E5, 6 Run 2 now up for reservations !!!! Scott has posted pix of all the Run 1 models - except the “demonstrator”. If you’ve missed run 1, you can now step up a have a second chance at these beauties. The paint schemes are the same as run 1. If you want a later paint scheme, you will Need to email Scott in sufficient numbers to have a chance of making that happen.
Cheers !!! 😛
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There are so many excellent options! All the UP, MP, FEC, IC!!!, Burlington, ACL..... Many favorites of mine listed. This will be a tough one!
I'm in for a pair of the CB & Qs. Santiago, Scott needs to pay you commission . . . I'm literally placing an order because of the pics you posted.
So with this second run who would be in for this As Delivered KCS paint scheme?
I am in for this and more going to be expensive.
@TrainBub posted:E5, 6 Run 2 now up for reservations !!!! Scott has posted pix of all the Run 1 models - except the “demonstrator”. If you’ve missed run 1, you can now step up a have a second chance at these beauties. The paint schemes are the same as run 1. If you want a later paint scheme, you will Need to email Scott in sufficient numbers to have a chance of making that happen.
Cheers !!! 😛
The Demonstrator was never a true Demonstrator anyway. It started life as Seaboard unit that got rebuilt into an E6 partway through the 1939 world's fair. I may need to add an E5 B unit. Hard to decide as there are so many other great offerings right now from Sunset.
This is great news !!!
I will pre-order through Chicagoland Hobby for CB&Q E5A & E5B units.
Unless I missed it, 3RD Rail’s website did not list the specific road numbers & SILVER names for the CB&Q E5 models.
From the first run, I already have:
CB&Q E5A Cab #9915A Silver CARRIER Nose Stripes: BLACK
CB&Q E5B Booster #9910B Silver POWER (B units have neither a nose nor stripes )
From the second run, I am hoping to buy:
CB&Q E5A Cab #9911A Silver PILOT Nose Stripes: BLACK (Prototype preserved at Illinois Railway Museum)
CB&Q E5A Cab #9910A Silver SPEED Nose Stripes: RED
CB&Q E5B Booster #9911B Silver MATE (B units have neither a nose nor stripes )
3RD Rail's website indicates that for CB&Q E5B booster units that their is a choice between BLACK stripes & RED stripes. Because the E5B booster units did not have a cab with a nose, the E5B units had neither black nor red stripes. I hope that 3RD Rail clarifies if there is any difference between these two choices for CB&Q E5B booster units.
I also hope that 3RD Rail will specify on their website what road numbers & Silver names will be offered.
Thanks again for starting this post !!!
@GG1 4877 posted:The Demonstrator was never a true Demonstrator anyway. It started life as Seaboard unit that got rebuilt into an E6 partway through the 1939 world's fair. I may need to add an E5 B unit. Hard to decide as there are so many other great offerings right now from Sunset.
I for one would be in for an 1939 A-B Seaboard Worlds Fair "E4" unit!
I will let Santiago answer CB&Q Bill's question above regarding detail differences Black and Red striping. Seems reasonable about the engine# and name plates. We will clarify that more.
Added Demo and KCS E6As.
People that said they skipped on the MP in run 1 because there were no passenger cars can now step up and reserve their E6s. The EAGLE production will move up in the Q as Amtrak is completed and the Daylight is in production. Having a complete consist is getting closer !!! 🙂👍
I'm hoping for Missouri Pacific in Jenks blue. 
@sdmann posted:I will let Santiago answer CB&Q Bill's question above regarding detail differences Black and Red striping. Seems reasonable about the engine# and name plates. We will clarify that more.
Added Demo and KCS E6As.
Especially since the 9911 Silver Pilot is the ONLY surviving E5 and the only locomotive to leave scrapper Pielet Brothers as a locomotive and not as a pile of scrap metal.
Rusty
@MikeH posted:I'm hoping for Missouri Pacific in Jenks blue.
Me too !!!!!!
