SUPERLINER

The two parts remaining for this car are the windows and the roof; at this time they are current manufacturing. As I can't stay in front of my bench without working, I have begun to cut up some parts for the second one, the sleeping car; so I have a question for the OGR Webmaster: may I open another thread or keep on on the same one? It's however something different; I prefer to ask you; Thanks.

jpv in France

Have you seen the remake of the Italian Job film?  Last scene is filmed in the Superliner club car.  It's also the best footage on film to my knowledge of various UP diesel locomotives.  I think there are SD70 Aces and ES44s but I'm not much of a diesel guy.

Peter

Hi Peter,

Thanks for your remark,

I don't know this film which has certainly another title in french....but I'm not a movies' fan....

jpv in France

Jpv - I worked for a French company for many years and saw this 2003 film for the first time in my hotel room in Paris (Levallois). If it helps, the title was "The Italian Job," but was written over with "Braquage à l'italienne."  You can likely search this scene on YouTube if you'd like - under either title.  

The last scene shows the car exterior, and then much of the interior as the stars (including Charlize Theron) do something very French - a champagne toast. 

Peter

Thanks for these details, Peter!

Very french, indeed! one of the good sides of the life! 

A bientôt sur le forum

jpv

Window frames arrived today! now I have work to do: sand paper and file too!

The windowpanes will be transparent blue, the external circumference of the frames in black paint.

Let's go! 

jpv in France

Amazing.

Yes, Max, very accurate parts this guy can do from my drawings!

thanks

jp

I have begun to paint the window frames today; the surplus of black paint on the outside perimeter of the frames you can see is not important; it will be hidden when inserting the frames into the sides of the car.

As I began to work on the superliner sleeper I will open another thread for very soon.

jpv in France

The first windows! 

and once in their locations:

I noticed 2 defaults when fitting:

a little gap on each vertical side,

the window frame is not enough thick to be taller than the side surface (lacks 1 mm). The side is probably a little more than 3 mm thick as planned on the drawings!

I have to modify the concerned 2D and 3D drawings for the next one.

And it's not the appropriate engine to pull this car!  ..........but it's the only one I have today and it was very useful to make the rolling attempts (which were successful )!

And now, c'est l'heure de l'apéritif!!!

jpv in France

That must be disappointing, JP.  Are you going to remake them?

I like the blue, though.

Happy Hour?  It's 6 a.m. Saturday here.  Maybe I'll join you later.  

Cheers     

I will not remake them! this car is a prototype made to correct the mistakes and omissions! the second one will be better but certainly not the best!!!

OK, Max, I'm waiting for you! I will put some "sparkling wine" in a cool place! 

jp

This is my tipple . . .

Product of Hungary. 

Fine choice!

jp

First side is done; here is a shot with the light inside the lower level:

Little gap under the red line..... lining up default! too late, 'can't do otherwise!!!

jpv in France

The windows for the second face are done; I install them today.

I received the pieces for the roof; lack some light pulls of file to fit them together:

Four parts because my friend's 3D printer can't make the roof in one shot!

Now, file, glue and paint!

I'm near the end (almost! )

I remind you that all the 2D drawings, 3D files and . stl files for this car and the other to come are at your disposal; just ask me!

jpv in France

Fantastic work mate I'm really impressed. There are a lot of top modellers in France your at the top!

Roo.

I'm transfixed, JP.

Very appreciate your comments, men! it's....

The roof parts are now together; just lack to fill the little gap beetween each with "Gesso" and sand....

ROO----> some modellers in France are at the top; I'm not and I don't want to be a part of them! I'm just an "amateur" who has a big interest for US railways. And some among this so-called "top" are too pretentious and dreadful; for these guys, if you don't own some prestige brands models, you are not a modeller, more, if you don't work with brass, you are less than nothing! more if you don't work on a french model.... sacrilege!!!!!!!.........and here, the forums are invaded by these idiots! believe me, I have taken some malicious delight to write it when it has been time to say the four truths before leaving! ...

jpv in France

Railride----> I read your question on my mail box but it don't appear on the thread: window glass is from EVERGREEN, transparent sheet of styrene 0,25 mm thick ref # 9902.

jpv in France

Back to the forum after some days of work on my terrace and outside with spring coming!

I began again today with the lights on the upper level:

The little gap between the roof and the face will desappear when these two parts will be glued; I'm waiting for a 3D piece which will connect the roof and the side together all along the car.

jpv in France

I just read through this thread, an amazing project, talk about getting a Superliner the hard way!

How many of these do you plan to build?

Thanks GUNRUNNERJOHN. I began to build the second one, a sleeping car; I will soon open a thread for it.

After...I don't know! but a lounge car would be interesting to build.......

jpv

jpv69 posted:

I began to build the second one, a sleeping car; I will soon open a thread for it.

