MELGAR posted:

New Haven heavyweight observation, RPO and dining cars from Golden Gate Depot are scheduled for delivery in March/April 2019.

I'm sending an email to Scott Mann/Sunset/3rd Rail requesting that he offer the Alco FA-1 diesels in either of their two earlier paint schemes. The original colors when the FA-1s were delivered in 1947 were orange and hunter green with thin silver stripes. A few years later, they were repainted in hunter green with gold stripes. It seems that almost all models of New Haven diesels are painted in the orange/black/white McGuiness scheme that was introduced in 1955. I would like to have more models in the liveries of the 1940s and early 1950s.

MELGAR

I'll second that about the earlier paint schemes. Personally i find the McGuiness scheme the least attractive of all the New Haven paint schemes! (Or, not caring if i offend anyone, plain butt ugly).

biscuitag97 posted:

Sunset 3rd rail just announced FA units arriving later this year. New Haven McGinnis FA-1 is looking like a gem. 

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#ALCOFA 

If no one has told you, Biscuit, you are a bad influence  

MELGAR posted:

New Haven heavyweight observation, RPO and dining cars from Golden Gate Depot are scheduled for delivery in March/April 2019.

I'm sending an email to Scott Mann/Sunset/3rd Rail requesting that he offer the Alco FA-1 diesels in either of their two earlier paint schemes. The original colors when the FA-1s were delivered in 1947 were orange and hunter green with thin silver stripes. A few years later, they were repainted in hunter green with gold stripes. It seems that almost all models of New Haven diesels are painted in the orange/black/white McGuiness scheme that was introduced in 1955. I would like to have more models in the liveries of the 1940s and early 1950s.

MELGAR

And speaking of bad influences, MELGAR... while I like the McGuiness scheme (it IS NOT butt ugly!!!), I have to agree that I’d like the orange/hunter/silver scheme - I think the hunter/gold would look too close to the recent PA offering. 

Scott is killing me. And you guys ain’t helping!!!

Paul - Send Scott an e-mail with your recommendation.

I don't think the New Haven McGuiness scheme is ugly but it has been offered on most New Haven locomotive models, while the earlier schemes, which are more elegant, have been done much less often. My new layout is representative of the 1940s and early 1950s - before the McGuiness scheme arrived.

MELGAR

Apples55 posted:
biscuitag97 posted:

Sunset 3rd rail just announced FA units arriving later this year. New Haven McGinnis FA-1 is looking like a gem. 

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#ALCOFA 

If no one has told you, Biscuit, you are a bad influence  

MELGAR posted:

New Haven heavyweight observation, RPO and dining cars from Golden Gate Depot are scheduled for delivery in March/April 2019.

I'm sending an email to Scott Mann/Sunset/3rd Rail requesting that he offer the Alco FA-1 diesels in either of their two earlier paint schemes. The original colors when the FA-1s were delivered in 1947 were orange and hunter green with thin silver stripes. A few years later, they were repainted in hunter green with gold stripes. It seems that almost all models of New Haven diesels are painted in the orange/black/white McGuiness scheme that was introduced in 1955. I would like to have more models in the liveries of the 1940s and early 1950s.

MELGAR

And speaking of bad influences, MELGAR... while I like the McGuiness scheme (it IS NOT butt ugly!!!), I have to agree that I’d like the orange/hunter/silver scheme - I think the hunter/gold would look too close to the recent PA offering. 

Scott is killing me. And you guys ain’t helping!!!

Paul,

It appears so! Although I'm happy to see any New Haven in O Scale. As stated above, the older orange scheme would be a nice change up from the more commonly modeled McGinnis. They would also look good pulling some NH freight or the osgood bradley lightweights. If anyone gets an update from Scott saying he would be willing to produce New Haven FA's in either of the two older schemes, please post it on this thread. And as always, LONG LIVE THE NEW HAVEN!!   

briansilvermustang posted:

 

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Brian,

I hardly can check off a "like" for the New Haven disaster pictured above.

MELGAR

briansilvermustang posted:

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This is a good one! I'm also interested in the concrete New Haven signal station behind the truck. I'm now building the Trainworx New Haven tower kit and have been looking for whatever photos I can find. This photo was not taken on the main line between New York City and New Haven, as there is no catenary.

MELGAR

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briansilvermustang posted:

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Thanks Brian,

With all the New Haven tower pictures I've looked at, this one appears to be closest to the Trainworx model. Although many New Haven towers had the Spanish tile pagoda roof and were constructed from concrete, they differ in length, width, number of windows and placement of doors on the second floor. Some of them also had three levels instead of the usual two.

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I’m a fan of the McGinnis paint scheme. In fact I bought Lionel’s Conventional Classics when I was still deep into conventional control. Swamped them for Lionel’s Alco PA with TMCC. Had the chance to buy an AA set of Scott’s FL9 at York a few years back from Vince so you know it was a good price but due to finances at the time I passed on them. Regretted it ever since and have been searching for them. Missed a set at Western Depot too. Hopefully I will find a set someday. Look forward to the FA’s. 

By the way, not opposed to the green and gold scheme either. 

Mike

The McGuiness livery is my #1 all time favorite and I also think the Hunter green and gold livery is very attractive. Arnold

Apples55 posted:

Another one from Facebook... the caption read:

NH FL-9s, Alco S series switchers, SW1200, and E-33 (EF-4) motors at Oak Point Yard, South Bronx NY, 11/63

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Now, for those with better eyes than I, on the Facebook post, someone suggested that there was an orange steam engine tender in the upper right. Doesn’t seem like it to me (and I don’t ever remember seeing a NH steamer in orange), but what do you think???

