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briansilvermustang posted:

 

       looks great Lou !

        how about a siding down this roadway for some street running...

 

 

Not enough room to make it look good. I thought about it but it won't look good. 

I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do in the space between the station and the siding switch. It's just flat and empty right now. Needs something. 

 

             Mark says, " Brian, some folks just don’t like an adventure!  LOL "

 

             hmmm??!!?...   sidings for all levels... 

         c'mon BOB...  can't be that hard...    send her some flowers... 

 

               yeah !   I don't see no problem... 

 

 

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It took me three hours to dig through boxes to find all my Thomas the Tank Engine stuff. I have been buying this stuff for two years at open-air markets, yard sales, etc., and I wanted to see what I had.

I didn't like most of what I had, and I've already started giving it away.

But four-year-old Christian Neighbor (That's his real name) had a blast and went home with a small treasure trove.

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I started detailing my last passenger car set, the Lionel 21" 1927010, 1927020, 1927030, and 1927040 Santa Fe 9-car set.  It has been a while since I painted cars and Preiser 65602 Seated People, so all Testor Acrylic Flat paints had to be mixed again.

I started with the most difficult car, the 1927030 Santa Fe Sound-Stations Great Dome #550.  The lower level was painted first as I checked the final appearance of the new paint mixes. The lower level has two passenger restrooms and an office for what I call a nurses office with two beds and private restroom.

The upper level has the Great Dome seating, painted in a 60-40 mixture of Testor's Acryl Flat White and Earth Red.  The seats will need three coats of paint to create a solid color without bleed-through. The Preiser Seated People will need serious grinding of feet and bottoms to lower them into the Great Dome.  The Dome Floor is not adjustable and is part of the car body mold.  (The Santa Fe Vista Dome Floor and Seating can be lowered and adjusted.)  

Here are a few pictures of today's work.  I placed a figure in the Dome Seating to show how low the people must be made to sit. I may need to remove more rear ends/bottoms as I get ready to add all the people.  The roof snaps on the Great Dome and has releases at either end of the Dome with four side snaps as well.  Painting the Dome Seats needs great care not to get paint on the silver painted sides of the car.

Have a good evening.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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It was a tear down day on my railroad too.  I took up 36 sections of track and three switches.  Two lazy switches were the scene of too many derailments.  Replaced.   I found room for two new short spurs.  Now I can keep my passenger cars on the track and ready.  I put 15 sections back down this evening.  I'll have the main line open in a couple days.  I will have to rewire seven lighted structures.

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Say "Good Night" Gracie.

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Well the "party train" is home from its Boston/NYC week long trip.  We came back with the same number of passengers that we left  with from NH.  Only one mechanical failure that was quickly repaired.  Everyone had a fun time except for a few hangovers.  The crew in the dining car was pumping out "cure burgers" & Mimosas on New Years Day. (Cure Burger = burger, bacon , cheddar & a sunny side up egg with chipotle sauce on the side.)

Namaste!

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Matt, I am certainly glad you returned to New Hampshire with the same number of passengers as you left with.  The question begs to be asked.  Were they all the same passengers????   Kidding aside, I have never taking a train trip with a large group, but I have taken several bus trips from Butler Pennsylvania to Washington DC, and I know it was a constant concern to make sure everyone was still with us.

Great looking excursion train and layout!  I always enjoy your posts!!

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Bob, looks like a great project!  So is there a less steep access to the upper level since you said you would make it a spur?  

Yes Mark- on the other side of the layout. The grade is still steep but not as bad. Here's an old photo from when I started building.

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Brian, Paul, and Matt- You guys do realize that I'm on the cliff hangin' by my fingernails already.

I did have this plan in mind before I gave up my remaining space to my son and his gaming set up.

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I'd long ago decided to make a fictional insignia for the railroad operating Battalion on my layout, and I finally drew it last night.

I'm going to put it on signs in their facility and stuff like that. I decided to draw it out on paper, as someone would have done in real life.
I drew the stump underneath the locomotive, alluding maybe to something that it happened to one of their engines in the past.

Originally, I was going to do it with a ET&WNC ten wheeler locomotive, but I realized I would be very complex and hard to put on an Insignia. An Army 'trench' locomotive made a lot more sense.

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Brian, sure is a lot of Amtrak cars! They are going to look great with the collection you already have!

Sharp Hanger, The new platform for you station looks great! I like how you populated it with all the people just as Mark had stated!

Bob, Looks like a good change. You could always use the space where the grade went up and make it into a road coming down from the mountain!

Lou, Looks Great! What a wonderful improvement! Love the Brewery!

Vincent, Way to get the younger generation involved in trains! Shows a big heart!

John R, Nice to see you back painting the passenger cars! You do such great work, its a pleasure to see your post of what you do!

Matt, Great pictures and video's of such a wonderful looking layout! I love the story that you put along with them. I am also glad that all the passengers had a fun time and got back safe!

Well yesterday a friend and I did some work in the train room and the garage. I know its not on the layout but it will make a big improvement for the train room. We spent all day installing mini split ductless heaters/AC units in both the Train room and garage. I still have some clean up, but the good thing is it will be warm in the winter and cool in the summer!

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I hope everyone has a Great Monday! I also hope you all get time for your trains and layouts!

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p51 posted:

I'd long ago decided to make a fictional insignia for the railroad operating Battalion on my layout, and I finally drew it last night.

I'm going to put it on signs in their facility and stuff like that. I decided to draw it out on paper, as someone would have done in real life.
I drew the stump underneath the locomotive, alluding maybe to something that it happened to one of their engines in the past.

Originally, I was going to do it with a ET&WNC ten wheeler locomotive, but I realized I would be very complex and hard to put on an Insignia. An Army 'trench' locomotive made a lot more sense.

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Lee, wonderful idea! Looks great! I cant wait to see them around the complex!

mike g. posted:

Bob, Looks like a good change. You could always use the space where the grade went up and make it into a road coming down from the mountain!

Well yesterday a friend and I did some work in the train room and the garage. I know its not on the layout but it will make a big improvement for the train room. We spent all day installing mini split ductless heaters/AC units in both the Train room and garage. I still have some clean up, but the good thing is it will be warm in the winter and cool in the summer!

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I hope everyone has a Great Monday! I also hope you all get time for your trains and layouts!

The remaining track will be leveled out and be a spur off the upper loop. I can always use more space to park cars!

Those ductless splits are great Mike. Good for humidity control too!

The crew at Vetter Storm and Dash have just received a new drill press and they are transferring it from the Lexington Park and Savannah flat that just brought it in from Milwaukee.  The truck will take it around the back to the loading door where she will be set up in the shop and working before 2nd shift tonight. 

 

 

The RR maintenance dept got called by the Freight Station crew that the "necessary" needed some repair.  So they dispatched a crew to do the job.

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Lee, wonderful idea! Looks great! I cant wait to see them around the complex!

Thanks, Mike. I used to know of someone who could make patches in very small numbers. I really wish he could still do that now, as it'd be great to make a dozen or so of these as a shoulder patch (and get a reproduction WW2 figure shirt to sew them onto). Better would be if someone could make them as unit crests (that sure would confuse military insignia collectors), but that'd cost a small fortune...

It'd be hilarious if I could have done that, to put them on a set of WW2 class As and show up at a re-enactment!

Lee, You might want to search for someone who does custom embroidery (Team jackets and the like) in small quantities using computerized machines (Janome, Brother, Bernina). By going to a store that sells these you can find someone who does it as a home/hobby business. Take them the original artwork full sized and the Pantone colors and the material you want the patches made on - you might be pleasantly surprised. I bought some great T shirts at an Eddie Bauer outlet store (<$8 each) and had a local place embroider "Southern Adirondack Railway Cartel" on them as Xmas presents for the guys in our train group at a price less than the shirts. You can contact me off site if you go this route and can't get it done locally.

As great as my Christmas layout looked, I had loads of issues, mostly due to my own faults and rushing to get it completed by Christmas morning. The new control system worked beautifully, but both locomotives are running only when they feel like it. I want to blame the e-units as the whistling tenders are working great. Neither loco has been serviced to my knowledge, so I'm going to look at doing that first

Today the Postman dropped off a box and I unpacked it. This beauty was inside:

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After changing out the couplers to the hidden-tab type (I have standardized on them because the remote-uncouplers&car-stoppers are spaced accordingly) the new car went into the interchange yard (fiddle yard).

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"built by Pullman Standard Butler, Pa" 

I like the level of detailing on these MTH PS-2CD cars, nice paintwork&lettering but not too delicate for old arthritic hands to handle without [too much] damage. 

This car fits into my developing scheme of having a car on the PER for each road I have ridden. Still need Reading, Western Pacific, Mopac and Amtrak. Some small lines like the Apache railroad (White Mountains of Aridzona), the East Broad Top, the Penn View Mountain Railroad (Blairsville, Pa) and the Oil Creek & Titusville prolly not gonna' happen.

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RSJB18, Bob, I’m glad to see you make changes in your layout, that’s Progress, also DECOYNH, I like your layout and the videos, Wow, also Lew, really nice car the postman delivered, very colorful, and Lew, your layout is really cool, CC4FB7E8-7A23-4EB9-A5A7-8C59370D6CFCAF71E02D-1C75-48C3-BCFA-40D9C74BD300A5BD459D-F787-4E5A-A65F-B4D106B6DCF434F7EE38-47A6-4A6B-A7C6-AC88C3FB52C6FEE2A196-4C58-478B-9813-F4AF310F7F0F96296E02-18DB-4CC5-BF62-31FC237FAEC4and Mike G, it’s great to see you’ve had a little railroad time, and Trumptrain, your pictures are also exciting and colorful. Today, I actually hooked up the street lights, it’s more work than I had anticipated and crawling under the table wasn’t quite as easy as it used to be.... But, there had to be Light. Have a great week everyone.  

