Williams Trains WoW!

Hi, Bob.

The Williams F3 is very similar to Lionel's postwar version which means it's a "hodgepodge" of a bunch of details and not correct for any particular phase. Given that the Williams model also duplicates the dimensional innaccuracies of Lionel's unit, the use of the term "scale" is misleading as the former Williams management had a somewhat loose interpretation of "scale."

I hope this helps.

Bob

I have Williams too! As I said on a post in another thread where everyone was groaning & moaning about cost accounting and overseas production and spewing out incorrect economic theories that would make Keynes turn over in his grave (and now that thread is thankfully locked) I'm all about value and Williams seems to me to be the one company that has its head screwed on straight. 

They're providing an extremely fine product...good looking, smooth running and reliable, at an extremely fair price. And it's an even better value if you get it from an on-line discounter (thank you Trainworld). I already know that my next purchase will be a WBB steam engine of some sort.

One thing though...their motors are so quiet, I'm actually missing the sound of the engine...either the actual buzzing of the electric motor like on my old PW Lionel, or a synthesized sound from a circuit board & speaker. So I would like to ask, are there any instructions someplace that could help someone who is an electronics nincompoop like me how to add a sound card to a WBB engine so I can get more than just a whistle and bell?

Hey Bob, thanks for the info   It doesn't look like Atlas will ever come out with a Seaboard version (and it may be out of my price range) so I'll give these some thought.

Ray, the cheapest way to go is installing a MRC AC Sounder card, that will give you diesel, bell, and horn sounds.  You'll need the handheld remote to set the sounds up like you want them, but I think both can be bought new for $50.

From there you're talking of close to $200 for something like the ERR Railsounds Commander, if you want cruise then add the ERR Cruise Commander (more $$$).

I presently have just the Cruise Commander (no sound, I took my MRC AC Sounder out) in my E7, but it glides along the rails.

I gave up on command engines too, my first williams was a GP9. had problems with right out of the box, but found the help it needed on this forum. I then bought the scale GG1 and 6 car passenger set, what a good looking and running train. I then found a F7 AA set at a good blowout price, and just ordered the southern E7 AA set with matching 6 car passenger cars at blowout price. was so happy that I placed another order for a D&H engine and another 6 car passenger set at blowout prices. I might buy one more passenger set at these prices, I can't stop.....

I just read the review on the Williams GP30 in this months OGR...god i want one, but I am still an unemployed Government contractor...

Anyway, I loved your Editorial Allen regarding your Thomas Kinkaide print of Lionelville station.

Excellent Editorial!

OK Pete - let me be your conscience - STOP STOP STOP! (I did the same thing - bought 3 of the Williams f7s)

I bought both of these for $220 at York...two different road numbers. I added a Evan Design LED, and crew figures. Voila...a handsome stump puller.

Can't see the pic - only the words, "PREMIUM IMAGE"?

Can you see my Trainmasters now?

I have mastered posting pics and movies from my PC. 

I am having no sucess posting pics directly from my Iphone or Ipad, whats the secret? Do I still have to have the pic online offsite...or is there a place here to host the pics???

Very nice! I take photos with my iphone and upload them to "photobucket" a free photo hosting site - then I paste the URL for that pic into the message.

In the conventional electric train arena Williams locos are far superior to Lionel in operation and price. Significantly more pulling power and a lot smoother.

With "Bill T"'s comment above, I wondered about the conventional Lionel (ex-K-Line??)

conventional Shay (druther have a Heisler, but these are available)?  How good are

these as runners?  Are they inferior to the electronic loaded Lionel stuff?  I have the

Wms. 4-6-0, but have not heard of any other Wms. steamers on the horizon..certainly

have read rave reviews of it and don't think I've read of the 4-6-0 being rewired to

slow it down?

Per Bachamnn at TCA talk.....if you want to see what might be in O look at what we do in other scales........not sure what that means...but I like what they do in other scales.

Just read on another thread and thought it might be useful to those following this thread...

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/d...nt/16494189563426381

Bob