Photo is from the 1960s - long after steam was gone. The orange tender may have been used for water storage or maintenance-of-way. Will try to find a reference.

MELGAR

briansilvermustang posted:

 

         LOL...

I’m beginning to think it’s time for an intervention...  

Apples55 posted:

A great collection from my Facebook feed today... the caption gives the following info:

The date........02/04/1969

The collection.......Train Man Paul's 

The photographer.......Marty Bernard

The location........New Rochelle, NY (present day CP 217)

We have EMUs, including 4400s (Washboards)... FL-9s, Alco FA-1 and RS11s..........

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Love these pics!

Peter

Great videos, Peter. I wish Lionel would make some NH steam. I like the green cars, but those black/orange are striking. Thanks for sharing.

Apples55 posted:

From my Facebook feed today... the caption read:

1967.    Grand Central Terminal.

FDNY at the scene of a fire in GCT where a fire on the New Haven Line, Track 27.   The fire sent smoke billowing through the station and into the Pan Am Building and prompting evacuations.  Even with the smoke pouring out people were demanding to know when their trains were leaving (NYT).    Image NYT

I used Track 27 many times (many years later!!!)

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1967. The New Haven had been in bankruptcy since 1961 and would be merged into Penn Central on January 1, 1969. Deferred maintenance during those years produced events such as pictured.

MELGAR

briansilvermustang posted:

 

The New Haven Railroad's concrete coal tower still stands in Cedar Hill Yard, once the busiest yard in New England and 2.7 miles east of New Haven Union Station. Taken August 29, 2018.

MELGAR

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briansilvermustang posted:

 

The New Haven Railroad's concrete coal tower still stands in Cedar Hill Yard, once the busiest yard in New England and 2.7 miles east of New Haven Union Station. Taken August 29, 2018.

MELGAR

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Great shots Mel! The TW TrainWorx Traingineers also did a custom replica of this Coaling Tower for our New Haven Custom Layout customer... thought you'd enjoy seeing the results and NO, no plans to make this a kit

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Happy Tracks!

TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
www.blog.traindame.com
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC | USA
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TRAINDAME,

If TW Trainworx offers a New Haven coal tower kit, I can assure you of at least one customer - me! Your model is incredible and your company produces absolutely outstanding products.

MELGAR

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MELGAR posted:

TRAINDAME,

If TW Trainworx offers a New Haven coal tower kit, I can assure you of at least one customer - me! Your model is incredible and your company produces absolutely outstanding products.

MELGAR

Thank you sir !

 

briansilvermustang posted:

 

     pretty cool...

OK, Brian... I give up. What is it???    If I didn’t know better, I would say it’s one of Dr. Mitch Frankenstein’s creations!!! And that’s pronounced Fronk-n-steen...

That's Tyco's famous interpretation of the GG1 which was catalogued beginning in 1977 until 1986 or so. It utilized running gear from the company's ALCo C630. Although far from realistic, Tyco certainly appeared to sell enough of them.  A friend of mine bought one.

Bob

CNJ 3676 posted:

For those who like to run their O gauge EP-5 models on freight trains, here's one for you. While of course best known for their passenger duties, the New Haven employed its fleet of EP-5 locomotives in priority TOFC freight service operating between Cedar Hill and The Bronx during the overnight hours. I had the opportunity to correspond with a New Haven engineman who spoke very highly of the performance of the EP-5 class in this role. The railroad also tried FL9 units on these trains but a pair of them could not equal the ability of an EP-5 to maintain the schedule. Pictured below is the 378 at Oak Point Yard in The South Bronx. Photographs of EP-5s in freight service are very rare as these operations generally occurred under the cover of darkness. (Photo: Collection of Mr. Michael Robbins)

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A lot of steam emanating from that electric locomotive!

MELGAR

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TRAINDAME,

If TW Trainworx offers a New Haven coal tower kit, I can assure you of at least one customer - me! Your model is incredible and your company produces absolutely outstanding products.

MELGAR

Melgar, you will have to make that layout expansion to fit that monster.

No problem on the layout expansion! But the coal tower will fill the entire expansion...

MELGAR

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Actually, they were called Grill cars, numbered 5000-5004.  They were converted to coaches in 1952, becoming 8370-8374.

Danr posted:

Actually, they were called Grill cars, numbered 5000-5004.  They were converted to coaches in 1952, becoming 8370-8374.

Dan, you are correct; my error. I knew they weren't called diners. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

Not easy to remember since everyone seemed to have different names for the same things.

I agree they were diners in function but in New haven parlance they were called grill cars, just as in PRR parlance a caboose was called a cabin car.

Here is a link to a New Haven video.  I have seen this video before but this version has been cleaned up.

Very early are pictures of the Osgood-Bradley “American Flyer” cars and, what I believe, is the grill car we talked about.

Love the hump yard part especially the guy shooting oil into the open journal boxes.  Somewhere an environmentalist is having an aneurysm.

You also get to listen to Lowell Thomas narrate.  Enjoy

A great railroad at work

  A 2-10-2 New Haven would be great. I mentioned it to Andy Edleman at the recent Amherst Train Show . He did not say yes or no but I knew it was a distant no. You never know.

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