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sidehack posted:

not on the layout but hopefully for it, reverse engineering a building, first CAD design then test design to see if it will print ok, so far looks good.

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Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  I know that you have a special 3D printer, but does it work off of a photo segment or do you need to enter data and dimensions, etc or both?   Would like more information on the process.   What a valuable tool!   Thanks!

Cheers, Dave

Bob I like the changes you are making to the grade...  Can you tell me more about the block wall under the upper level track to the right of the portal,,, that's really nice looking stone work ?

Lou,  The work you're doing is a major improvement, well worth the effort.   

LEAPINLARRY:   Great photos... you did  nice job of not letting the camera compensate for the lack of light so the night time view would look right. 

Ray,  the 3D print of that turn of the century window assembly is awesome !!  Nice work. 

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John Rowlen,  incredible work on the interior of the Santa Fe streamliners.  

I had a great day, drove up toward NH and picked up my Christmas present a pair of Golden Gate Depot O scale 3 rail Brass Heavyweight Pullman cars, an observation car and a diner....   I'll take photos later tonight when I go back down stairs to work....   My daughter who started working this past July 4th, practically bought them for me with a cash gift at Christmas....  I have been helping her move into her new apartment and buying her some things she needed, but it was heartwarming to get such a thoughtful gift.   I had told her before Christmas that I really wanted to buy these cars after seeing them at a local show in early December.  

I am determined to finish installing a pair of Tortoise machines on the crossover to the Mine Run, and hopefully I will get my double red dwarf signals installed on the passenger yard tracks which will indicate when the last car on the train is within 4 inches of the bumper at the end of the spur....  

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Thank you Mark, also your layout is coming along nicely and I really like the ceiling layout, it’s awesome. Please post more of your pictures for the new comers to see. Everyone’s layouts have features that we can enjoy and learn from. Tomorrow I plan on hooking up more lights and powering more track blocks. 

That's the thing, isn't it?  Also, everyone's layout has a different character / ambience which I enjoy as well.

Progress on the 1927030 Santa Fe Great Dome #550 is moving forward. I finished the three coats of paint on the seats and tables.  I am now slowly grinding the selected figures to fit in their places.  I started with the tables in the rear of the car.

I stopped for the night after making a grinding mistake on a figure.  Tomorrow I will continue inserting people to the front of the Great Dome Car.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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darlander posted:
sidehack posted:

not on the layout but hopefully for it, reverse engineering a building, first CAD design then test design to see if it will print ok, so far looks good.

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Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  I know that you have a special 3D printer, but does it work off of a photo segment or do you need to enter data and dimensions, etc or both?   Would like more information on the process.   What a valuable tool!   Thanks!

Cheers, Dave

Dave, I wish it were that easy, I need to build a full 3d model in CAD (yes dimensions,surfaces, solids etc.), make an STL file from that, then put it through a "slicer program" which isn't difficult, it produces a program that the 3D printer cad read and then if all the printer settings are right it's time to make a part. Then in anywhere from 30 minutes to many hours we have what you see there. That wall with window took just over an hour and luckily was correct the first time. Yes to me this is the future but unless you have the STL file that someone else makes then you need to learn how to create models in a CAD system. When I need or want something I can probably make it.

If I can help you in any way just ask.

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John Rowlen posted:

Progress on the 1927030 Santa Fe Great Dome #550 is moving forward. I finished the three coats of paint on the seats and tables.  I am now slowly grinding the selected figures to fit in their places.  I started with the tables in the rear of the car.

I stopped for the night after making a grinding mistake on a figure.  Tomorrow I will continue inserting people to the front of the Great Dome Car.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

John, you are doing great modeling there and it took me right back. This is what one of those Great Domes looked like from the inside:

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Smart-**s young gazer in foreground.

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Geysergazer, Lew, you are so correct, every layout has its own theme, Sense of humor, ambiance is a better description. John Rowlen, your great at making the Lionel passenger cars look better, your patience in painting the small people and taking the cars apart is awesome. Chris A., your layout is coming alive and looking so real. Your like Norm Charboneau, (probably mis-spelled), so great at weathering, construction technics, and more. I had people added to some of my passenger cars. Happy Railroading.516ABD3E-3180-4F93-BFCD-45E20349603CE33C136D-66AE-4ECD-9E29-AD2CF9ED0BFA84EEEC16-7E5C-4491-B80F-C70195AC385DA4F684B2-E7B6-4724-9697-93FBCA50740B2A30B164-EA16-45B1-8777-572939DE0793

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leapinlarry posted:

Thank you Mark, also your layout is coming along nicely and I really like the ceiling layout, it’s awesome. Please post more of your pictures for the new comers to see. Everyone’s layouts have features that we can enjoy and learn from. Tomorrow I plan on hooking up more lights and powering more track blocks. 

Thank you, Larry!  I hope to be posting more, and doing more soon.  This fall has been busy, but hopefully I’ll have more time.  Two days before Christmas we finally closed on selling my parents’ house after 2 1/2 years.  I am finally getting around better after knee replacement surgery Nov 5th, and we have all of the holiday work and activities behind us.  
I’ll look forward to seeing more lights on your layout!!

I spent 13 hours chasing a short that developed while making track changes.  The short was between main line track power and O22 switch fixed voltage.  I found and fixed that short.  One switch, that I did not mess with,  got a short between the anti-derail isolated rails.  I will replace switch #3 tomorrow.  

My waterbed is calling me.

Bill

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After finishing the new pilot for the 2-8-0 consolidation, I decided I needed to add a few more details.   The head light and tender backup light needed the addition of prototypical number boards.   So the past few days I have been devoted to some more copper and brass construction.    I was motivated by the fact that I bought a new variable wattage soldering iron for this project and I was looking for more things to do with it.

Since the parts were so small, I made some wooden forms to help support and hole the pieces in alignment for soldering.   I also added a prototypical hand hold to the stock number plate below the front headlight.  

In 1930, the DM&IRR required shades be added to all locomotives cabs, so that was another requirement I had to complete.

I sprayed a coat of ACE gloss black enamel to the areas that received new decals.   I still need to spray the entire engine with a coat of matte finish to complete the project.    Tomorrow, Tomorrow!

So the next step, couple up an ore drag and see it in action!

Cheers to everyone for all the great posts!   Keep on Training!!

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Dave,   Stunning !!!   those details really make an incredible difference....   We need to get you some air tanks for the top of the boiler...   Thanks for sharing the details of how you made the small wood forms for the soldering operation, and I forgot to mention how good the decals look.....   Amazing transformation into a meaningful prototypical model for your layout.   

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Dave,   Stunning !!!   those details really make an incredible difference....   We need to get you some air tanks for the top of the boiler...   Thanks for sharing the details of how you made the small wood forms for the soldering operation, and I forgot to mention how good the decals look.....   Amazing transformation into a meaningful prototypical model for your layout.   

Thanks Chris and Mark!  Yes, I have been thinking about the air tanks.  I would have to move the bell forward to make room.   It would be a unique addition.   Maybe someday when I run out of things to do, I'll make it happen.

Cheers, Dave

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sidehack posted:
darlander posted:

Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  I know that you have a special 3D printer, but does it work off of a photo segment or do you need to enter data and dimensions, etc or both?   Would like more information on the process.   What a valuable tool!   Thanks!

Cheers, Dave

Dave, I wish it were that easy, I need to build a full 3d model in CAD (yes dimensions,surfaces, solids etc.), make an STL file from that, then put it through a "slicer program" which isn't difficult, it produces a program that the 3D printer cad read and then if all the printer settings are right it's time to make a part. Then in anywhere from 30 minutes to many hours we have what you see there. That wall with window took just over an hour and luckily was correct the first time. Yes to me this is the future but unless you have the STL file that someone else makes then you need to learn how to create models in a CAD system. When I need or want something I can probably make it.

If I can help you in any way just ask.

Thanks Ray for the reply.   I assumed it was a more complicated process.   I have purchased a few detail parts that were 3D printed.   I have a good friend that works at the Mayo Clinic imaging research division here in Rochester.  They have the luxury of scanning actual parts that they can then mirror, twist, you name it, and then a printer makes a perfect copy.    I think he said that they can even print in titanium!    The world is getting too techie for me.   I used a slide rule throughout my schooling and and this includes graduate school.    I'm sure there are people reading this that might need to look up the word "slide rule".

Cheers, Dave

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Bob I like the changes you are making to the grade...  Can you tell me more about the block wall under the upper level track to the right of the portal,,, that's really nice looking stone work ?


 

Chris- the walls are printed on plain paper and mounted to thin card stock. To give some dimension to the wall I built out the corners. The print out came from textures.com . The site has tons of great images for download.

Here's some more pix of the build. The wall facing the track is removable to hide the wiring for this corner of the layout.

Thanks

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darlander posted:
sidehack posted:
darlander posted:

Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  

Cheers, Dave

Dave, I wish it were that easy, 

Thanks Ray for the reply.   I assumed it was a more complicated process.   The world is getting too techie for me.   I used a slide rule throughout my schooling and and this includes graduate school.    I'm sure there are people reading this that might need to look up the word "slide rule".