I’ve already got my MP AB from run 1.
A MP E6 in Jenks paint would be a fantastic add-on for my MP “empire”. No one has done it in “O” before too !!!! Email Scott to give us the option !!!!!
(Sorry not to post a picture but I can only find photos that the website will scrub for copyright issues - can’t find a line drawing. No pix of models as no models. 😖)
Cheers
@Shawn_Chronister posted:So with this second run who would be in for this As Delivered KCS paint scheme?
I am in for this and more going to be expensive.
Wow !!! You got a quick add to the offerings /reservation lists. Good deal for you as wasn’t offered in run 1.
@GG1 4877 posted:The Demonstrator was never a true Demonstrator anyway. It started life as Seaboard unit that got rebuilt into an E6 partway through the 1939 world's fair. I may need to add an E5 B unit. Hard to decide as there are so many other great offerings right now from Sunset.
I called it “demonstrator” just to keep it simple. Didn’t want to “get into the weeds”.
Anyway, Scott’s now added it to the options. 👍
C.B.&Q. E5A and B order placed. Very pleased the red stripe option is being offered.
AAAH WONDERFULL
@MikeH posted:I'm hoping for Missouri Pacific in Jenks blue.
I just sent Scott a note about Jenks Blue E6’s! Let’s make it happen!
@TrainBub posted:Wow !!! You got a quick add to the offerings /reservation lists. Good deal for you as wasn’t offered in run 1.
I ordered it already too plus others man I am going to be hurtin when that bill comes in.
@Shawn_Chronister posted:I ordered it already too plus others man I am going to be hurtin when that bill comes in.
When time gets close I start sending in partial payments. That way it’s not so painful to make a Big Payment All At Once. Anyway, it works well for me.
Cheers !!!
I noticed the Santa Fe and Rock Island are plated but the CB&Q is painted. Wouldn't that CB&Q look even better if it was plated? I wonder why it's not. Was that topic covered when they did the first run?
Happy to see this happening. I'm putting an initial document together for Scott with regard to late era Red Nose E5s. Since the tooling was made for Phase II engines, I assume red noses will be Phase II as well. Thus, I will be recommending Phase II engine names and engine numbers ensuring more prototypically accurate models.
E5 boosters had my differences between red and black nose timeframes. Some included: E5Bs behind Red nose engines didn't have skirts, had nameless plates, had vertical E5 plates and different markings throughout.
Notice that phases apply to E5A units only.
@MikeH posted:I noticed the Santa Fe and Rock Island are plated but the CB&Q is painted. Wouldn't that CB&Q look even better if it was plated? I wonder why it's not. Was that topic covered when they did the first run?
No, E5s were stainless throughout. A complete shroud. No partial stainless parts.
THe SF and RI approach wouldn't look good on E5s. Imagine side plated inserts with non plated skirts/ roof/ nose.
Nonetheless, that approach worked for CB&Q E9s and they sure made them accordingly.
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:No, E5s were stainless throughout. A complete shroud. No partial stainless parts.
THe SF and RI approach wouldn't look good on E5s. Imagine side plated inserts with non plated skirts/ roof/ nose.
I see. So Sunset is keeping it uniform. That makes sense. Thanks.
I think that's best, Mike. Keep in mind that some customers may be looking to match engines from run#1. So, that consistency would be critical for them.
I would like to have the truck skirts on my Run 2 E5 models to match my Run 1 E5 models.
Even though the 3RD Rail tooling is for the Phase II versions of the E5 A, I still want the following Phase I Road numbers & Silver names From Run 2:
E5 A Cab Units
#9911A Silver PILOT Black Stripes
#9910A Silver SPEED Red Stripes
E5 B Booster Units
#9911B Silver MATE (no nose so no stripes if any color)
YAY !!!!!! 👍🙂😛😜😆😊🙃👍 MP in Jenks Blue offered as option !!!!!!!
