Apples55 posted:

Another Facebook find... the caption reads:

”NYNH&HRR 3202 R-Class Alco-Schenectady Mountain 2-10-2. Apr 18, 1948. Photo by L.A. Bloomfield. From my collection“. 

Wish Lionel would make some New Haven (large) steamers...

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The picture caption is incorrect. The pictured locomotive is a 2-10-2, which is a Santa Fe type. The Mountain type is a 4-8-2 (starting with road number 3300 on the New Haven). The main rod has been removed from the pictured locomotive - which may be in the scrap line.

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This pair of ex-NH FL-9s (#2014, 2016) are currently in Grapevine Texas. They will be restored to full operating condition and then sadly repainted maroon and gold to be used by the Grapevine tourist line. I went out to get pictures in their current state last weekend.

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The right thing to do would be to leave these FL9s  as they are in the original paint scheme or at least to repaint them in the McGuiness scheme. I can't understand why none of the railroad museums in Connecticut managed to keep these New Haven Railroad artifacts in their home State.

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Passenger-carrying steamboats operated on Long Island Sound between between New York City, Bridgeport, New Haven, New London, Stonington, Providence and Fall River, Massachusetts beginning in 1835 . Some of the steamboat companies were owned by railroads that eventually were absorbed by the New Haven Railroad when it established through service between Boston and New York City in 1892, and the New Haven continued to operate them. Other steamboat operators competed with the New Haven until water-borne passenger service ended in1937.

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Passenger-carrying steamboats operated on Long Island Sound between between New York City, Bridgeport, New Haven, New London, Stonington, Providence and Fall River, Massachusetts beginning in 1835 . Some of the steamboat companies were owned by railroads that eventually were absorbed by the New Haven Railroad when it established through service between Boston and New York City in 1892, and the New Haven continued to operate them. Other steamboat operators competed with the New Haven until water-borne passenger service ended in1937.

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Thanks, as always, for the history, MELGAR. I’ve seen ferries loaded with boxcars, but this was the first time I saw one carrying passenger cars. Must have made for an interesting trip.

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I think what looks unusual is that the trailing-truck wheels are smaller than the pilot truck wheels. According to "New Haven Power 1838-1968" by J.W. Stauffer, the trailing truck wheels were 33-inch diameter and the pilot truck wheels were 35 inches. Stauffer refers to the trailing trucks as "dinky" and "incongruously small."

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Apples55 posted:

Oh the things that show up in Facebook... the caption reads:

”Fashion Show on Board the New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad's Show Train, 1949. Photo by Dan Weiner“. Would have made all those commutes a bit easier...

 

During the 1960s, CCNY had professors in a dedicated car on one morning Hartford-NYC train and one evening NYC-Hartford commuter train.  You could earn college credits in those two hours.  John

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Apples55 posted:

Oh the things that show up in Facebook... the caption reads:

”Fashion Show on Board the New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad's Show Train, 1949. Photo by Dan Weiner“. Would have made all those commutes a bit easier...

 

During the 1960s, CCNY had professors in a dedicated car on one morning Hartford-NYC train and one evening NYC-Hartford commuter train.  You could earn college credits in those two hours.  John

Interesting, Rattler... Adds an entirely new meaning to on line learning!!!

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The photo shows New Haven's 4400 series multiple-unit cars - also referred to as "washboards" because of their fluted stainless-steel sides - manufactured in 1954 by Pullman Standard in Worcester, Massachusetts. Each car was powered by four 100 horsepower DC traction motors and drew 11,000 volt AC power from the New Haven's overhead catenary and rectified it to DC for the motors. The cars also had two third-rail pickup shoes on each truck for operation under trackage-rights on the New York Central Railroad between Woodlawn, New York  and Grand Central Terminal, a distance of 12 miles, where 650-volt DC power was supplied from a third rail.

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The photo shows New Haven's 4400 series multiple-unit cars - also referred to as "washboards" because of their fluted stainless-steel sides - manufactured in 1954 by Pullman Standard in Worcester, Massachusetts. Each car was powered by four 100 horsepower DC traction motors and drew 11,000 volt AC power from the New Haven's overhead catenary and rectified it to DC for the motors. The cars also had two third-rail pickup shoes on each truck for operation under trackage-rights on the New York Central Railroad between Woodlawn, New York  and Grand Central Terminal, a distance of 12 miles, where 650-volt DC power was supplied from a third rail.

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Thanks, as always, MELGAR... did they usually run trains that long??? I don’t remember too may 10 car trains when I was riding Metro North, much less 11.

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New Haven Railroad Rail Diesel Car 42 still survives and will undergo a full restoration at the Berkshire Scenic Railway Museum in Lenox, Massachusetts. The car was built in 1953 at the Budd Company Red Lion Plant in Philadelphia and operated by the New Haven and Penn Central Railroads. It was retired in 1989, stored in Fall River, Massachusetts until its acquisition by BSRM in 2017, and moved to the museum in 2018. The BSRM is worth a visit by "Any New Haven Fan."

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Such a great thread. Figured I’d get it back to the front page. 😃

 

Very nice video, Greg - thanks for sharing. And that is a beautiful layout... is it yours or the NLOE layout???

