I do not believe there are that many O scale[2 rail] dealers out there but there are clearly enough collectors/modelers to ensure that even a collection this large sells out and most items go at estimates or over depending on how many want a particular item add in "buyers premium" and shipping for most items and there are few real bargains, more perhaps in this collection because of the size and I think there is one more lot to be auctioned. JMO
hibar posted:I do not believe there are that many O scale[2 rail] dealers out there but there are clearly enough collectors/modelers to ensure that even a collection this large sells out and most items go at estimates or over depending on how many want a particular item add in "buyers premium" and shipping for most items and there are few real bargains, more perhaps in this collection because of the size and I think there is one more lot to be auctioned. JMO
In O scale there are not, but it's pretty safe to say that Norm Pullen and Bill Davis were at the auction for the sole purpose of buying to resell. That is their livelihood.
With that said, there weren't all that many bargains. I thought I got two things according to my bids but when I check I guess I didn't (nor did I get a notice of winning anything). God must have known I didn't need them. 
Dear Forum List,
I won both of my bids-Overland B&M buggie and CN grey slab side hopper car - and I felt both were fair purchases when 19% and shipping are included. Considering both painted and weathered I am pleased and at the end of the day that is all that matters.
I was also pleased that if this collection is a barometer of the O scale brass collector and odd and unusual pieces, the O scale community is doing quite well,Thank You.
There was some bargains- Overland Powhatan Arrow set and Sunset UP cars to name a few but overall the 3 auctions have generally been quite successful for the Seacrest family and I anticipate the last 2 remaining will do well also.
A great time to be in O scale 2rail model railroading !!!!!!
John P.Dunn Sr. Scale2Rail Promotions.
Strasburg show 08-12-2017 & 10-14-2017
Bob3 - - - Put me in your will !! Thought that item would pair up nicely with my Colorado & Southern steam wrecking derrick #99001, in a wreck train. Congrats.......looks like a nice piece.
About how long does it take the auction company to send billing for won items?
Thanks for the info.
Dick
CBQer posted:About how long does it take the auction company to send billing for won items?
Thanks for the info.
Dick
By the end of this week.
hibar posted:I do not believe there are that many O scale[2 rail] dealers out there but there are clearly enough collectors/modelers to ensure that even a collection this large sells out and most items go at estimates or over depending on how many want a particular item add in "buyers premium" and shipping for most items and there are few real bargains, more perhaps in this collection because of the size and I think there is one more lot to be auctioned. JMO
No sour grapes here, as I didn't bid on any of the lots, but I think anyone at the auction had a distinct advantage as to getting in the last bid. The listings on Ebay were (in my opinion) nothing more than a distraction.
I agree that there were likely very few bargains.
As for lack of O 2R dealers, not too many Pros, but someone is always selling this or that on the auction or at local shows.
Simon
Simon Winter posted:No sour grapes here, as I didn't bid on any of the lots, but I think anyone at the auction had a distinct advantage as to getting in the last bid. The listings on Ebay were (in my opinion) nothing more than a distraction.
Simon
That is not true. If you were bidding online via Stout / invaluable.com you were live and the floor has no advantage. I was there for the first two auctions and wrote about it on the May/June O Scale Resource http://oscaleresource.com/
If you watch the short video linked from there watch the auctioneer go to the monitor (Internet) for the opening bid and then back to the floor. One person is always watching the monitor for bids. There were may times that people on the floor, and remember we are talking less then 10 to15 that actually show up in person, were not happy as the Internet bids kept popping up at the last second and he would go back to the floor and start the "fair warning" all over again.
railroad-guy posted:Simon Winter posted:No sour grapes here, as I didn't bid on any of the lots, but I think anyone at the auction had a distinct advantage as to getting in the last bid. The listings on Ebay were (in my opinion) nothing more than a distraction.
Simon
That is not true. If you were bidding online via Stout / invaluable.com you were live and the floor has no advantage. I was there for the first two auctions and wrote about it on the May/June O Scale Resource http://oscaleresource.com/
If you watch the short video linked from there watch the auctioneer go to the monitor (Internet) for the opening bid and then back to the floor. One person is always watching the monitor for bids. There were may times that people on the floor, and remember we are talking less then 10 to15 that actually show up in person, were not happy as the Internet bids kept popping up at the last second and he would go back to the floor and start the "fair warning" all over again.
If you are there, all you need do is raise your hand. Unless all that was needed was to punch ONE key, they were at a distinct advantage. My typing skills are less than stellar, and sometimes the old PC gets a bit balky/ stupid........couldn't be me! 
Ever hit a key and have NOTHING happen? My right arm seldom malfunctions.
Simon
PS: Forgot to mention, but had a bit of a thunder storm pass through last evening, and the power went off for a bit. Any of your relatives named Murphy?