I am looking forward to that, as I rode across the country on the Capitol Limited, then the Empire Builder (all the way, on each train, from DC to Seattle). So, I spent a few days in sleepers and I have a real affinity for them. I can't wait to see how good of a model you make of one!

This is certainly what you call "real" modeling.   It'll be cool to see detailed pictures when one is done, looks like an impressive build.

Thanks to you all, it makes me very  and pushes me to make the next one better!

Yes, GRJOHN, I will post photos when finished.

Rendez vous on the next thread, P51, and I hope it will remember you the good days you spent in these cars!

Rendez vous for you guys too, obviously!

jpv in France 

Back to the forum!

My "3D Guy" has had many problems with his 3D printer, that's why I didn't write anything!

I received yesterday the last parts I was waiting for: luggage racks for lower and upper level. What's more, the upper level part must be used for the assembly of roof and faces! here is one copy of each lower to the left.

The following 3D drawings show you the way they will be fitted:

Wow, it's hard to read!!! sorry!

It remains now to paint them and fit...

jpv in France

Ctrl+scroll brings them up big enough.

jpv69 posted:

Back to the forum after some days of work on my terrace and outside with spring coming!

I began again today with the lights on the upper level:

The little gap between the roof and the face will desappear when these two parts will be glued; I'm waiting for a 3D piece which will connect the roof and the side together all along the car.

jpv in France

If you're glueing it shut, are you leaving it empty or will you put in any passenger figures?

Spectacular work!

---->WITZ 41: thanks for your comments; once glued together, the roof and the faces remain removable from the other part of the car; I can tell you that passengers have reserved their places! I'm waiting for them!!

jpv in France

Hello,

I made this morning the assembly jig for the roof and the sides of the car; now I let it dry before gluing these parts together!

It's made of cardboad; the roof is held in place by 4 little pieces of cardboard at each side of the jig and verified with a spirit level and locked with clamps; then the side is inserted between the vertical part of the jig and the luggage rack (in brown) to be glued.

Once glued these 2 parts will be turned to 180° to glue the other face to the roof.

Easier to write than to do! 

jpv in France

But good, though. 

Thanks Max!

It's done!

Now, let it dry....before assembly attempt!!!!

jpv in France

Two shots I take today; the car assembly is finished; lack a few details on but it's almost complete!

And now, guess what? The second one! 

jpv in France

You are a glutton for punishment, another one?  BTW, that one looks great, and probably one of the most accurate models of the car around.

Thanks GUNRJ for your comment!

I tried to respect the appearance of this car that you can see everywhere in your country and that I can only see on photos or videos; but it's possible to do a better one! I'm sure! that's why I began a second one and as I have already said, this one is a prototype made to discover errors of different kinds and to correct them; all the 2 and 3D drawings are already modified!

jpv in France

What I'm liking are the sneak looks at your layout, JP.

Lovely trackwork as far as I can see.

Thanks, Max!

Old ROCO track I purchased 30 years ago....and ballast made of real crushed stones made by a french little craftsman who doesn't exist anymore...it's a shame because it was perfect......

jp

Outstanding work. Looking forward to watching progress on the next project.

jpv69 posted:

Railride----> I read your question on my mail box but it don't appear on the thread: window glass is from EVERGREEN, transparent sheet of styrene 0,25 mm thick ref # 9902.

jpv in France

Yeah that

Right after I posted, I looked back through the thread and saw where you already answered the question I asked so I deleted my post. Thanks for re-stating the info, though.

By the way, are your 3D drawings produced with the free version of SketchUp? I suspected that someone had come up with a means of converting SketchUp files to something that could be sent to a 3D printer, but wasn't so sure that also applied to the free version.

---PCJ

CHRISTOPHER N&W----> Thank you for your comment! rendez-vous on the other thread!

RAILRIDE---->I had not understood why your post had been deleted and who had done that!! 

My 3D drawings are made with SKETCHUP Make (the free version); if you want to convert the files for 3D printing (.stl files), you have to download a plug-in via the SKETCHUCATION website. That's all. No need to have the "pro" version.

jpv in France

Hello, fantastic work. I only hope that mine comes half as good as yours.  My name is Robert Brown and I build in 1:32 and attempting to build some Superliner cars in 1:32 and saw your 3d drawings of your trucks on Bing while I was looking for info. on Superliner trucks.  Are you interesting in selling your O gauge 3d drawings so that I could convert them to 1:32?  If you don't, I will understand.  My email is rbrown77138@verizon.net     I have built two 1:32 P42's and some Superliners would look good behind them. I would appreciate your consideration.  I don't sell my work, as this is only for me.  I have threads on gscaletrainforum.com under the name, rbrown7713 and all of my endeavors are mainly in kitbashing. Thanks for your consideration, Robert Brown.