Cheers, Dave

Well Dave, I don't need to look up what a slide rule is. But I did graduate to the more techie version of a slide rule known as the circular slide rule! Best invention since sliced bread for a physics major - you could even stick it in your shirt pocket without knocking your front teeth out!!

George

CoastsideKevin posted:

Painted a bunch of Bachmann figures I found in a box. Not perfect, but good enough for my purposes. Nice to finally have some people on my railroad. Build it and they will come!

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They look great, Kevin - can't have too many people on a layout IMHO, over 400 on Warrenville.

I cut the bases off mine.  Sometimes I make the people different by cutting off arms, heads, etc and gluing them back in different positions. Also, by trimming hats or filing them off completely.

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darlander posted:
sidehack posted:
darlander posted:

Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  

Cheers, Dave

Dave, I wish it were that easy, 

Thanks Ray for the reply.   I assumed it was a more complicated process.   The world is getting too techie for me.   I used a slide rule throughout my schooling and and this includes graduate school.    I'm sure there are people reading this that might need to look up the word "slide rule".

Cheers, Dave

Well Dave, I don't need to look up what a slide rule is. But I did graduate to the more techie version of a slide rule known as the circular slide rule! Best invention since sliced bread for a physics major - you could even stick it in your shirt pocket without knocking your front teeth out!!

George

I knew I had one around here, now I just have to remember how to use it!

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chris a posted:

Thanks Mark and Geopeg:   It pays to keep going to local train shows and church every Sunday.    I told my wonderful daughter what I was looking at (hint, hint),  and got a gracious gift from her. So it just makes the passenger cars even more special !   

That’s right!  The Sunday train shows are a bit too far for me to attend after church.  There really isn’t enough time to make it worthwhile, so I go to Saturday shows.  Your daughter did very well!

I am starting the second of nine Lionel Santa Fe 21" Passenger cars today. The Great Dome is done, and the Dome Coach is in progress with the painting of the seats.  This car has a full coach on the lower level as well as the Vista Dome seating.  The Vista Dome coach comes in the 1927040 2-pack.

Here are a few pictures as I do the three coats of painting before adding the Preiser 65602 Seated People I painted.

Have a  good day working on your railroad.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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I fixed my switch issues.  A defective controller was the final answer.  All switches now work.  I'm taking an afternoon nap.  Three days of electrical combat is enough. 

John R.,  I have added "put people in passenger cars" to my railroad punch list.

Chris A.,  Beautiful cars at your station.

While scrounging in my garage, I noticed I have the fundamentals for a drive in theater, complete with VHS/DVD player.  Seems like an excuse for another "to do" for the list.  I'll start by showing a double feature, "The Blob" and "Attack of the killer Tomatoes."  $3.00 per car.

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I fixed my switch issues.  A defective controller was the final answer.  All switches now work.  I'm taking an afternoon nap.  Three days of electrical combat is enough. 

John R.,  I have added "put people in passenger cars" to my railroad punch list.

Chris A.,  Beautiful cars at your station.

While scrounging in my garage, I noticed I have the fundamentals for a drive in theater, complete with VHS/DVD player.  Seems like an excuse for another "to do" for the list.  I'll start by showing a double feature, "The Blob" and "Attack of the killer Tomatoes."  $3.00 per car.

I'm making the popcorn.......

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Ray, I am very intrigued by your ability to print scale parts.  

Cheers, Dave

Dave, I wish it were that easy, 

Thanks Ray for the reply.   I assumed it was a more complicated process.   The world is getting too techie for me.   I used a slide rule throughout my schooling and and this includes graduate school.    I'm sure there are people reading this that might need to look up the word "slide rule".

Cheers, Dave

Well Dave, I don't need to look up what a slide rule is. But I did graduate to the more techie version of a slide rule known as the circular slide rule! Best invention since sliced bread for a physics major - you could even stick it in your shirt pocket without knocking your front teeth out!!

George

I knew I had one around here, now I just have to remember how to use it!

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Meet my old trustworthy Post!   Bought it in the fall of 1956!   Never had to change batteries or recharge it!   The Slide "Rules"!

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What'd I do? I repaired a pair of K-Line passenger trucks. I recently acquired an 18" K-Line extruded aluminum retired business car in PRR livery:

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Of the three K-Line cars of the PER two of them including this one have a case of the wobbles. That is, they don't sit stable on the trucks but rather wobble side-to-side disconcertingly when in motion. I quickly changed out a pair of good trucks and put the business car on the line but I wanted to see if I could do a repair. If I have two cars doing it there are probably a thousand out there with the same issue. So I dissected the trucks completely including driving out the center pins.

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Lew, that’s a great tip, I’m glad you solved the issue and that’s a beautiful car. It’s always nice when we can solve a problem without having to send it to e repair shop. What I did on my layout today was replace a toggle switch to an electronic switch via my last BPC which has 1 more space left. I like being able to turn on/off blocks with the Cab 2. It’s so convenient and now there’s 19 separate blocks on my layout. Hope everyone is doing fine today. Happy Railroading DCE22430-1700-4417-977E-1003ABC8CD1E5550A9BA-2E4F-4B66-88D3-D875447443CF

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decoynh posted:

Thanks Lew. I have a KLine baggage car that has the “wobbles”. I’ll follow your detailed instructions. 

Matt, when you tap the center-pin out back up the underside so you don't twist the truck frame. I used the age-old trick of a socket of the correct size. It takes a couple tries to get a feel for how hard to tap on that dimple to flatten it. Also, flattening the dimple works the metal around the center-pin hole such that the center-pin is too tight a fit. Ream the hole carefully so the pin just pushes in. There are serrations at the base of the pin that will tighten the fit once the pin is driven home.

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decoynh posted:

Thanks Lew. I have a KLine baggage car that has the “wobbles”. I’ll follow your detailed instructions. 

Matt, when you tap the center-pin out back up the underside so you don't twist the truck frame. I used the age-old trick of a socket of the correct size. It takes a couple tries to get a feel for how hard to tap on that dimple to flatten it. Also, flattening the dimple works the metal around the center-pin hole such that the center-pin is too tight a fit. Ream the hole carefully so the pin just pushes in. There are serrations at the base of the pin that will tighten the fit once the pin is driven home.

Lew, That all makes sense.  Flattening the dimple would make the hole too tight.  

Finally !!!   Got my 2 Tortoise machines throwing both switches at the crossover to the Mine Run completed.   I wanted both machines to switch together with one toggle switch, and I also wanted to add a 2nd  Bi-Polar Red/Green LED alongside the switch on the Main Line.   I have wired them together before at crossovers, but only with one Bi-Polar R/G LED in the control panel....  Anyway due the location of the switch and the location of the small sub-panel facing the back wall,  it was worth the extra effort to wire in a 2nd LED so I could see the switch position without taking a hike.

 

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Hi Mark,  thanks for asking.   There were a couple of reasons I laminated 2 sheets of 1/2 inch plywood together.  

This is the curve that is 180 degrees,  probably  8'-6" diameter at the center line between the 2 main lines and it's on a 1.5% grade.  So I really wanted the most stable, flat sub road bed I could construct.   Whenever I join two sections of roadbed together in a butt joint I end up putting all kinds of reinforcement under the joint.    I have used lap joints with more success....

My goal here was to create a long continuous downhill/uphill grade, I didn't want any issues with uneven joints,  undulations, and I also wanted it to maintain it's level across the width.    This is where the 2 layer idea came from,  I figured out I could cut repeated sections  42 to 48 inches in length and overlap the joints top and bottom, so the entire 9 foot diameter is essentially one piece, glued, clamped and screwed together.  It worked pretty darn well with very little flexing and was easier to elevate and get the grade right on the money without flexing....  I have always wanted to run pretty long trains  25 to 30 car freight trains, and I figured this curve going up a grade had better as near perfect as I could make it if that was going to work without derailments.   

When I was installing it,  I made supports for both ends and the mid-point as it was easy to figure out the math for 1.5% grade, then I was able to make sure I was on track for that gradient to get me down to the lower level  around the last 90 degree turn across the lift gate.   With only 3 support points, it was fairly straight forward to keep tweaking it as the grade continues above and below this 180 degree roadbed. 

 I ended up adding some oak joists under the roadbed once everything checked out, from top to bottom.  

The other reason.....   I can't really pick up carry large 4 x 8 sheets of 3/4 inch plywood with the rebuilt shoulder... but I can just about manage 1/2 inch 

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Chris, Your reasoning is along the lines I was thinking it might be.  I will have a similar situation on the opposite end of my new layout from the end I started working on.  I just used a flat sheet of plywood for the big loop because there is no grade and I want to build a town in the middle and will build up the hillside over the rear of the loop with foam for the hillside town.  The other side will have a grade the whole way around the loop and will be more rural scenic with a drop off for the Blackwater River.  I will definitely keep your method in mind.  I really like it.

Yes lifting plywood was a problem for me even before my knee and slipped disks/sciatic nerve problems.  of the last year and a half.  I fell on the ice at least 10 years ago and did some rotator cuff damage that I was told was inoperable.  I went through a lot of physical therapy for that, and it is pretty good, but heavy lifting puts a strain on it.  Ah well, we learn to adapt!!  Thank you very much for the detailed explanation and photographs that I saw before, but didn't fully understand what I was looking at.

