDERS ACCEPTED starting late-2012 and pricing will be shown at that time for expected 2013 delivery.

Originally designed jointly by K-Line Electric Trains of Chapel Hill, NC and RMT® in early 2000, the BOXCAB was actually produced only as a K-line by Lionel product 2005-2010 as an 0-27 locomotive.

For late 2012/early 2013 arrival, RMT BY AristO® will re-introduce the BOXCAB locomotive. A new chassis has been developed that uses the durable RMT® BEEP® mechanism along with a solid frame, additional lighting features, interior cab figures and more.

However, any previous KBL production of specific roadNUMBER will not be repeated allowing each RAILroad series to continue along with new railroad names not previously offered.

The BOXCAB locomotive will feature dual motors, 4-wheel drive with traction tire, electronic reversing unit, operating couplers, front and rear directional headlights, metal handrails and upgraded painting decoration.

Availability is expected in Late 2012/early 2013 and detailed artwork information will be updated when available.

GG-1 ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVE:
ORDERS ACCEPTED starting late summer 2012 and pricing will be shown at that time.

Originally designed and produced by K-Line Electric Trains of Chapel Hill, NC in 1988, the GG-1 was a true classic locomotive. This die cast engine features dual vertical motors with flywheels, prototypically correct doors and ladders, operating headlight, operating marker lights and working pantographs.

For 2012, RMT BY AristO® will re-introduce the GG-1 locomotive. However, any previous K-line or K-line by Lionel production of specific roadnumber will not be repeated allowing each railroad series to continue.

In addition, 2 new paint schemes...AMTRAK "Savings Bonds' and PRR American Railroads...will be offered in addition to 3 other PRR versions with and upgraded painting decoration.

Availability is expected in late Summer 2012 and detailed artwork information will be updated when available


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