I’ve now placed my reservation for an AB set. It’ll be great with my MP run 1 AB. Thanks for this option Scott !!!!!!!
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:Happy to see this happening. I'm putting an initial document together for Scott with regard to late era Red Nose E5s. Since the tooling was made for Phase II engines, I assume red noses will be Phase II as well. Thus, I will be recommending Phase II engine names and engine numbers ensuring more prototypically accurate models.
E5 boosters had my differences between red and black nose timeframes. Some included: E5Bs behind Red nose engines didn't have skirts, had nameless plates, had vertical E5 plates and different markings throughout.
Notice that phases apply to E5A units only.
The Burlington removed the E5 names 1952/1953 by simply flipping the nameplates over. Red nose stripes and faux grill painting began in 1959.
Living near the Burlington racetrack in the 1960's, I don't ever recall seeing black nose stripes on the E's.
Rusty
@vash44 posted:There are so many excellent options! All the UP, MP, FEC, IC!!!, Burlington, ACL..... Many favorites of mine listed. This will be a tough one!
Lucky to have a second chance !!!😬😜😛
Something to whet everyone's appetite...
@TrainBub posted:Me too !!!!!!
I’ve already got my MP AB from run 1.
A MP E6 in Jenks paint would be a fantastic add-on for my MP “empire”. No one has done it in “O” before too !!!! Email Scott to give us the option !!!!!(Sorry not to post a picture but I can only find photos that the website will scrub for copyright issues - can’t find a line drawing. No pix of models as no models. 😖)
Cheers
You can always just attach the link!
@GG1 4877 posted:The Demonstrator was never a true Demonstrator anyway. It started life as Seaboard unit that got rebuilt into an E6 partway through the 1939 world's fair. I may need to add an E5 B unit. Hard to decide as there are so many other great offerings right now from Sunset.
I would LOVE to get that Seaboard A-B worlds fair unit!
@BobbyD posted:You can always just attach the link!
Well I’ve “mastered” adding photos into my posts (not so much being a Luddite - just need some guidance on how to do the link). Please show how to attach a link. That would be very much appreciated !!!
Thanks
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:Something to whet everyone's appetite...
Nice photos Always Appreciated.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:I would LOVE to get that Seaboard A-B worlds fair unit!
Have to wait until Scott decides to do the E3/E4. They have different toof details. Phase I E5s shared roof details with E4/E3s while phase II E5s share roof details with E6s.
@TrainBub posted:Well I’ve “mastered” adding photos into my posts (not so much being a Luddite - just need some guidance on how to do the link). Please show how to attach a link. That would be very much appreciated !!!
Thanks
When you have the picture displayed in your browser, tap or right click (depends whether using a tablet or computer) on the url at the top and “copy” the url. Then in the post you want to include the link, in the “add reply” box click on the [ ]-[ ] icon to the right of the italics (slanted I ) icon. In the pop up box that opens, paste the copied url in the top box labeled “Url.” Then in the “Text to Display” box type what you want the underlined link description to be, by default it will be the same as the url. In the first example below, I typed “Link to picture” and clicked on the “OK” button. In the second example, I let the text default to the url.
@GregM posted:When you have the picture displayed in your browser, tap or right click (depends whether using a tablet or computer) on the url at the top and “copy” the url. Then in the post you want to include the link, in the “add reply” box click on the [ ]-[ ] icon to the right of the italics (slanted I ) icon. In the pop up box that opens, paste the copied url in the top box labeled “Url.” Then in the “Text to Display” box type what you want the underlined link description to be, by default it will be the same as the url. In the first example below, I typed “Link to picture” and clicked on the “OK” button. In the second example, I let the text default to the url.
Thank you so much!!!!
I’ll have to print this info out before I lose it ( because of all the threads I follow)
@GG1 4877 posted:Have to wait until Scott decides to do the E3/E4. They have different toof details. Phase I E5s shared roof details with E4/E3s while phase II E5s share roof details with E6s.
I’d like to see the E3/4s but…….