I created a RR unit sign on Photoshop, using the Insignia I just created. I used a background photo of boards painted in white, then ran ghost lines through the lettering and the Insignia where the board lines would be.
I think it worked pretty well, and could possibly fool the eye of anybody actually looking at it.
One thing's for sure, it doesn't look like your normal model railroad sign where someone just printed it out on white paper. I made the frame out of scale lumber, just needs another hit of dullcote and waiting for the glue to dry before that.

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What'd I do? Well.....the Postman dropped off a box from trainz. In the box was a retired Conrail (nee Reading) extended vision Hack:

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For me four things have to change before this crummy will be at home on the PER. That brakeman sitting in the cupola must go because we are a present-day [ish] operation and that means a two man crew. PER uses a Hack for it's everyday shove-move from town to interchange as a safe way for the Conductor to ride the rear-end during the trip. He/she stands/sits looking out the right rear-facing window with radio at hand giving the engineer instructions. So no one in the cupola. Also those ladders have to go. For safety all cabooses had their ladders and roof-walks removed late in their careers and again, PER is a present-day operation.

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That light has to go as there never would be light in a cupola.

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First the four screws retaining the body to the frame are removed. The tricky thing is that the platforms must then be removed by sliding them endways. Then the interior can be [gently] removed from the body.

 

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The three lights and the brakeman exposed.

Here we are almost done. The brakeman has had his butt unglued and the center (cupola) light has been removed. For comparison, the left light bulb has been changed out for the lower wattage bulb used in MTH track switch remote controls while the right-hand bulb is stock. Easy way to fix atomic lights, use a dimmer bulb.

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I'll take a nigh-time pic later. Not sure what I'll do about the roof-walks as removing them would require sanding off the bosses they are retained by.

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Matt, The Genset is really cool!  I think the reason I like them is that they remind me of a first generation diesel.    A first generation diesel with state of the art controls!  That's a handsome passenger train it is pulling as well.

Lew, Just like a little kid.  Get something in the mail and have to immediately tear it apart.    You made some fast and easy improvements for your more modern era!  Looking good!!  Is that anther PS2 car in front of it???? 

Mark Boyce posted:

Matt, The Genset is really cool!  I think the reason I like them is that they remind me of a first generation diesel.    A first generation diesel with state of the art controls!  That's a handsome passenger train it is pulling as well.

Lew, Just like a little kid.  Get something in the mail and have to immediately tear it apart.    You made some fast and easy improvements for your more modern era!  Looking good!!  Is that anther PS2 car in front of it???? 

Mark, the car in front is indeed a PS2....in Chessie Western Maryland livery. 

chris a posted:

Hi Mark,  thanks for asking.   There were a couple of reasons I laminated 2 sheets of 1/2 inch plywood together.  

This is the curve that is 180 degrees,  probably  8'-6" diameter at the center line between the 2 main lines and it's on a 1.5% grade.  So I really wanted the most stable, flat sub road bed I could construct.   Whenever I join two sections of roadbed together in a butt joint I end up putting all kinds of reinforcement under the joint.    I have used lap joints with more success....

My goal here was to create a long continuous downhill/uphill grade, I didn't want any issues with uneven joints,  undulations, and I also wanted it to maintain it's level across the width.    This is where the 2 layer idea came from,  I figured out I could cut repeated sections  42 to 48 inches in length and overlap the joints top and bottom, so the entire 9 foot diameter is essentially one piece, glued, clamped and screwed together.  It worked pretty darn well with very little flexing and was easier to elevate and get the grade right on the money without flexing....  I have always wanted to run pretty long trains  25 to 30 car freight trains, and I figured this curve going up a grade had better as near perfect as I could make it if that was going to work without derailments.   

When I was installing it,  I made supports for both ends and the mid-point as it was easy to figure out the math for 1.5% grade, then I was able to make sure I was on track for that gradient to get me down to the lower level  around the last 90 degree turn across the lift gate.   With only 3 support points, it was fairly straight forward to keep tweaking it as the grade continues above and below this 180 degree roadbed. 

 I ended up adding some oak joists under the roadbed once everything checked out, from top to bottom.  

The other reason.....   I can't really pick up carry large 4 x 8 sheets of 3/4 inch plywood with the rebuilt shoulder... but I can just about manage 1/2 inch 

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Chris, your roadbed and layout is going to be as stable and solid as a rock the way you are building it. I agree that it is very wise for a layout to have such a good foundation as yours will have. Arnold

 

geysergazer posted:
Mark Boyce posted:

Matt, The Genset is really cool!  I think the reason I like them is that they remind me of a first generation diesel.    A first generation diesel with state of the art controls!  That's a handsome passenger train it is pulling as well.

Lew, Just like a little kid.  Get something in the mail and have to immediately tear it apart.    You made some fast and easy improvements for your more modern era!  Looking good!!  Is that anther PS2 car in front of it???? 

Mark, the car in front is indeed a PS2....in Chessie Western Maryland livery. 

Chessie Western Maryland is an excellent choice!!

Arnold,   thanks.   I really have liked the L girder joist bench work method.  As I use a lot of exterior grade mahogany at work, I realized about 2 years ago, that I should substitute a 1 x 4 mahogany decking board for the girder...  The cost was barely more than 1 x 4 clear pine, I find it here for $1.28 per foot, so a 10 foot girder only cost me $13.00 and it's much stronger and more stable than pine, particularly if I pick the boards with straight grain....   I am not big on having a bunch of legs as I spend alot of time down there rolling around on my home made dolly for wiring etc.   I am also not big on having lumber twist, warp and move and screw up my track work.... totally not worth saving a couple of dollars.    

Ray,   the bay window set is outstanding !!!  

Lew great job on the Conrail Caboose,  thanks for sharing the details about pulling it apart and changing to different wattage lamps,  great ideas.     

I just took a break from working on my second Santa Fe 21" passenger car, the Vista Dome Coach #500 from the 1927040 2-pack,  Work is moving very slowly.  I finished painting all of the seats with three coats of paint, and added people I painted to the Dome and the lower Lounge area,  I installed a pop machine and boy drinking a pop, from Woodland Scenics "Bicycle Buddies" figures. The boy is a little larger scale, but he and the pop machine fill a dead spot in the Lounge area.

I continue to attempt to pair the figures in conversation groups to add interest and tell a story of the people interacting with one another on the train.

I have the lower coach area to finish.  It will be sparsely populated because many passengers have chosen the Great Dome or Vista Dome as a place to sit.

My back and shoulders are telling me it is time for a break.  Have a good evening.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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Fourth night.  Same problem fixed? again?  Switch #3 has been the focus of much effort.  Last night, I replaced everything except a 6 inch extension added to give more slack in the control wires.  The extension was fabbed by a well meaning but tired old man.  Today, with a new and improved extension, the original switch has worked throughout the day.  Now, with that positive feedback, I modified the upper platform, installed the deck, and laid all remaining track.  I tested everything, now a switch covered by the second level is acting sluggish.  Two steps forward and one step back.  I want to run some trains.

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Tomorrow I will replace the original rubber insulated control wires to switch #11.  I will not surrender.

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Now that my train room is empty and vacuumed, I couldn't wait any longer!!! I picked 1 box at random, and HAD to open it !!
That's a Happy Train Engineer holding his #58 Great Northern snowplow for the 1st time in 38 years! I'm happy again! I couldn't stop at just one, had to do the whole box.

Others are 25000 Lehigh  Valley, 8141 Steam & Tender, 2343 Santa Fe & dummy, 58 snowplow, x6014 Baby Ruth, 6464 Sunoco tanker, 3482 Milk car, 6462 NYC Coal, 347000 Penn Coal, & 9303 lumber car.

I keep telling myself, I can't unpack any more until I get 1st Table built! Hope I can hold out that long LOL!

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Murphy's Law got me.  After gluing people on the Santa Fe Dome Chairs, I found that they were all too high in the seats.  I had to pry them off the seats with an Exacto knife and grind 1/8 inch more from the bottoms of the seated  figures. I had to stop grinding at the point where any more grinding would cause the legs to fall off.

The Santa Fe Dome Coach roof is very low, similar to the Wabash Vista Domes.  The UP Domes have much more clearance.  I will grind 1/8 inch off the top of the walls on the lower level to allow the Dome Floor to drop downward and give even more clearance in the Upper Vista Dome.  I had to do this with all of my Wabash Vista Domes.  I worked all night to correct the error and am ready for bed at 5:00 A.M.

Tomorrow/today I will add a few more Preiser 65602 Seated People to the lower coach area of the Santa Fe Vista Dome #500, part of the 1927040 2-pack.

Have a good day.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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Murphy's Law got me.  After gluing people on the Santa Fe Dome Chairs, I found that they were all too high in the seats.  I had to pry them off the seats with an Exacto knife and grind 1/8 inch more from the bottoms of the seated  figures. I had to stop grinding at the point where any more grinding would cause the legs to fall off.

The Santa Fe Dome Coach roof is very low, similar to the Wabash Vista Domes.  The UP Domes have much more clearance.  I will grind 1/8 inch off the top of the walls on the lower level to allow the Dome Floor to drop downward and give even more clearance in the Upper Vista Dome.  I had to do this with all of my Wabash Vista Domes.  I worked all night to correct the error and am ready for bed at 5:00 A.M.

Tomorrow/today I will add a few more Preiser 65602 Seated People to the lower coach area of the Santa Fe Vista Dome #500, part of the 1927040 2-pack.