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Peter

Well, someone just took the hot tub time machine back to New York circa the 1960’s!!! New Haven, Penn Central, and NYC all in one shot. All that’s missing is a Hellgate Bridge!!! Nice video Peter.

P.S. Are those NYC cars the Lionel aluminum 1980’s vintage??? Look good.

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greg773 posted:

Very nice video, Greg - thanks for sharing. And that is a beautiful layout... is it yours or the NLOE layout???

Thanks! It’s the NLOE layout.

Thanks Greg. I was born and raised in Brooklyn, not far from the LIRR cut - I’ve been buying your great club cars for the last few years (who doesn’t love Nathan’s!!!). One of these days, I’ve got to hike out to see your layout.

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Putnam Division posted:

Pete

Well, someone just took the hot tub time machine back to New York circa the 1960’s!!! New Haven, Penn Central, and NYC all in one shot. All that’s missing is a Hellgate Bridge!!! Nice video Peter.

P.S. Are those NYC cars the Lionel aluminum 1980’s vintage??? Look good.

The NYC cars and ABA are from the 1983 MPC offering....the 20th Century Ltd.

The the sleeper and diner were later add-ons....

Peter

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Pete

Well, someone just took the hot tub time machine back to New York circa the 1960’s!!! New Haven, Penn Central, and NYC all in one shot. All that’s missing is a Hellgate Bridge!!! Nice video Peter.

P.S. Are those NYC cars the Lionel aluminum 1980’s vintage??? Look good.

The NYC cars and ABA are from the 1983 MPC offering....the 20th Century Ltd.

The the sleeper and diner were later add-ons....

Peter

Thanks Peter... thought they looked familiar. I always found the smooth sides to be most attractive.

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A great photo from my Facebook feed today... the caption reads:

An A-B-A set of freight diesels at Cedar Hill Engine Terminal, New Haven, Connecticut, June 5, 1949. Built by Alco-GE as part of an order of 30 units. (Lawson Hill)”

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Sorry, but I don't have a New Haven FA A-B-A in the orange color scheme.

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This EP-3 model sits in a display case on my desk.

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I have to agree with you about "new things" with one exception: IMO those ugly paint schemes. I know color is a matter of taste, but I preferred the traditional green/gold.

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A great shot from my Facebook feed today... the caption reads:

Former CDOT FL9M #2026 leads Cape Cod Central Railroad's Coastal Excursion train into West Barnstable (MA) Station.

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New Haven FL-9 2043 passes the grade crossing on my 10’-by-5’ layout.

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Say what you will, but the New Haven Railroad in the McGuiness era was willing to try new things.

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Too willing IMO !!  In the fall of '55, Mr McG decided that since there were no more steam engines, the railroad no longer needed enginehouses.  That was my freshman year in college in Boston living near New York.  Then comes a cold snowy winter.  Last Friday before Christmas, one of the big travel days, verryy cccold.;  Went down to South station with plenty of time to make the 4:00 train to New York.  Got on the 3:00pm train which had been waiting for power.  Arrived in NY over seven hours later on a 4:30 schedule - probably the highest ever passenger-hours lost to power failures.  I don't think the locomotive maintenance people were ready for working outdoors in the winter.   I'm all for new ideas, but first check the facts !!!  

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Another one from my Facebook feed - I really don’t know how I feel about them... definitely different!!!

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”New Haven 140, the Roger Williams.

The Roger Williams was a streamlined, six car, lightweight, DMU passenger train, built by the Budd Company in 1956 for the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad. The train ran between Boston, Massachusetts and Washington, DC. The train was based on Budd's successful RDC DMU cars. The end two cars were equipped with streamlined locomotive style cabs and noses, resembling those on the Fairbanks-Morse P-12-42 Diesel locomotives. The four intermediate cars lacked operating controls and cabs”

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Under the New Haven Railroad, the Roger Williams first ran between Boston and New York City and later to Springfield, Massachusetts but never to Washington, DC. After the demise of the New Haven Railroad in 1969, one of the cars ran in commuter service in the Washington, DC area. Facebook is posting interesting pictures of the NYNH&HRR.

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Apples55 posted:

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They were built for the Virginian then acquired by the Norfolk & Western until being sold to the New Haven and then to Penn Central and ending their careers on Conrail. Williams made a creditable model of these although the body is slightly tall to accommodate the vertical motors.1473217799660

Later Gator,

  Dave

 

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Heading to Gatow with a load of coal.
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In 1963 and in bankruptcy, the New Haven Railroad purchased 12 nearly new electric locomotives, at a cost of only $300,000, from the Norfolk & Western’s Virginian Railway, which had ceased its electric operations. These EF-4s had modern technology, were perfect for the New Haven’s electric infrastructure, and hauled freight between Cedar Hill (New Haven) and Bay Ridge (Brooklyn).

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New Haven FL-9 #2043 running on my 12’-by-8’ layout completed in 2004.

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The caption reads:

FL9 no. 2000 coming through Woodlawn milepost 12 pulling the Mayflower to GCT. Year unknown probably around 1960”.

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Paul,

Nice photo.

So, here is the FL9 and its train going under the Nereid Ave bridge...in the distance is the flyover which carries southbound New Haven trains over and onto the New York Central's trackage, joining the Central's Harlem Division right here.

Here is the flyover:

FL9 and flyover

Tom 

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