By the way, THANKS for the GREAT job you do with the "O Scale Resource"
Simon Winter posted:If you are there, all you need do is raise your hand. Unless all that was needed was to punch ONE key, they were at a distinct advantage. My typing skills are less than stellar, and sometimes the old PC gets a bit balky/ stupid........couldn't be me!
Simon
That is it. One click of the mouse IF you were bidding and watching via the Stout site. Ane because it's so easy, just as if you were there, you can get "auction fever" and do really stupid things 
railroad-guy posted:Simon Winter posted:If you are there, all you need do is raise your hand. Unless all that was needed was to punch ONE key, they were at a distinct advantage. My typing skills are less than stellar, and sometimes the old PC gets a bit balky/ stupid........couldn't be me!
Simon
That is it. One click of the mouse IF you were bidding and watching via the Stout site. Ane because it's so easy, just as if you were there, you can get "auction fever" and do really stupid things
I dunno Dan.
I bid on two items via the bidding console and placed multiple bids online was certain that I was high bidder at auction end according to the "green" number and bids displayed. I won neither.
I suspect someone onsite got in and the hammer fell because I was ready to bid up on both as soon as the console flashed the new bid price but it never did.
So at least to me, using the bidding console wasn't fruitful.
I likewise bid online (for the first time) twice and both were before bidding had stopped on the items I wanted. I won one item and did not win the next even though my bid was higher than the winning bid! Whatever happened to my online bid that did not win I don't know.
Bear in mind the speed of your internet connection can be a factor, I have a Verizon copper wire connection and speeds typically are well under 3 Mbps [no Fios available here] in comparison Comcast offers up to 25 Mbps speed. I would never attempt to bid on Ebay or an Ebay auction with a last second bid[snipe] with my service [learned that a long time ago] JMO
hibar posted:Bear in mind the speed of your internet connection can be a factor, I have a Verizon copper wire connection and speeds typically are well under 3 Mbps [no Fios available here] in comparison Comcast offers up to 25 Mbps speed. I would never attempt to bid on Ebay or an Ebay auction with a last second bid[snipe] with my service [learned that a long time ago] JMO
Yep, internet speed can play a part but in my case it was not. The bid console refreshed quickly, at least for me, though the initial load was kind of slow.
I wasn't physically there so I can't refute the bid system. I just know that I was green and the last bid on two things yet didn't win.
NBD, the LORD knows I don't need any other trains I was hoping to get some unpainted and then sell off my painted pieces that aren't good for my RR area.
Rule292 posted:I wasn't physically there so I can't refute the bid system. I just know that I was green and the last bid on two things yet didn't win.
Awwwwww Rob,
Doncha know the whole thing is run by computer, and NOTHING can ever go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong
Simon
I don't know how God feels about it, but my wife knows I have way too many trains. She is usually right.
Simon Winter posted:Rule292 posted:I wasn't physically there so I can't refute the bid system. I just know that I was green and the last bid on two things yet didn't win.
Awwwwww Rob,
Doncha know the whole thing is run by computer, and NOTHING can ever go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong, go wrong
Simon
Not a computer problem... keyboard operator problem for me I'm sure!
I had one item at the part II auction that the system wasn't even quite sure I had won because it didn't show a winner until the after the auction email. There has always been a delay after the highest bid to see if someone else wants to bid for a couple of seconds. It's the longest ~2 seconds in the world.
I have Comcast and live in California so my delays are probably similiar to anyone other than a modem user. Speed has little to do with the delay only distance. If you are still a modem user its time to upgrade or stay away from ALL real time online activities, too frustrating.
But, IMO prebidding or Ebay bidding is silly and, unless you do a closeout bid high enough to scare others away you won't win. And by that I mean a thousand dollar bid on something that shouldn't go for more than a hundred dollars. The real time online bidding is equal to being there and I have never lost a lot I wanted in almost 8 years of participating in their online auctions.
I have noticed some of the Jim Seacrest GGD Car's have already shown up On eBay, pretty modestly priced too.
I have noticed some of the Jim Seacrest GGD Passenger Car's have already shown up On eBay, pretty modestly priced too.
rdunniii "But, IMO prebidding or Ebay bidding is silly and, unless you do a closeout bid high enough to scare others away you won't win".
I'm not sure what you mean by that. On ebay I look at an item after I am convinced it's what I want and happy with the seller's information I put in a bid for the highest price I want to go PLUS the shipping to West Australia that is important as it is a part of the cost then I leave it and hope for the best. Of course if it's "buy it now" and the price is right there is no waiting or hoping. I have won many Auctions doing this maybe you would consider my offers are high and they might be, but I can't go to shows to compare anything so my offer is what I consider it's worth to me only I don't resell any of my trains.