Have a good day.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

John I've been down that road with drivers some times no legs and one arm for steering, at least they can park wherever they want

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sidehack posted:
John Rowlen posted:

Murphy's Law got me.  After gluing people on the Santa Fe Dome Chairs, I found that they were all too high in the seats.  I had to pry them off the seats with an Exacto knife and grind 1/8 inch more from the bottoms of the seated  figures. I had to stop grinding at the point where any more grinding would cause the legs to fall off.

The Santa Fe Dome Coach roof is very low, similar to the Wabash Vista Domes.  The UP Domes have much more clearance.  I will grind 1/8 inch off the top of the walls on the lower level to allow the Dome Floor to drop downward and give even more clearance in the Upper Vista Dome.  I had to do this with all of my Wabash Vista Domes.  I worked all night to correct the error and am ready for bed at 5:00 A.M.

Tomorrow/today I will add a few more Preiser 65602 Seated People to the lower coach area of the Santa Fe Vista Dome #500, part of the 1927040 2-pack.

Have a good day.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

John I've been down that road with drivers some times no legs and one arm for steering, at least they can park wherever they want

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Bill and John, I feel for you both!!!  You work hard on something and find you have to go back and do it again or do something more you didn't think of.

John, Your passengers are the most realistically posed I have ever seen.  It seems everyone is alive and excited to be on the train.  No sleeping commuters on your trains!!

ToyFreak, 38 years!!  What a long wait!  Yes I agree you will have a mess on your hands and no place to build the train table.

I can relate.  Two nights ago, we heard a crashing sound, and I coundn't find what caused it.  I didn't even notice it all day yesterday, but my wife found it by accident.  I bought some custom painted backdrops from a Forum member probably 4 years ago.  Some may recall I started building a layout in an 11x11 room in the basement our older daughter vacated when she got married in 2016.  Then in 2017, my wife suggested I expand into the family room because with both daughters married, the room wasn't being used except for storage.  Well, back to the crash.  I have had cut pieces of the backdrop to size for one wall and had them sitting on the benchwork frame an inch below the table top.  Well they fell over after 2 years in that position.   I didn't think of taking a photograph then, but here it is now to show what a train room can get to look like.  I told my wife that is the trouble I get for buying too much stuff when I was still working, and haven't gotten to it yet.

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Lionelski posted:

Those are some great figures John. Too bad they will be somewhat hard to see inside the passenger cars.

Ray and John, I've cut up a lot of people to fit into automobiles on the layout. Why is it that most of the 1960's vehicles offered are convertibles requiring this? What do you guys do with the removed legs, I have a bunch of them

build a wall that doesn't go all the way down to the ground and set up the legs behind it, will look like you have a lot of people back there. I think I've seen someone do this before.

sidehack posted:
Lionelski posted:

Those are some great figures John. Too bad they will be somewhat hard to see inside the passenger cars.

Ray and John, I've cut up a lot of people to fit into automobiles on the layout. Why is it that most of the 1960's vehicles offered are convertibles requiring this? What do you guys do with the removed legs, I have a bunch of them

build a wall that doesn't go all the way down to the ground and set up the legs behind it, will look like you have a lot of people back there. I think I've seen someone do this before.

This afternoon I will be standing in a long line waiting to pay my property tax. And I will spend my time wondering "Was Ray joking?"

I finished the detailing of the second Lionel Santa Fe 21" passenger car of 9, the Vista Dome #500 that comes in the 1927040 2-pack.  I lowered the people in the Dome Seats last night and began trimming 3/8 of an inch off the lower walls under the Dome Floor.  This will allow me to lower the Vista Dome Floor more for a better appearance in the Dome.

There are pictures of the grinding process and some of the finished lower Coach area.  After the glue and paint fully dry, I will assemble the car and pull it in front of the Great Dome for a test run.  The people in the Dome may be able to be lowered more after I get two longer screws to keep the Dome Floor positioned under the Dome.

I will need a shower to remove the grinding debris from my hair and clothes.  When I laid down last night I kept discovering little bits of plastic poking me through the night.

Have a good day.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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John Rowlen posted:

 

There are pictures of the grinding process and some of the finished lower Coach area.  After the glue and paint fully dry, I will assemble the car and pull it in front of the Great Dome for a test run.  The people in the Dome may be able to be lowered more after I get two longer screws to keep the Dome Floor positioned under the Dome.

 

John, the posing and painting of the folks, especially in the dome, is extraordinary.

I highlighted a portion of your text and request that you describe the use of screws to secure the dome "floor"-- better still would be a photo of the shell with dome floor installed.

Thanks, again, for the photos and descriptions--they are a treat.

I finished this Colorado Midland boxcar kit, after problem of finding three rail coupler archbars for it.  Now have box, gon, and hopper ready to photo, if l can't find other CM cars squirreled away. There is another boxcar kit in NG&SLG, but it is $140!!, seriously, so....will have to scratchbuild a caboose.  And see if any CM engines can be bashed from something.

Hi guys

we are back on the Waxhaw division for a while. The MTH USRA mikado which failed in service on the Waxhaw disjoin has returned after major shopping which includes an upgrade to Proto Sound 3, A postwar celebration series Southern ABA set has been assigned to the division and should go into revenue service shortly. Finally , a LionChief plus B&M RS3 and a Bachman Canadian National 44Tonner are visiting the division for some fan trips. We will have some photos shortly. 

Carl,  Here are two photos of the 1927040 2-pack Vista Dome Floor underside screwed onto the two posts designed to hold the Dome Floor with seats in place.  The space as designed has very little height for seated figures.  I back the screws almost out to lower the Dome Floor.  The screws in my Wabash were a little longer.  The two screws help align the Dome Floor forward and back to keep it from moving down the car.  The screws have a molded washer head.

By grinding some of the lower level wall under the dome floor, I am able to lower the Dome Floor to provide more height for the seated figures in the Dome.  I also have had to grind the bottoms of the figures to the point when any more grinding would distort the figure and cause the legs to fall off. I believe this car is like the Wabash and Amtrak Vista Domes.

I need longer screws to keep the Dome floor from skidding around inside the car on top of the lowered walls.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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The 3rd of 9 Lionel Santa Fe 21" passenger cars is the "Pine Bell" Sleeper, one of two cars in set 1927040.

The interior does not look like my Walthers HO Pine series 10-6 sleeper cars.  The ten seats are so-ooo large that they dwarf the Preiser 65602 1/45 seated figures.  The seats look like they could fit G-gauge people.  I thought the Pine series were 10-6 Sleepers, but the three bedrooms to the left have only one window for two rooms and no dividing wall.  There are no room walls as in the Walthers HO Santa Fe 10-6 sleepers.

I will paint the seats, but probably limit the number of seated people in the car.  The car is my least favorite Lionel 21" passenger configuration.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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John, thank your for the photos and text--I now understand the problem and your solutions.

My frame of reference for the dome floor attachment was L's aluminum extrusion which did not use screws to secure the dome floor to the shell; and, I didn't consider L had come up with a different approach; i.e., screws.

Thanks, again.

Today my buddy Kevin came over and updated my Ver 4.3 TIU to 6.1. I successfully commissioned the WIU that my wife gave me for Christmas. My TIU is a Rev 13a and I bought the USB/Serial adaptor cable and splitter off of eBay. I will admit to being a little nervous about this working together. I was anticipating having to buy a Rev L TIU.

Both of the granddaughters trains have run on G-Pa's iPad this afternoon. Life is good. While my DCS remote still works and I have a spare, this really takes a lot of pressure off. 

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I tested twelve feet of new Menard's 30" track over the last few days. Ties are of a thinner metal than my Menards curves from a few years ago. You cannot step on these at all or tie's sides bend, lowering rail height overall to about 0-27 height..... convenient for me because I'm mixing 0&0-27 here, but far from the sturdy ties of my (older) Menard's curves. I'd say the new ties sheet metal gauge is about equal to those of lionel 0-27 ties.

...which all led to breaking out the box of extra track and forgoing any and all housecleaning since the year 2020 rolled in.

The Crumbville, Halloway, and Hermanstir Fork RR averages about a minute for a round trip. Unique; each reverse loop's hot power drop contains a single diode which randomly plays bell (or whistle on #2). The long connecting line between reverse loop & turnouts doesn't have a diode on it's drop. When close to the diode-drops you get a bell/whistle offset, and once about 15" away the sound shuts off again as the voltage offset weakens closer to the hallway drop without a diode at all. 

Sound system is Lionel Railsounds Berk. Engine is a RI dockside cab fwd with a flip phone, upsidedown and open at a 90° witha rubber band around it and the roof. I forgot to raise the resolution too, darn.

  "Brakezilla" sounds masks the cuff sounds dying....I didn't have brake squeel or chuff in my sound library;and well, you know the rule..... "no dead air" 😁

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Today the Postman dropped off a box and I unpacked it. This beauty was inside:

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After changing out the couplers to the hidden-tab type (I have standardized on them because the remote-uncouplers&car-stoppers are spaced accordingly) the new car went into the interchange yard (fiddle yard).

This pic is for Mark:

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"built by Pullman Standard Butler, Pa" 

I like the level of detailing on these MTH PS-2CD cars, nice paintwork&lettering but not too delicate for old arthritic hands to handle without [too much] damage. 

This car fits into my developing scheme of having a car on the PER for each road I have ridden. Still need Reading, Western Pacific, Mopac and Amtrak. Some small lines like the Apache railroad (White Mountains of Aridzona), the East Broad Top, the Penn View Mountain Railroad (Blairsville, Pa) and the Oil Creek & Titusville prolly not gonna' happen.