😑😑😑Another Campaign that is pushed out to somewhere in the future 😖😖😖 Can the 5-6 molds be modified for the differences ??? That would be extremely advantageous (less $) as fewer roads bought the 3-4s. This means smaller audience to buy and that translates to lower #s for the run.
hoping for GGD to make cars for the city of SF and LA
Another vote for the city of LA
@TrainBub posted:I’d like to see the E3/4s but…….
😑😑😑Another Campaign that is pushed out to somewhere in the future 😖😖😖 Can the 5-6 molds be modified for the differences ??? That would be extremely advantageous (less $) as fewer roads bought the 3-4s. This means smaller audience to buy and that translates to lower #s for the run.
E3's, E4's and E6's were essentially the same externally. The only thing the E4 had externally the 3's and 6's didn't have externally was the retractable nose door. Of course, the E5 had the stainless steel fluting, letterboard and smaller side windows.
Rusty
Put in a reservation for a 3 rail "Demo"! Hope it gets done!!
Matt
@Rusty Traque posted:E3's, E4's and E6's were essentially the same externally. The only thing the E4 had externally the 3's and 6's didn't have externally was the retractable nose door. Of course, the E5 had the stainless steel fluting, letterboard and smaller side windows.
Rusty
I know about the door on the E4. Jonathan commented earlier in thread about roof details differing. Did I misunderstand ?
Pictures/references just don’t focus on roof details but ……What I can see ….. 1) 3rd Rail E6 pic shows most roof details 2) Key Models pic “Early E” has less details in same area as 1 but numbered as E6 #7002. I wonder if numbering incorrect and is really E3 #7000
3) zoom of E3 #7000 in St. Louis - blurry but looks like details match #2
photos in reverse order. Zoom went in small - don’t know why. I don’t know if this is accurate. These are just my observations. 🤔
Feedback will be interesting. 🙂
Cheers !!!
@20centuryhudson posted:hoping for GGD to make cars for the city of SF and LA
They make great looking trains with those raised areas running the length of the cars.
@TrainBub posted:I know about the door on the E4. Jonathan commented earlier in thread about roof details differing. Did I misunderstand ?
The roof vents on the E3/E4 are different than the E6. The E6 share the style of venting with the E7.
@Rusty Traque posted:Especially since the 9911 Silver Pilot is the ONLY surviving E5 and the only locomotive to leave scrapper Pielet Brothers as a locomotive and not as a pile of scrap metal.
Rusty
I don't even model the CB&Q but if 9911A was offered I'd probably order it, especially with the black nose stripes.
@GG1 4877 posted:The roof vents on the E3/E4 are different than the E6. The E6 share the style of venting with the E7.
Did my pix above correctly spot this ?
Do we know if CBQ 5 red version will include later details, brow grabs, nose grabs?
@Alco244 posted:Do we know if CBQ 5 red version will include later details, brow grabs, nose grabs?
Yes, as per prototype (CB&Q late maintenance grab irons).
@SANTIAGOP23 & Scott Mann @sdmann
The 3rd Rail website still does not provide many details about the CB&Q E5 A & B units.
I already have E5A #9915A Silver CARRIER in Black stripes and E5B 9910B Silver POWER from 3rd Rail’s 1st run of the E5 models.
From the 2nd Run, I have an E5A with Black stripes, an E5A with Red stripes, and another E5B in order.
I need to know what specific units are offered so that I can personally choose my road numbers & SILVER names.
Ideally, I want an E5A #9910A Silver SPEED to match my Run 1 E5B #9910B Silver POWER. That is how those 2 prototypical units were delivered from EMD to CB&Q.
I also want a set of E5A #9911A Silver PILOT & E5B #9911B Silver MATE
Please provide an update on the CB&Q E5 models.
BLACK STRIPE Versions
What are the available SILVER Names ?
What are the available road numbers ?
Are the truck skirts included with the black versions ?
RED STRIPE Versions
What are the available SILVER Names ?