Uh Machinefool, you are aware that Model RR has Superliner plans in an issue back in the mid 1970's.

Thank you very much and I will take a look at those plans, if I can find them, but realize that I am after 3D files of the trucks, thanks, Bob.

---->Robert, I will send you an e-mail today.

jpv in France

Thank you very much, I appreciate your quick response, Bob.

jpv69 posted:

Two shots I take today; the car assembly is finished; lack a few details on but it's almost complete!

 

JPV, Agree with Max... Is that signal bridge something you've built?  Is it available from Shapeways or someplace?  I'm looking to build something similar.

---->Mike,

I have built this signal bridge; you can only find explanations on this forum; I opened a topic in August 2015 where you can find the 2D drawings; if you want more information or more detailed photos of it, you can mail me (it's in my profile) and I would be happy to help you.

jpv in France

Simply incredible. I really need to figure out my own 3D printer so I can get to making stuff like this!

Thanks, Dan!

Hope that your 3D printer give you now satisfaction (I saw the "beast" on your thread).

What brand this machine?

For me, I will buy soon a Creality CR 10S.

JPV in france

jpv69 posted:

 

And now, guess what? The second one! 

 

Wow, this looks GREAT!

Nice 

jpv69 posted:

Two shots I take today; the car assembly is finished; lack a few details on but it's almost complete!

And now, guess what? The second one! 

jpv in France

 

You did a spectacular job on this car.

Thanks guys for your nice comments!

At this day, the second one has begun but now, I'm waiting for a 3D printer; I have modified all the 2D drawings in 3D to make the shell; cutter and rule are not enough accurate to have the quite "perfect" appearance I wish for this passenger car; the first one has defaults that I don't want to see on the second one. I hope to have this 3D printer in the 2 or 3 monthes to come..........Unfortunately, my retirement pension is not stretchable!!!!!!!! 

jpv in France

jpv69 posted:

Thanks, Dan!

Hope that your 3D printer give you now satisfaction (I saw the "beast" on your thread).

What brand this machine?

For me, I will buy soon a Creality CR 10S.

JPV in france

The one I have is a clone machine from China, based on the Prusa I3.

I'm still learning, for sure. The learning curve is a little steep!

Ok Dan, thanks for your answer. I will be soon in front of this steep learning curve.....................

jpv in France

Here are some parts I have re-designed for 3D printing:

Now I need the printer...........

jpv in France

Thanks Jean.  Here is what I have so far in making of the GSI trucks, and I think they will work out well in 1:32. Bob.

Great work, Bob! they look fine! 

Where do you find the springs?

jp

I was going to attempt to make them sprung, but if I had, the gauge of the wire would not look scale, too small,  so the trucks are fixed.  The springs are wrapped around a bolt and then sized.  The wire is actually aluminum, looks more scale.  Your models look beautiful.  All of my 1:32 molds are made, sides, roofs, ends, trucks, and even made molds for the glass roof lounge car.  The lounge car will be the first one that I finish.  Take a look on gscaleforum and everthing is there. Bob.

Here is a video, if I can figure it out, of the finished 1:32 Amtrak Superliner, Bob.

GREAT looking stuff!

Simon

My goodness this stuff is amazing.

How many hours do you have in the Superliner car?

The only guage that I have kept track of is, 3 months making the molds, 1 year building 4 Superliner cars, with interiors. I have to thank jvp69 for the design of the trucks which worked out well. Bob.

I forgot to tell you that the P42 engines were originally LGB locos and I reduced the 1:29 scale down to 1:32 scale, and did the same thing to the Amfleet car.  The Superliner cars were scratch built and then I made molds for them. Bob.

Hello all,

I stopped my model railway activity; too much other things to do: total refit of my condo from groud to ceiling and as I'm now 71, I work more slowly than when I was 30....

I hope to begin again working on this summer...

To answer Jeff, thanks for your comment; but I don't know at all how many time I spent to build this superliner, sorry; many monthes seems to me the good answer!!!

Hello, Bob, how are you!

jpv in France.

Spectacular work, congratulations. Your viaduct layout is fabulous. You cast all the sections?

Nice hearing from you jpv.  Here is another project that I scratchbuilt. A T1 and tender, 1:32, all the rest of the cars are brass. Bob.

About the viaduct, yes, I made the molds and it took 3 years to build, pouring the base and sections one at a time.  I have 45 ft. times four, the full length of my house inside for the switchyard to house my trains. Bob.

Here is my scratch-built E8 a and b. Bob.

Magnificent!

Dan Weinhold

Thank you everyone, I appreciate the cudo's, Bob.

If anyone wants to see most of my work, you can see my posts on:  gscaletrainforum.com     My handle is   rbrown7713