That looks like it says “Putler” not Butler.....😜

What'd I do? A recent equipment roster change meant I had to re-lay a carlength of rail that had been ripped up post-abandonment of the old Main Stem:

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This because the Dinner Train now has three cars!

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After the acquisition of the old business car and the subsequent refurbishment of wobbly-truck-syndrome there are now three cars available and Dinner patrons are happy because now you can usually get a table reservation with a day-or-three notice.

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PER management and the Dinner Train concessionaire are happy too because revenue is up what with ten more tops (tables) and profit$ are up as well because with planning kitchen staff is able to handle the load so the increased expenses are more wait-staff and of course the car-cost. 

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Guitarmike posted:
geysergazer posted:

Today the Postman dropped off a box and I unpacked it. This beauty was inside:

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After changing out the couplers to the hidden-tab type (I have standardized on them because the remote-uncouplers&car-stoppers are spaced accordingly) the new car went into the interchange yard (fiddle yard).

This pic is for Mark:

      

"built by Pullman Standard Butler, Pa" 

I like the level of detailing on these MTH PS-2CD cars, nice paintwork&lettering but not too delicate for old arthritic hands to handle without [too much] damage. 

This car fits into my developing scheme of having a car on the PER for each road I have ridden. Still need Reading, Western Pacific, Mopac and Amtrak. Some small lines like the Apache railroad (White Mountains of Aridzona), the East Broad Top, the Penn View Mountain Railroad (Blairsville, Pa) and the Oil Creek & Titusville prolly not gonna' happen.

That looks like it says “Putler” not Butler.....😜

Ha! You are so right:

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It's a typogorical.  Oooooes! I wonder if that makes this car a rare collectible like those PW Lionel "production mistakes"?  Mebbe worth $$....A VL BB in my future?? 

 

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The Lionel Santa Fe "Pine Bell" 10-6 Sleeper is finished, the 3rd of 9 cars.  I decided to add the normal number of people to this car even though the seats are very large and dwarf the passengers.  It would be odd to have seated people in all the cars except this one.

I took two pictures showing the painting of the seats. The middle Stateroom has one coat of paint and shows streaks caused by the oil used in the molding process. The left room has two coats, and the right has three in order to fully cover the seats.

I had to place the seated people on the edge of the seats in order for them to be seen through the windows.  If I push them back into the seats, they are not very visible.

I will assemble the car when the glue and Dullcote dry.  The next car will be the Santa Fe Dining Car in the 2-car set #1927020.

Have a good evening.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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Guitarmike posted:
geysergazer posted:

Today the Postman dropped off a box and I unpacked it. This beauty was inside:

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After changing out the couplers to the hidden-tab type (I have standardized on them because the remote-uncouplers&car-stoppers are spaced accordingly) the new car went into the interchange yard (fiddle yard).

This pic is for Mark:

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"built by Pullman Standard Butler, Pa" 

I like the level of detailing on these MTH PS-2CD cars, nice paintwork&lettering but not too delicate for old arthritic hands to handle without [too much] damage. 

This car fits into my developing scheme of having a car on the PER for each road I have ridden. Still need Reading, Western Pacific, Mopac and Amtrak. Some small lines like the Apache railroad (White Mountains of Aridzona), the East Broad Top, the Penn View Mountain Railroad (Blairsville, Pa) and the Oil Creek & Titusville prolly not gonna' happen.

That looks like it says “Putler” not Butler.....😜

By golly, I'm looking at it on the computer now and not the old smartphone screen and it does say Putler!!!     Send it back!!  Just kidding, it is bigger than lifesize on the screen and I had to really focus hard to see it was a P.  My eye doctor wouldn't be surprised!    It's all right by me, Lew!!

geysergazer posted:
Guitarmike posted:
geysergazer posted:

Today the Postman dropped off a box and I unpacked it. This beauty was inside:

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After changing out the couplers to the hidden-tab type (I have standardized on them because the remote-uncouplers&car-stoppers are spaced accordingly) the new car went into the interchange yard (fiddle yard).

This pic is for Mark:

      

"built by Pullman Standard Butler, Pa" 

I like the level of detailing on these MTH PS-2CD cars, nice paintwork&lettering but not too delicate for old arthritic hands to handle without [too much] damage. 

This car fits into my developing scheme of having a car on the PER for each road I have ridden. Still need Reading, Western Pacific, Mopac and Amtrak. Some small lines like the Apache railroad (White Mountains of Aridzona), the East Broad Top, the Penn View Mountain Railroad (Blairsville, Pa) and the Oil Creek & Titusville prolly not gonna' happen.

That looks like it says “Putler” not Butler.....😜

Ha! You are so right:

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It's a typogorical.  Oooooes! I wonder if that makes this car a rare collectible like those PW Lionel "production mistakes"?  Mebbe worth $$....A VL BB in my future?? 

 

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In view of the "Thomas the Tank Engine" layout shown by Vincent I thought I would share one of my more recent "junk" finds...a SMURF Train, complete with Smurf blue engine and tender and track!!  Battery operated, approximately O gauge or perhaps a little smaller, works, and was complete with box as shown.  Its  most certainly not high value but who among us can resist a full up operating train set in the box for 5$ !! 

 

Finally, in my "Grandson's" layout is my new Marx Union Pacific F-3 A / B pulling an all Marx freight.  Note it is passing a Marx "Frontier" litho tin log cabin in use as a station.  Like most all Marx, train was picked up for a modest price at a train show, put on track, immediately goes to work pulling trains!

Well, that's all from Waco folks

Don

 

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I started the 4th of 9 Lionel Santa Fe 21" passenger cars, the Dining Car #1489, part of 2-pack 1927020. The car arrived today from Gryzbowski Trains.

The Dining Car does not have sound, so the kitchen area is open and provides me with an opportunity to build a kitchen from Plastruct sheets.

I stated painting the table bases Testor's Flat Earth Red and the table cloth a Flat White.  (The tables have 1,2,3, and 4 coats of white paint starting at the far right and moving left.)  The tables will take five coats of flat white paint.  I cut the mold debris off the table edges to clean the interior appearance. 

I noticed that Lionel is now using a black steel 3/16" E-clip to hold the trucks on the 21" passenger cars.  It is an improvement.

This is where I end today. Until tomorrow.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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Lionelski posted:
Don McErlean posted:

 ..."about the same size as a telephone booth".  One day, in briefing some HS students, he realized from their blank stares that they had no idea what a "telephone booth" was!! ……….

 

Question, Don, where the heck does Superman go these days to change?

Which brings up another question; where did he put his Clark Kent suit when he did?

Rumor has it he stuck it up under the phone booth shelf and all the old chewing gum held it in place ...

I made some progress on the Santa Fe 21" Dining Car #1489 from the 1927020 2-pack.

The interior is painted and ready for me to place people in the car.  I added Plastruct seat backs to the cubes molded into the floor and touched up the seats.  It is nice to see a completed dining room with real chairs for the passengers.  It is better than a crate on the floor.

The kitchen area will get stainless steel counters, Refrigerator, stoves, ovens and grill with grill hood and sinks.  My Santa Fe Diner in HO has a counter mid-kitchen, blocking the cooking area from the plating and dish washing area. I am not sure how much Plastruct building I will do.  As long as it goes well, I will keep building.

Tonight I will place seated people in the Dining Car.  It is an enjoyable task, taking one person at a time.  I always leave a table or two open for more diners who just arrive.

Have a good night.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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John, the seat backs make ALL the difference; as you said, a chair instead of a crate to sit on.

Is there a Plastruct product number for the seat backs or do you fabricate them?  How do you attach them?  What adhesive do you use?  If you answered these questions previously, I apologize for not recalling the answers.

Looking forward to what you do with the kitchen.

Thanks, as always, for your photos and explanations.

I'm no carpenter, woodworker, never really modeled before but we needed to come up with some piers to support our bridge over the bay...took me nearly 2 hours to do this one (3 more to go) and it's not without it's flaws but I think with some paint to make it look like concrete this just might work (I'm open to ideas, criticism, etc. though...still need the boss [little man] to give final approval to live forward).20200111_18454120200111_18470520200111_184736

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Hi guys- Took the Polar Express and Yuengling excursion train for one last spin before we took all the Christmas decorations down...... sniff Couldn't pass up a 55 deg day to take the outside lights down too. 

I hope to get some stuff done tomorrow. Need to power up the new siding and start leveling out the upper track to make the spur for the excursion trains.

Everyone's doing great stuff. John- the detail you put into your passenger coaches in top notch.

