MELGAR posted:

Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.

Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.

Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander

Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited

Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)

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Thanks so much MELGAR. Just ordered the book. Definitely going to go with a NYC - Boston train... got to find a spot for my small Grand Central and Hellgate Bridge.

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MELGAR:

I have been looking forward to this list.  Is it intended to be comprehensive?

If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.

** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.

Steve,

My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine  but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.

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Serenska posted:

MELGAR:

I have been looking forward to this list.  Is it intended to be comprehensive?

If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.

** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.

Steve,

My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine  but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.

MELGAR

MELGAR:

Thanks for clarifying.

I only know about the Narragansett Special because 1-2 years ago, someone on eBay offered a marketing placard from 1938 for the train.  It was a great art deco piece and would have looked fantastic framed in the train room.  Unfortunately, the seller's buy-it-now asking price was a bit too high for me.  Someone else did purchase it, however.

I wish I had copied the photos of it.  The ad copy on the poster was just fantastic.  It extolled the air conditioning in the coaches and the presence of a bar car on the train in both directions.  There were words to the effect that patronizing the bar car would pump up a bettor's enthusiasm on the ride up and console him for his losses on the way home.

I still kick myself for being such a cheap-o and not buying it.

Steven J. Serenska

A little more research reveals that the train was called the "'Gansett Special" ... which I sort of remembered from the placard I didn't purchase, but I wasn't 100% sure.  Here is more info from the  New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association website:

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Another item from Facebook... 

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Just a couple of old friends saying goodbye. CSX B746-27 sits in Cedar Hill Yard on Friday, September 28, 2018 in the early morning pouring rain with CSX 6226 (GP40-2 ex-B&O 4327). The three FL-9s (2012, 2024, and 2026) that it picked up from Connecticut DOT in New Haven are being sent to their new homes after being purchased at auction. Not only are all of the units EMD built, but the GP40-2 has the telltale yellow plow trim, identifying it as a third rail clearance compliant unit. In the lead position behind the active power is unit 2024 (ex-New Haven 2058), which was purchased by Webb Rail LLC - Babbling Brook and is enroute to the Berkshire Scenic Railway Museum in Lenox, MA.

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The FL-9s had been parked in the Metro-North (formerly New Haven Railroad) Lamberton Street Yard in New Haven. I occasionally walked along Cedar street and could see the FL-9s at the far side of the yard. I think there may be one or two still there. Hope they're being preserved.

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Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

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Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

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Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.

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Apples55 posted:

Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.

Thanks Paul... I’ll have to check those out.

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Another Facebook find... this from the Railroad Museum of New England advertising their Christmas Train.

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As best as I can tell from the museum website, the engine is an FL9, CDOT 2019, formerly NH 2049.

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Some pics from my visit to the Danbury Railway Museum yesterday...

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Wouldn’t want to be the carpenter who had to build all of these!!!

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Here is a link to a topic with other pics from my visit:

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Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...

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Great pics, Brian. Love the Turbotrain in the background of the first pic.

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The New Haven Railroad has always been very important to me in my childhood of the late 50’s and early 60’s.    I’m from central Connecticut and our house was by the Hartford Branch main line.   We had a siding go through our back yard that serviced a factory several miles away with coal.   I still remember the NH switcher pushing several coal cars past our house. They would always sound there horn when they rode by because the engineer knew my brothers and I enjoyed it. 

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briansilvermustang posted:

 

Brian’s posts keep me busy photographing my New Haven model locomotives! It’s OK Brian – keep it up!

Brian’s photo appears to have been taken at New Haven motor storage between 1955 and 1960. An EMD FL-9 (road number illegible) is at the left of photo. Judging from the road number (?72) of the locomotive on the right, it is ALCO FA-1 472 (see my first photo below). My second photo has an ALCO PA-1 at right, but based on the grille details and road number (?72), the locomotive at right in Brian’s photo is not a PA-1.

I’m a little disappointed to see that MTH may not have the nose of the McGuiness FA-1/PA-1 paint schemes entirely correct. Actually, as I look at it now, Brian's photo has the red/orange and white bands reversed from MTH, and that is the reason for the difference. On the original McGuiness scheme, the white (side) band was at the bottom but quickly got dirty in service, so the locomotives were eventually repainted with the white band at the top and the red/orange band at the bottom - as per MTH.

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Atop the backs of benches in the main waiting room of New Haven (Connecticut) Union Station are display cases with model trains of the New Haven Railroad. They were donated in 2002 by Lawrence Scripps Wilkinson, a 1950 graduate of Yale College. The station itself is an edifice worthy of the once great New Haven Railroad.

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Apples55 posted:

Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...

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Could any of you folks that have these books tell me if there are any pictures of the NH business cars. I'm looking for a picture of Business car #3 also know as Meadowlark  from it's SP days. 

I would appreciate it. I have never found a picture of it and wondered if it might be in the books. 

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Atop the backs of benches in the main waiting room of New Haven (Connecticut) Union Station are display cases with model trains of the New Haven Railroad. They were donated in 2002 by Lawrence Scripps Wilkinson, a 1950 graduate of Yale College. The station itself is an edifice worthy of the once great New Haven Railroad.

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Hey, Melgar:

Thanks for the info behind these.  I always enjoy looking at them whenever I'm in Union Station.  It's good to know the story of how they got there.

There are also O Gauge models in Penn Station in Newark, New Jersey.  They're high on the wall just before you walk out of the platform area into the main waiting room (on the West Side of the station).

The only problem with the ones in Newark is that you have to stop in the middle of a heavily trafficked area and look way up to see them.  I always get the feeling that, when I stop like that and expose my neck, someone's going to come up behind me, put me in a choke-hold, and relieve me of my wallet...

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...Only 25% kidding...

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