What are the available road numbers ?
If the trucks skirts are not included with the red version, can the truck skirts be purchased as separate items ?
Any other details that are not mentioned here ?
Thanks in advance !!!
@SANTIAGOP23 & Scott @sdmann
I just rechecked the 3RD Rail website.
The only details are the BLACK & RED nose versions with no clarity on what exactly that means.
I like the photo of the E5A #9910A Silver SPEED. So with Silver Speed in your advertisement, can we customers justifiably rely on that road number & silver name being offered ?
Please update us with the E5 details for both BLACK & RED versions.
Thanks in advance !!!
@TrainBub posted:When time gets close I start sending in partial payments. That way it’s not so painful to make a Big Payment All At Once. Anyway, it works well for me.
Cheers !!!
For me, I set up an on-line savings account and do a "sweep in" prior to the next paycheck. This way by the time the item arrives, I have full payment in hand! No cc debt for this stuff anymore!
Right now I have enough for the slumber and working my way towards the p42's and the superliner 1's and finally [if not cancelled] the second run of the Broadway Ltd!
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:For me, i set up an on-line savings account and do a sweep in prior to the mext paycheck. This way by the time the item arrives, I have full payment in hand! No cc debt for this stuff anymore!
Right now i have enough for the slumber and working my way towards the p42's and the superliner 1's and finally [if not cancelled] the second run of the Broadway Ltd!
What a “problem”!!!! So many great offerings !!!!! 😜😜😜
@SANTIAGOP23, @sdmann, @GG1 4877, @Rusty Traque, @TrainBub, @vash44, @BlueFeather, @Rob Leese, @rdunniii, @CBQer
Scott Mann, Santiago, Jonathon, & 3RD Rail Team:
Please see attached table of road numbers & Silver NAMES for CB&Q E5A & E5B diesel locomotives.
As you can see, there are only 4 prototypical Silver NAMES for Phase II E5A locomotives:
Silver ARROW #9914-A CB&Q
Silver SWIFT #9914-B CB&Q
Silver CARRIER #9915-A CB&Q
Silver CLIPPER #9915-B CB&Q
All of these Silver NAMES (with associated road numbers) were previously used in 3RD Rail's Run 1 of your E5A models.
Although there are a few prototypical differences between the Phase I & Phase II E5A units, they are nearly identical for all practical purposes. Most O-gauge modelers won't be able to tell the difference. Those who can tell the difference will gladly overlook the differences.
Prototype E5A Silver Pilot #9911-A is a Phase I E5A and is the only E5 still in existence. All of the E5B & Phase II E5As were scrapped.
O-gauge CB&Q fans will LOVE 3RD Rail for producing the Silver Pilot even with the Phase II tooling.
So please produce the following in your Run 2 E5A:
Silver PILOT #9911-A CB&Q
Silver SPEED #9910-A CB&Q
These will be fresh offerings in 3-rail O-gauge, never before available. A FIRST for 3RD Rail. You will all be HEROS to O-gauge Zephyr fans !!!
Also, the inclusion of one of your Run 1 E5A models with the Silver SPEED name & #9910-A road number implies that 3RD Rail is offering this as an option. Your website & Ads have no disclaimers to the contrary.
The other Phase I E5A names are:
Silver BULLET #9909 CB&Q
Silver METEOR #9912-A CB&Q
Silver WINGS #9913 CB&Q
Silver RACER #9950-A C&S
Silver CHIEF #9980-A FW&D
Thanks in advance !!!
@SANTIAGOP23, @sdmann, @GG1 4877, @Rusty Traque, @TrainBub, @vash44, @BlueFeather, @Rob Leese, @rdunniii, @CBQer
Here are my photos of the number board & name boards from E5A Silver PILOT #9911-A at Illinois Railway Museum on 09/18/2016.
Please see my separate post & thread for more photos of Silver PILOT & the Nebraska Zephyr titled:
"CB&Q E5A #9911A Silver PILOT 09/18/2022"
Thanks in advance !!!