Bob

 

Just finished the project of die cast girder bridge for double main line. Bought pair of NYC girder bridges from auction site at very cheap price. Removed one side girder from each bridge into one wide bridge. Used middle metal plate from old Lionel girder bridge to fill the gap in middle. Sanded lightly to remove the prints, installed plastic plate on one side of girder for C&NW logo. Painted all. After paint dried, applied C&NW logo on the plastic plate. Used aluminum duct tapes under the bridge to hold together, painted it, installed under tracks. All done!EE614478-3107-4E8F-B15D-637C4BE1DC20CDE6B346-7EE4-4476-881D-6EE22FCEDE60D2A27A57-3FC0-4C78-9677-5978583B09EE7C5B3B30-6E76-4F99-A53F-90D69C72BF2B500D9BD3-ED6A-4869-8274-121E77B7A0B6EEF46578-8CCF-4BB3-8CCC-E2DE5B0E0CC4A4C65940-E311-40E6-8B6F-B9B17CC2B793045F9BB0-74B2-47E7-B731-89AB1C7ADBCB259C06FF-2195-4FC9-8869-5C7D3563C6BB495A7A31-1F99-4EB7-BC05-061D5F420D125C7D2A1D-2E5D-4376-909B-C6CA741ED38A

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CGWforever posted:

Just finished the project of die cast girder bridge for double main line. Bought pair of NYC girder bridges from auction site at very cheap price. Removed one side girder from each bridge into one wide bridge. Used middle metal plate from old Lionel girder bridge to fill the gap in middle. Sanded lightly to remove the prints, installed plastic plate on one side of girder for C&NW logo. Painted all. After paint dried, applied C&NW logo on the plastic plate. Used aluminum duct tapes under the bridge to hold together, painted it, installed under tracks. All done!EE614478-3107-4E8F-B15D-637C4BE1DC20CDE6B346-7EE4-4476-881D-6EE22FCEDE60D2A27A57-3FC0-4C78-9677-5978583B09EE7C5B3B30-6E76-4F99-A53F-90D69C72BF2B500D9BD3-ED6A-4869-8274-121E77B7A0B6EEF46578-8CCF-4BB3-8CCC-E2DE5B0E0CC4A4C65940-E311-40E6-8B6F-B9B17CC2B793045F9BB0-74B2-47E7-B731-89AB1C7ADBCB259C06FF-2195-4FC9-8869-5C7D3563C6BB495A7A31-1F99-4EB7-BC05-061D5F420D125C7D2A1D-2E5D-4376-909B-C6CA741ED38A

Neat project that came out great GCWforever. It really updated the PW style bridge

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Don McErlean posted:

In view of the "Thomas the Tank Engine" layout shown by Vincent I thought I would share one of my more recent "junk" finds...a SMURF Train, complete with Smurf blue engine and tender and track!!  Battery operated, approximately O gauge or perhaps a little smaller, works, and was complete with box as shown.  Its  most certainly not high value but who among us can resist a full up operating train set in the box for 5$ !! 

 

Finally, in my "Grandson's" layout is my new Marx Union Pacific F-3 A / B pulling an all Marx freight.  Note it is passing a Marx "Frontier" litho tin log cabin in use as a station.  Like most all Marx, train was picked up for a modest price at a train show, put on track, immediately goes to work pulling trains!

Well, that's all from Waco folks

Don

 

Don,

All I can say is wow! I remember as a child going to our local mall. That was back in the day when all malls had at least one toy store. I saw this train and wanted it, why, because it was a train. As I was being taken home that day I thought about it the entire time. When I got home I started to cry. Walter my "fill in" grandpa asked what was wrong and I told him. He told me that tomorrow he would pick me up and guess what I came home with the next day? You guessed it Papa Smurf and the gang!

Thanks for posting,

Dave

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John, I love what you're doing with the Santa Fe...Santa brought us some people this year and I'm bringing home finish samples from work to try and dress our Santa Fe and Tri Rail cars up...hope ours come out half as good as yours!

John Rowlen posted:

I made some progress on the Santa Fe 21" Dining Car #1489 from the 1927020 2-pack.

The interior is painted and ready for me to place people in the car.  I added Plastruct seat backs to the cubes molded into the floor and touched up the seats.  It is nice to see a completed dining room with real chairs for the passengers.  It is better than a crate on the floor.

The kitchen area will get stainless steel counters, Refrigerator, stoves, ovens and grill with grill hood and sinks.  My Santa Fe Diner in HO has a counter mid-kitchen, blocking the cooking area from the plating and dish washing area. I am not sure how much Plastruct building I will do.  As long as it goes well, I will keep building.

Tonight I will place seated people in the Dining Car.  It is an enjoyable task, taking one person at a time.  I always leave a table or two open for more diners who just arrive.

Have a good night.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

John, I love what you're doing with the Santa Fe...Santa brought us some people this year and I'm bringing home finish samples from work to try and dress up our Santa Fe and Tri Rail cars...hope ours come out half as good as yours!

Dave:  What a great story, its always more fun when we can connect the toys we find to the joy that they must have brought to real young people.  If you still had yours, we could run a "double header" impress "Smurfette" for sure!

John/Lionelski/GeoPeg:  You bring up tough questions concerning Superman.  Where did he put Clark Kent's suit in the Phone booth?  The chewing gum under the shelf seemed just to "icky" to be the answer.  Besides the suit, where did he put Kent's Fedora Hat?? You know that in those days no gentlemen would be caught outside without a hat on...I have pictures of me, 5-6 years old, in about 1949-50 dressed for church and I have on my little hat!  I still have a Fedora, I wear it in the winter sometimes as I am mostly bald but really just to mystify my students...they look at me like I am from outer space...and they and their ball caps all worn with the brim anywhere but in front. 

My layout work today was to finally tackle a job I had been putting off for a considerable period.  I gathered up all my stacked copies of "Toy Trains", "Train Collector Quarterlies", "Lion Roars", "Toy Train Bulletins" , as well as my stack of catalogs from as far back as 2009 and organized them in a filing system.  I got these big magazine "envelopes" they call them but they are really just a magazine sized 3 sided box to hold them in chronological order.  Got rid of duplicates and sorted all out.  I really didn't get too much more room in the layout space but it certainly looks like there is more room and it enhanced the look of the train display and layout.  Now...where are those Tylenol for my back! 

Don

Don Mcerlean, I’m glad you mentioned cleaning your inventory of all the train books, it can get out of hand in a Big way, it ties up room space, and what you did is amazing. If possible, post a picture of the book holders. I did this 2 years ago and have all of a 23 plus years if Model Railroader, CTT, OGR, Railroad Model Crafftsman, Trains Magazine, Special Issues Of Classic Trains, Classic Trains, TCA, LCCA, and all the Kalmbach books on how to do this and how to do that, it becomes a Monster..... Yes sir, you worked on your Railroad today. What’d I do, lots of wiring, hooking up lights and accessories and it’s really Exercise. My layout is 23 years old, I’m 75 now, and it’s a good thing I go to the gym, or I couldn’t do this fun job. Thanks for sharing your and please post a picture. I’ve cleaned up my train room and now folks can enjoy videos, refreshments and train running time. Happy Railroading 1A4BA12D-3851-4765-8C76-08ECDC3054F0C9A2E565-D4EC-4120-9282-57A553E7C8DD0E922BF8-C019-4746-A28F-6C9A84905A6181692F21-645E-42D4-B9A2-1E9629D3420F

 

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Vincent Massi posted:
Lionelski posted:

Question, Don, where the heck does Superman go these days to change?

Which brings up another question; where did he put his Clark Kent suit when he did?

He super-compresses his Clark Kent clothes and puts them into a pouch in his cape.

This was explained many years ago in one of his comic books.

LEAPINLARRY:  Wow, like your room.  Mine is more restricted as I share it with my Daughter in Law who is a fitness fanatic and keeps some of her exercise gear in there, maybe I will try some ... Ha!.  Anyway here are some pictures.

Space is long and thin, periodicals and books are at the end.  I named ,RR the "Lexington Park and Savannah" after some places we lived but more so that I could nickname it, the "long and skinny".

Other side of the room.  I just bought some train shelves from "Glenn Display Systems" and those are going to go on the wall with the picture to give me more shelf room and allow me to get more trains out of their containers so maybe I will be able to run them sometimes.

Here you can see the magazine "envelopes" and how they organized the periodicals. 

Here is what one of the "envelopes" looks like.  Its about 10" on the bottom but only about 4" wide

Maybe a better view showing how they hold the periodicals and in my case train catalogs as well.

Here is the product label from the envelopes.  I got them on line via Amazon.  They are shipped "flat" but are no trouble to pop open.  They came in a 12 pack at a cost of around 1$ apiece.  I priced them at "Best Buy" and they wanted nearly 5$ each for them. Delivery took about 3 days.  

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Don, thanks for the pictures, I will take some of mine tomorrow and post them. I like your layout, your organizational skills to. If ever in Tennessee please come see me. We really have a great time in our hobby. I have been selling on the OGR Forum some of the train items I can’t use on my layout and there’s still lots to go. Then my train room will be a lot better. This hobby can be very addictive.... Thanks for sharing your ideas. Everyone on the forum has great trains and nice layouts, or nice collections. Amazing. Here’s rolling Thunder...Happy Railroading 2E2EDE12-F8FC-4C73-BF7A-89F5A511A2D9BA06C40A-39C3-46DE-BD4B-FCF800FEFEC3

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Carl,  The seat back Plastruct is #90759 .060 1/4" (.250") White styrene plastic. There are ten strips in a pack.   I cut the height a little less than the large sofa seating in the center of the Santa Fe Dining Car.  I pre-paint the seat back strips with two coats of paint, and then cut them and touch them up after I glue them to the back of the seat cubes with Krazy Glue.  I let the glue dry overnight before closing the car up. 

Krazy Glue fumes can fog clear plastic if not ventilated until dry.

I placed seated people in the center sofa/booth seating area of the Sanra Fe Dining Car tonight. I took a break to watch football with Mom until Halftime., then went to work on the passenger car.  The people took extensive cutting and grinding.  The end dining seats will be easier and hopefully finished tomorrow.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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Morning everyone! Its been awhile since I have been here! I have been keeping up to date on my smart phone, but not on my computer. All I can say is WOW everyone is doing such great work!

John, the work your doing on your passenger cars is just amazing! Your detail really brings your cars to life and not just some steel rolling around the layout!

Brian, Great photos of your layout! I wish I lived closer so I could come and see it in person!

