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I'm embarking on re-building my basement layout which had to be partially torn down after a flood and after a basement redesign to get more space for the kids.  My prior layout used a bunch of postwar transformers set up in phase with a common neutral (if that's the right term) connected to the outer rails.  I also had one modern BW transformer in the mix, the one with the throttle separate from the brick.  The prior layout had TMCC.  This one will also have powermasters to allow use of the CAB-1 for conventional engines.  All non-scale, toy-like layout.  Mid-sized, an L shape table top with a height of 13' x 3' and base of 12' x 4'.

 

With that background, here are my questions:

 

1.  I've read some report that PW transformers don't over the same level of protection as modern transformers to modern electronics.  Is that true?  Is there a way to correct that (I read someone report adding a diode, but have also read others pooh-pooh that idea)?

 

2.  Which terminal goes to the inner rail, A or U?  What are the electrically proper terms for those?  Hot?  Neutral?  Common?  Etc.? 

 

3.  I recall reading that my 175W TW transformer requires connecting the A and U opposite of other transformers (125W LW, 110W RW, 1033).  Is that right? 

 

4.  My modern BW transformer is maxing out at 14V instead of the original 18-20V making it lousy for TMCC. Is this one worth taking time or money to fix?

 

5.  I just bought a Williams set that came with an 80W transformer.  Would this be a better choice than the older PW transformers?

 

Thanks for any advice!


Scott

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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First off, the TW is not really a 175W transformer as far as rail power is concerned.  It's an oddball with dual windings, so the variable section is only rated at about half the output power.  Also, the old PW transformers were rated by input power, not output power, so figure about 75% of the rated power available at the terminals of any PW transformer.

 

The ZW and KW connect the U terminal to the outside rails, the 1033-1034 connect the U terminal to the center rail.  Truthfully, I forget which way the TW connects.  I've never had an LW, so I don't know for sure which way that one connects either.

 

As far as protection, you need a fast acting circuit breaker or fuse in each output connection from and old PW transformer.  I also recommend a TVS protection diode for any track outputs if you use locomotives with any electronics, even conventional.

The TW has two completely separate 90 watt(input) cores, it's like having a 1033 to run just trains and another 1033 just for accessories, without taking away from train performance.  The "A" posts are clearly marked as common, as is the convention with Lionel postwar single-train transformers.  Same with the LW.

 

The RW could be used with "A" or "D" as common, but "U" is definitely for the center rail power - the wiper(throttle), direction, and whistle are all on the "U" circuit.

 

The Williams transformer has better circuitry for whistle and bell activation, and in practice will be about as powerful as a the RW or LW.

Some useful info here:

http://www.jwtrains.com/Tech%20Tip_6.htm

 

Transformer-Common Post-Variable Post

 

1033        A          U

1044        A          U

KW          U          A,B

LW          A          U

RW          U          A,B

SW          U          A,D

TW          A          U

V             U          A,B,C,D

VW          U          A,B,C,D

Z             U          A,B,C,D

ZW          U          A,B,C,D

Last edited by Ace
Originally Posted by Ace:

Some useful info here:

http://www.jwtrains.com/Tech%20Tip_6.htm

 

Transformer-Common Post-Variable Post


RW                      U             A,B

JW is wrong on this one.  The RW can be used with "A" or "D" as common, but "U" is definitely for the center rail power - the wiper(throttle), direction, and whistle are all on the "U" circuit.  If "U" is used for common with other transformers, it will power up OK,  but the direction button and whistle control won't work.

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