I have my E5AB set ordered already. If I could get every wish fulfilled the units would come as FW&D 9980A Silver Chief and 9980B Silver Warrior (inspiring names, eh?) and they would additionally wear the small zephyr lettering TEXAS ZEPHYR like the prototype. But I ain't complaining if they do not.
Hi @Rob Leese
I agree with you that FW&D’s names Silver CHIEF & Silver WARRIOR are wonderful E5 names which evoke imagery of “Everywhere West”.
Although TZ decals in O scale are not commercially available, Microscale does have an HO set of CB&Q E5 decals with all of the names & numbers and the Texas Zephyr lettering (set 87-581).
Microscale also makes decal paper for use with laser printers.
So if you are decal inclined, you could make an enlarged copy of the HO decals onto decal paper .
(1/48) / (1/87) = (87/48) = 1.81 Scale Factor
I am an out-of-the-Box guy and have no direct experience with application of decals onto models. I would probably damage my model in the process & end up with a Frankenstein’s E5 !!! Silver MONSTER !!!
SCOTT IM IN FOR SILVER PILOT 9911-A
@CBQ_Bill. Yeah, the HO people have it all. I have made enlargements of HO decals. It is easy if the decal paper has a white background. Many decal sets have a blue backing, and I do not have the software to capture text from a picture file. Lately I have bought an inexpensive Zephyr font to make decal sets using MS Publisher. I think I have shared some of these as .pdf files on other threads. In keeping with this 3rd-Rail subject I have not tried to modify the E5 set I already have…there is no way to improve upon them. !!
Hi All,
Santiago and Jonathan will no doubt select a variety of names/numbers for the E5s based on your input. But we can't offer all names for just a few models made. And we can't promise names/numbers because they are made in such low quantities. I have resisted breaking out SKUs for each engine name, as it makes the logistics of repairing/replacing/delivering the exact name/number that multiple customer would want. So I don't see how I can change this issue on this project either. But we take suggestions with the orders and try to make those names / numbers that a few customers requested and we randomly pick name/numbers for the remaining orders. We just can't do this for all orders, it's just not possible.
Hi Scott @sdmann, Jonathon @GG1 4877 , & Santiago @SANTIAGOP23 :
Thank you for the update !
My order is through Chicagoland Hobby.
My requests are:
BLACK Stripes
E5A #9911-A Silver PILOT
E5B #9911-B Silver MATE
RED Stripes
E5A #9910-A Silver SPEED
I also want to purchase an extra set of truck skirts for my red-striped E5A.
Thanks in advance !!!
I like Greg at Chicagoland. I hope he communicates your order details to us as we don't know who the order is for.
just roughly, what would be a projected on the water date for these if all goes reasonably well? Or a range perhaps. thanks Scott
The E5/E6 project is a gap filling rerun. When the factory has a gap in production, we put it in. I can't say when that would happen exactly. I hope this year. I've asked to start it, and they are considering the timing based on their current projects. But when that time comes, I will post that reservations are closing in a few weeks, and that will be that. 
@sdmann posted:The E5/E6 project is a gap filling rerun. When the factory has a gap in production, we put it in. I can't say when that would happen exactly. I hope this year. I've asked to start it, and they are considering the timing based on their current projects. But when that time comes, I will post that reservations are closing in a few weeks, and that will be that.
Thanks for a heads up on this Scott. Do the brass steam offerings have their own “flows” or are they in the same Q as the plastic models ? Just wondering how they “fit”.
Though the Mlk. Rd. EP3 and SD40-2 Might be high in the Q, there are no “reservations closing soon” notices. And somewhere in the mix , the E5,6s.
The EA E1s will be finishing soon. 😜 I’m just curious if my wallet will catch a breather after the the EA E1s. 🤔
I totally understand the budget situation. I don't want anyone to skip an order because it came it too fast or all at once. We offer 3 month layaways on most projects and longer if one has orders from several projects coming together.