Larry, the same goes for you, I just love your train room and your layout is wonderful. One I would truly like to see in person one day if I ever get down that way!

Johan, your scenes are perfect as always! Great work!

I know there is a lot more to comment on but I am just overwhelmed getting up to speed on what everyone is doing. 

I haven't been in the train room for awhile as I am still working on the house. I hope to get out there today as I want to finish the fixed pilot project on my dummy engine so I can move on to something else. But first I have to clean up the mess made while putting in the mini split heater/AC unit.

I hope everyone has a great Sunday and if your football team is still in the chase they do well, unless they are going against the Seahawks! LOL

 

         was having some engine problems last night...                                        

          caught it on video...

 

         

                had to bring in some backup...

 

 

 

              have a great day everyone !

 

 

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briansilvermustang posted:

 

         was having some engine problems last night...                                        

          caught it on video. Had to bring in some backup.

      have a great day everyone !

 

 

Brian, great choice on backup! Guess you couldn't find a BNSF engine to save the day!

Today, I didn’t get to run trains or work on the layout, but I’m getting ready to wire up some MTH Passenger stations that make the folks disappear like there boarding the train. Anyone have advice on these accessories? 

Mike G, thanks for your kind comments, come in over to Tennessee, it would be nice to have you and your family visit, this is a great part of the country, middle Tennessee. Be sure and keep us posted on your layout progress, it’s a great layout.

Briansilvermustang, Wow, you have the Diesels, Steamers, and Simply a great Collection. Congratulations on a job well done. I love those Santa Fe diesels!

Vincent Massi, I like your unique trains, are they LEGO? They are very colorful and fun to see. Give a little more information. Thank you.

Strap Hanger, I like the idea of making pallets, cool looking. 

B&O Fan, I like your construction project and the pictures of your layout, keep them coming. I like the buildings in the corner scene, very nice.

P51, Lee, I like your pictures very much, a really nice layout and great scenic detail. Simply awesome. Thank you.

John Rowlen, I like the way you work on your new train cars. Amazing. I do not do any repainting or taking apart, my dealer installs my passengers, I admire your work and you must have a lot of patience. Great work.

Keep the great pictures coming, have a great week everyone. 6F7358E9-F87E-47C5-9820-D33255B17070

 

 

 

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Thank you for your comments and questions as I continue to detail the nine Lionel Santa Fe 21" passenger cars #1927010, 1927020, 1827030 and 1927040.

I just finished gluing the last Preiser 65602 Seated Passenger in the Dining Car. There are 26 adults and 3 babies. I am glad that I had 20 boxes of 36 figures painted already.  It made filling the cars easier.  Most of the figures were painted last January and February, 2019 and stored in their packaging.

I still plan to detail the kitchen area of the dining car, but will move forward with the 5th car, the Santa Fe Coach from the 1927020 2-pack.  It makes sense to keep painting the seats and placing figures in all the cars, before I come back and build the kitchen.  Delaying the kitchen build gives me time to buy some thinner Plastruct sheets and think about the final design.

I posted some pictures of the dining area.  I can't tell if my eyes are overly tired or the pictures are blurry.  Maybe both.  One day I will read the big instruction book that came with the camera.

Have a good week.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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John, wonderful progress photos once again.  Very well-planned to have a large inventory of painted figures on hand when your passenger cars arrive.

Also, what is the head count on painted figures you have done for your various passenger cars?  I lost track, but it is a stunning total by any standard.

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Vincent Massi, I like your unique trains, are they LEGO? They are very colorful and fun to see. Give a little more information. Thank you.

 

 

 

Larry, the one train I assembled today is an L gauge Lego train. The other two I have running are HO. I have considered starting a thread on L gauge trains, which I THINK Lego has abandoned.

L gauge is 17% wider than O gauge, yet its curves are so tight that an L gauge oval is only slightly larger than an HO oval. You lose realism in exchange for flexibility (If you don't like any of the railcars, use your Legos to assemble them differently). Tracks are FAR cheaper than regular tracks because they have no electricity. The locos are run by 6 AAA rechargeable batteries and are radio-controlled.

Lego made three powered sets (One has a powered tender that pushes the steam locomotive) and a Hong Kong knock-off company made a very nice unpowered steam loco that I assembled.

My small house has a 6' by 8' train table, so I have to use HO and N scale rather than O. However, the tighter curves of L gauge track make the larger trains possible.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Interesting for me to see painted figures in passenger cars, which I have never done. However, I am on the lookout for nice, economical painted figures that are sitting.

This is why:

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As you can see, I have a long way to go in order to fill the bleachers in my 2 baseball stadiums. LOL, Arnold

Well, Arnold, if you lower your ticket prices, “they will come”  

Vincent Massi posted:
leapinlarry posted:

Vincent Massi, I like your unique trains, are they LEGO? They are very colorful and fun to see. Give a little more information. Thank you.

 

 

 

Larry, the one train I assembled today is an L gauge Lego train. The other two I have running are HO. I have considered starting a thread on L gauge trains, which I THINK Lego has abandoned.

L gauge is 17% wider than O gauge, yet its curves are so tight that an L gauge oval is only slightly larger than an HO oval. You lose realism in exchange for flexibility (If you don't like any of the railcars, use your Legos to assemble them differently). Tracks are FAR cheaper than regular tracks because they have no electricity. The locos are run by 6 AAA rechargeable batteries and are radio-controlled.

Lego made three powered sets (One has a powered tender that pushes the steam locomotive) and a Hong Kong knock-off company made a very nice unpowered steam loco that I assembled.

My small house has a 6' by 8' train table, so I have to use HO and N scale rather than O. However, the tighter curves of L gauge track make the larger trains possible.

Larry, thank you for asking.  I thought one train looks like LEGO.  

Vincent, so you said L scale is discontinued.  What scale are LEGO trains they sell now?

Larry, your more then welcome, its easy to make nice comments on your layout as it is one of the nicest ones I have seen! I can tell you put a lot of time into it! I am working on getting fixed pilots on my dummy ES44 right now so I can move on to something else. I am not sure what is next, but will keep you posted!

John wonderful job on the passenger cars! The pictures were nice and clear, maybe you need to take more breaks! LOL

Strap Hanger & Sidehack, great job on the pallets!

Arnold, great looking ball parks! Maybe if you offered free hat night or something like that you would get more people!

Vincent, nice job with the lego's! I don't thing I could do that as sometimes I have a shot temper! LOL

I hope everyone has a great day and enjoys time with there layout!

Before putting my Polar Express set away for another year I had to fix two issues with the observation car.

1- the lights kept flickering so I had two options, buy GRJ's passenger car cap kits, or go low tech and clean and tighten the wipers on the axles. Went with option 2 for now.
2- glue the &%$### observation deck on the back of the car so it doesn't keep falling off

Then I removed a trespasser from the layout

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I know what you mean about that observation deck, Bob!  It would fall loose but not completely down just running around the track on my old conventional set.  I sold it when I bought the LC set two years ago, and wondered if they would have done something different, but no it was the same.  All I can think of is they want it separate for shipping so it doesn't break off.  

I recall having a similar trespasser on my layout when I was a teenager.  My sister's cat would jump up until I moved the layout to a higher table in the basement.  My wife is a dog person, not a cat person, so we have not had any Catzillas since!

Three day report here.

In the past 56 hours, I removed the second level again.  I had to move a curve further from a wall.  I replaced the control wiring on two more switches.  I put a momentary switch for track power to two new spurs.  I modified the North end and wired two lighted buildings.  I put updated liquid smoke parts in my PW #736 and #671.   Lots of smoke from both.  Today will install my radio tower and a Lionel switch tower.

Gee, seven sentences does not seem like much words to describe what I accomplished.  Maybe I'll just run some 70 year old chain smokers.  I know.  I'll hook a prewar tender to #736 and pull some really old stuff!

Bill

Vincent Massi posted:
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Vincent, so you said L scale is discontinued.  What scale are LEGO trains they sell now?

I'm not sure that it is discontinued, but the Lego store we visited last week did not have any of them. Lego has not posted any plans to make new ones. However, if you go to the Lego online store, you can still buy them.

Okay, now I understand.  I didn't read correctly!! 

Bill, It sounds like you accomplished a lot!  Get something right before you move on in the way to do.  " 70 year old chain smokers"!  I never heard it that way, but you are correct!  Have fun running trains!

Mike,  I took your advice and rested my eyes today. I am taking Mom for a drive through the Cleveland Metroparks to Berea Station to see the NS and CSX tracks and hopefully some trains. Mom has been very patient with my detailing of the passenger cars.  She will sit and watch me work, but not for long. The cure for cabin fever is a nice car ride and a hotdog and hot fudge sundae from Dairy Queen.

Carl,  I honestly have lost track of the number of people I painted. The total was at 3,500 a year ago.  I bought 15 more boxes of 36 Preiser 65602 seated people in 2019 to go with five I already owned, but had not painted.  I also had some boxes from the previous painting sessions.  I stocked up on the Preiser 65602 people because they had been unavailable for a year or so in 2016.

Larry,  I like your passenger cars.  The layout at night looks very good.  I like to watch my passenger trains snake their way around my Valley of Bridges layout in the dark. I may never finish my layout, but at least I have a place to run my trains.

Mark,  I am doing my caregiver duties today with a ride in the park for Mom.  She deserves some fun at age 93. Trains and ice cream, at least the ice cream and a hot dog, make her happy.

Sincerely, John Rowlen

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