When is the last day for pre-orders?
What am I getting?
I'm getting sadder and sadder that there will be no more MTH catalogs.
@Lehigh74 posted:What am I getting?
I'm getting sadder and sadder that there will be no more MTH catalogs.
Ditto.
@mike.caruso posted:Ditto.
Me too. It's sad about MTH
Disappointed with the lack of LC+2.0 offerings.
Don't know. Something probably 
. Vast amount of stuff for all sorts of interests. I've got too much already, so will probably be one or two things, just to have some fun. Maybe I'll get some more Area 51 stuff. Doesn't get more "toy train" than that.
"I'm getting sadder and sadder that there will be no more MTH catalogs."
Well, I'm sad that I'm getting closer and closer to the inevitable end of life, but I don't let it affect my ability to enjoy a new toy train catalog. Everything passes.
MTH made mostly equipment that appeals to the scale oriented three railer. Seems to me there's plenty of that in this catalog (not my cup of tea, however). I know not everyone can afford this stuff, so that's frustrating I'm sure, but there it is. No need to rain on other people's parade because you prefer MTH, on the other hand.
Really disappointed in the Legacy offerings. Another behemoth (2-10-10-2) that few can afford or even run on a small or even a mid-sized layout. Almost no mid to small freight steam engines, like perhaps a 2-8-0 or 2-6-0? And what happened to the Legacy Mikado's? (I was hoping for a UP Mikado with some other number than 2537.) Also missing in Legacy are the F-3's, F-7's, FA's. Sad.
Just saw this on the NP O-Gaugers Facebook page - hilarious:
This is NOT meant to be a political post. There are a slew of Bernie memes going viral and this just adds to the collection.
As to what I'm getting - not much this year. I'll be getting the Angela Trotta Thomas Christmas shop but that's about it. Would like to see a PRR Camelback in the next catalogue.
-Greg
Page 202, they can't seem to decide if the smallest FasTrack diameter is O31 or O34 (echoes of Marx). Page 72, the Blomberg trucks on the Alco RS-3's are unfortunate, I think. Not visually appealing to me.
@Greg Houser posted:Just saw this on the NP O-Gaugers Facebook page - hilarious:
This is NOT meant to be a political post. There are a slew of Bernie memes going viral and this just adds to the collection.
-Greg
May as well have a meme of Kim K with a caboose on her caboose
I was hoping there would be something of interest for me since this will be the first Lionel catalog out, without the pending MTH catalog...sadly there was not. The Acela is something I always wanted, but I do not have that kind of money in my train fund, plus to be honest I'd like to know if it works better than the original set before I ordered it. Really going to miss MTH. Hopefully 2021 Vol II will have something for me...or maybe this is the universe telling me I have enough trains
I did like the new catalog and I found a few things I would like to have.....but I'm not likely to part with $2.5k for my dream steamer. I do like the John Bull's but the price for conventional keeps me at bay. I just finished an automated back & forth for 3 rail using DC. Although not new, I'm thinking maybe I could integrated the trolley announcement track for fun. I'd have to work Ross track integration and the AC/DC issue but none of that seems insurmountable. Like other folks, I see an opportunity for the MTH price point. Maybe invertors will see it too.
I'll give you a hint of what I'm getting
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It reads on the side description in the first paragraph for the 2-10-10-2's that there will also be Safety Valve Steam as a new feature, but below in listed features it doesn't say this. Can anyone verify this? I am torn between the 2-10-10-2 all black or the Mohawk either New Haven or NYC Lines. Being I have a Mohawk from the last run(still one of my favorites to run despite lack of modern features), I am leaning 2-10-10-2, but it'd help to have that safety valve steam clarified.
And yes the passenger car set pricing is getting a bit out of hand.
Outside of the Amtrak Acela Set and the D&RGW Generator passenger car, it is a pretty uninspiring catalog for my interests. The Acela is out of my budget this year, while I'd be repainting the generator car to Phase I Amtrak so it would be easier to make my own.
I do like the customizable houses. They would be a nice addition to a suburban style layout.
No disrespect to Lionel, but all the fantasy schemes on the Acela seem like a bit of overkill.
That ACL SD70 is calling my name!
@Frank Mulligan posted:The Camden and Amboy John Bull set piques my interest.
Just note that those are conventional if you did not see. I am not interested in them, but saw that at the top and understood because lack of space would be why. If your okay with conventional, you're good to go.
@GOLDRAIL posted:It reads on the side description in the first paragraph for the 2-10-10-2's that there will also be Safety Valve Steam as a new feature, but below in listed features it doesn't say this. Can anyone verify this? I am torn between the 2-10-10-2 all black or the Mohawk either New Haven or NYC Lines. Being I have a Mohawk from the last run(still one of my favorites to run despite lack of modern features), I am leaning 2-10-10-2, but it'd help to have that safety valve steam clarified.
And yes the passenger car set pricing is getting a bit out of hand.
I think Lionel's logic was since they listed it in the description twice they don't have to list it a third time under the features section. Also, I would say the price also shows that the 3000's will have the safety valve feature since the original 3000 did not have the feature and was priced at $2,250. Whereas, these offerings are priced at $2,500. Honestly, I am only basing my thought on past offerings and "Lionel logic."
Two things really stand out to me about the couplers on all the cars. Passenger cars have sprung trucks(with the exception of the Acela/high speed trains), O-Scale freight has Diecast trucks with these descriptions, "with rotating bearing caps" or "Diecast and operating couplers" or "Diecast trucks". Some also say, "Operating couplers with hidden tabs". The only freight cars that have sprung trucks that I saw were in the O-Gauge part of the catalog. That is confusing. Of course too, the catalog are has the "thumb-tack" couplers pictured, but as always, "catalog may differ from finished product." Don't think I will be buying any rolling stock this go around(plus nothing appealing to me for those).
The second thing is way back on the Mohawk page. It says, "a custom weathered version, and two "fantasy" paint schemes". Well, I know the fantasy schemes, the gray and Pacemaker(red), which the Pacemaker also looks weathered. It used to be they stated what was weathered or fantasy(though, I think it is plain to see what is fantasy). Anyone have any idea if any of the black Mohawks are weathered? I zoomed in and they don't look like they are, but what the heck do I know?