Here's what I see for production scheduling in the next 12 months. The delay between finishing and arrival is about 2 months.
VGN Battleship Gondolas are Done, Coming in May/June.
EA/E1 - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw - Hiawatha 2.0 Cars - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw EP3 - Production Finished August. Tooling Done, samples coming in 30 days. We have 85 reservations and we are making 100 units, so reservations will remain open until they are filled.
E5/E6 - I think it will start in May, finished in August / September
1948 20th Century Cars - Starting in May, Finished in August / September
SD40-2 - It will start in September and finish in Dec/Jan. Design almost finished.
C&O Chessie Cars - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
1948 Broadway Ltd - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
Steam engines are not getting enough orders to start. I don't think there's much we can do to change that.
FAs in 2023
P42 Genesis in 2023
RDC Rerun, GP79 and SD 79, Rerun and new announcements coming this year, will be produced 2023.
All other projects are in the planning stages.
That's what I know. I hope the information helps.
Scott Mann
Wow !!!!!! 👍👍👍👏👏👏🙂🙂🙂 Yes Sir !!! 😜 That Helps SO MUCH !!! (And I bet just not me 🤔)
Cheers !!!
@sdmann posted:I totally understand the budget situation. I don't want anyone to skip an order because it came it too fast or all at once. We offer 3 month layaways on most projects and longer if one has orders from several projects coming together.
Here's what I see for production scheduling in the next 12 months. The delay between finishing and arrival is about 2 months.
VGN Battleship Gondolas are Done, Coming in May/June.
EA/E1 - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw - Hiawatha 2.0 Cars - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw EP3 - Production Finished August. Tooling Done, samples coming in 30 days. We have 85 reservations and we are making 100 units, so reservations will remain open until they are filled.
E5/E6 - I think it will start in May, finished in August / September
1948 20th Century Cars - Starting in May, Finished in August / September
SD40-2 - It will start in September and finish in Dec/Jan. Design almost finished.
C&O Chessie Cars - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
1948 Broadway Ltd - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
Steam engines are not getting enough orders to start. I don't think there's much we can do to change that.
FAs in 2023
P42 Genesis in 2023
RDC Rerun, GP79 and SD 79, Rerun and new announcements coming this year, will be produced 2023.
All other projects are in the planning stages.
That's what I know. I hope the information helps.
Scott Mann
Can't wait for the Chessie Cars and battleship gondolas. By any chance, are there any future plans for different rolling stock?
Would someone please confirm for me that these 3rd Rail E5/6s will operate on O54 Gargraves curves.
Thanks in advance.
Tom
Eventhough our diesels are designed for 072 and larger 3 rail track, we have a 90 degree turn in Atlas 054, and all our engines go through it just fine. But a turnout, S curve or Switch in 054 might be a problem.
Ref above sdmann post.
Good ... on the O54 for my 90 degree Gargrave track turns on my layout.
My turnouts are all Ross Superline O72, plus paired Ross Superline 11 degree turnouts connecting my two Gargrave oval sets of tracks, and lastly I have a pair of Ross Superline O72/O96 curved switches at one end of my layout. So, now comfortable going ahead with one of the 3rd Rail E5/6s.
Tom
@sdmann posted:I totally understand the budget situation. I don't want anyone to skip an order because it came it too fast or all at once. We offer 3 month layaways on most projects and longer if one has orders from several projects coming together.
Here's what I see for production scheduling in the next 12 months. The delay between finishing and arrival is about 2 months.
VGN Battleship Gondolas are Done, Coming in May/June.
EA/E1 - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw - Hiawatha 2.0 Cars - Production Finished May 15th.
Milw EP3 - Production Finished August. Tooling Done, samples coming in 30 days. We have 85 reservations and we are making 100 units, so reservations will remain open until they are filled.