If there is a case of really desperately wanting something and that is unusual for me I will try sniping them at the end I only try this with certain items (not Trains). Trains I don't care if I lose the auction for me there are plenty more sooner or later but these other items I am interested in are few and far between so I adopt a different tactic.
I only use auctions on eBay not anywhere else because I like to see the shipping costs in front of me before I bid I think at other auctions you don't have this control again this is shipping to West Australia where the shipping costs can go through the roof if you leave it to someone else to do believe you me I know I have been caught but only once on shipping sometimes something might be damaged I just fix it and live with it again this is rare and I buy a lot of things. Funny enough most of the well known American hobby shops are usually very good with shipping costs they seem to know what overseas customers expect to pay and charge a fair price mostly dealing through the US post office some of them will tell you the shipping costs before sending so everybody is happy.
I don't want to get into naming and recommending hobby shops and I state I am not a regular customer with NassauHobby but I wanted six covered 2 bay EL hoppers they had them listed on their website they do international shipping I had them within three weeks and the shipping charge was good they had my credit card details they are trusted I had no hassles and I had never dealt with them before it's just at the time I wanted what they had I was happy. I'm going to bed I have had enough of this I'm tired. Roo.
Got the wrong locos. We will see what happens.
Dick
Got a call from the auction house. They will get it figured out.
Dick
Looks like they got it straightened. Got a 2 day air return tag. Great service.
Dick
looks like you might have my main central E-7s . Just got my return tags. we should be reunited with our purchases in the very near future. those 3RD rail E-7 Burlington units are a work of art . you probably out bid me on them. enjoy!!!
Yes , I did. Sent them back yesterday. I was worried that I would have to paint those MECs CB&Q colors. When you get them I pulled back the foam sheeting to look at them but never moved them from the cradle.
Enjoy.
Dick
When is the next group to be presented?
bob2 posted:When is the next group to be presented?
There is this handy gizmo called the Internet. If you search for the Stout site, I'm sure they will have it listed.
Simon
Stoutauctions.com. Auctions are announced about a week in advance. Sign up for their newsletter and they will email you with upcoming dates.
I got my pair of beautiful, fantastic E7 CB&Q locos today. Happy as a pig in stuff.
My thanks to Strout Auctions.
Dick
Everything I’ve bought, 3 large boxes worth came immaculate and very well packed. Nice job Stout Auctions top marks. Looking forward with great enthusiasm to the next shipment.
And I got my main Centrals that Dick got by mistake . Although it was tough to part with the cb&q s that were his.Enjoy!!!
Funny or not funny you guys finally got your engines. I just got my invoice for the same auction yesterday for the CB&Q waycars that I won.
suzukovich posted:Funny or not funny you guys finally got your engines. I just got my invoice for the same auction yesterday for the CB&Q waycars that I won.
Ha, I just got my invoice yesterday too... i am sure they are busy, will be happy to receive my items, everything was perfect from the last 2 times so no doubt this will be great too!
I didn't bid on any models and only gave the list a cursory look. But, a 3R friend who is converting to 2R, bid and purchased a USH 2-10-2. Turns out, it was the same highly modified USH model I purchased from a UK builder back in 1995 and had to sell in 1999 due to a family need.
My friend graciously agreed to sell it to me and now it's back home. I looked for this model for 18 years, questioned any dealer I spoke with, but all to no avail. Now, knowing it was in Jim's collection, answers why it just vanished.
Anyway, I too am a happy camper due to this auction and never let it be said O scalers don't take care of each other. 
Thanks again Will.
Hopefully, Jim can see how much joy he's spread throughout the O community.
BH
Hello O scalers ...the next Seacrest auction is online and ready for you to bid
http://www.stoutauctions.com/?p=366
very happy with the two lots I won last auction ...excellent shipping
Cheers Carey
Thank you. I did bid.
How do these people organize this stuff? Why are similar or identical cars showing up in different auctions? I got a PSC 60 Harriman car that was painted but I wanted an unpainted one. Since there was no other like it I bid. Now the same car shows unpainted... this means whoever wanted that rock island baggage is now gonna have to paint the undecirated and I'm gonna have to remove a paint job I didn't need to.
The big problem is that they did not have everything at one time. Two trailers came in and were sorted. The after the first or second auction they went back and loaded more. There was absolutely no rhyme or reason as to how these stuff was stored at Jim's place. There was no possible way to bring everything thing in at once.
SANTIAGOP23 posted:How do these people organize this stuff? Why are similar or identical cars showing up in different auctions? I got a PSC 60 Harriman car that was painted but I wanted an unpainted one. Since there was no other like it I bid. Now the same car shows unpainted... this means whoever wanted that rock island baggage is now gonna have to paint the undecirated and I'm gonna have to remove a paint job I didn't need to.
Boy are they going to lose money on that deal!
Wonder what it will cost them to not only take your car back from Santiago but to ship your car to you!