E5/E6 - I think it will start in May, finished in August / September
1948 20th Century Cars - Starting in May, Finished in August / September
SD40-2 - It will start in September and finish in Dec/Jan. Design almost finished.
C&O Chessie Cars - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
1948 Broadway Ltd - Begin in September Finish in Dec.
Steam engines are not getting enough orders to start. I don't think there's much we can do to change that.
FAs in 2023
P42 Genesis in 2023
RDC Rerun, GP79 and SD 79, Rerun and new announcements coming this year, will be produced 2023.
All other projects are in the planning stages.
That's what I know. I hope the information helps.
Scott Mann
OK But What about the Superliner1 and the rerun of Amfleet I and Viewliners? Inquiring minds want to know!
Re: 054 curves and just something to think about. 054 is roughly equivalent to 15" radius in HO. In comparison, 18" radius curves in HO (which are pretty much the standard minimum) are roughly equivalent to 65" diameter curves in O.
054 is a 54" diameter circle. 27" radius. Very small radius for scale engines.
Fantasy names? Skirts on red stripes E5s? 
In the meantime, I’m here wondering why C&Ss 9955, former 9914-A SILVER ARROW never got a complete set of Q maintenance nose grabs... the other side of “passion”, I guess.
Photo credits Steve Goen
@SANTIAGOP23 posted:Fantasy names? Skirts on red stripes E5s?
In the meantime, I’m here wondering why C&Ss 9955, former 9914-A SILVER ARROW never got a complete set of Q maintenance nose grabs... the other side of “passion”, I guess.
Photo credits Steve Goen
I think if one looks long and hard, you’ll find exceptions to any “rule”.
Factory signed the Purchase Order for the E5s and E6s. They will be next in production after the EA/E1 project is finished in May. We will be closing reservations May 1st. Stand by orders are accepted after that and we will continue to add to the production list until the factory says, 'No More'. So don't delay if you want something from that project.
Again, thank you all for your support and interest in our Fine Scale models.
@sdmann posted:...snip... VGN Battleship Gondolas are Done, Coming in May/June. ...snip...Scott Mann
Just submitted a reservation for the DEMO version in 3-rail.
Has there been a change in the E1 A/B? Web site now shows August 2022?
Whoops.. just got the News letter from 3rd rail .. August it is 🙂
3rd Rail E5/E6 Project Reservations are now Closed. You can still put in a Stand-By reservation. That means if we can increase the production quantity or some customers cancel early we can get you the model you reserved. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I will be sending the motors and electronics needed for the project Monday and that settles the maximum quantity we can produce for this project.
Thank you all for your support and continuing to order from us.
@TrainBub. Might be a good time to edit the title of this thread to something like
“…..Run 2 Reservations closed May 5, 2022, Standby Available.”
@vash44 posted:I added several standbys today for a hope and pray order. I whiffed on the 5/1 cutoff. =/
Good luck. You could slip in……🤔😜
@sdmann posted:3rd Rail E5/E6 Project Reservations are now Closed. You can still put in a Stand-By reservation. That means if we can increase the production quantity or some customers cancel early we can get you the model you reserved. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
I will be sending the motors and electronics needed for the project Monday and that settles the maximum quantity we can produce for this project.
Thank you all for your support and continuing to order from us.
Yeay!! NOW BRING ON THE SDP40F'S and the FP7's!
Question for those who purchased the 1st run Seaboard Citrus E6A -- is there a "named train" name on either side of the engine e.g. Silver Meteor or Orange Blossom Special?
Any chance of another Powhatan Arrow set?
I second that and the congressional—
I can go for the Powhatan Arrow!!!
@BlueFeather posted:Question for those who purchased the 1st run Seaboard Citrus E6A -- is there a "named train" name on either side of the engine e.g. Silver Meteor or Orange Blossom Special?
I believe the Seaboard 1st run production picture is on the the 3rd Rail web page. I see no name on the Citrus scheme model. Should there be ? What is prototypical ? Direct questions / comments / directly to Scott.
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