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Picked up a second Williams Penn Central scale GG-1 for a very nice price. 

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My plan is to replace the PC logo with the word "Amtrak" and thereby have an Amtrak GG1 like the one below. 

As luck would have it, 4882 kept its number throughout its life so I don't need to change that - just the railroad logo. 

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-RM

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MichaelB posted:

So my new engine came today, and it really is brand new in the box. But it's got a manufacturing defect, which I'm not too upset about.

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I checked the insides of the model and the only thing that is close to that area is the metal antenna. So I believe the person who assembled the model didn't allow the antenna to cool after soldering and thus the heat caused that area to warm up enough to where it got deformed like that.

The engine runs with absolutely no problems, so it's a keeper in my book. I don't really mind that melted spot, in fact I think it adds a bit of character to the model. I could give it a story of a tree fell on it, or something like that.

In any case, I can return the model in 30 days if that part of the engine starts bothering me.

Never ever I would keep an engine that showed up with a problem like yours. Send it back and get one that is perfect. 

Do yourself a favor and send it back for a replacement, you will be glad you did.

Dave

Michael, there is just no way that is a manufacturing defect. A lot of people saw that loco before it went in the box, that model got hot probably because the shell was put down near a soldering iron or something. Don't settle on seconds rate trains you paid first rate money on. You can get good deals on stuff. I have tons of stuff I'm willing to sell but not actively selling. Bunch of MTH premier stuff and a could of Atlas O Union Pacific SDP35s for a good price. There are lots of great trains you wont find anywhere else for sale here on the forum. Everyone Ive boguht from has been great to deal with. One day your tastes may change and your road or era is different or you'll just get bored with that engine and decide to let somebody else enjoy it. Id send it back.

david1 posted:

Never ever I would keep an engine that showed up with a problem like yours. Send it back and get one that is perfect. 

Do yourself a favor and send it back for a replacement, you will be glad you did.

Dave

I got it on Ebay, so I can't sent it back for a replacement. Other than that defect, it runs perfectly. I even tested it with TMCC today and it runs like a completely brand new unit.

Apples55 posted:

Absolutely what Mike said (and Matt and David). My biggest concern would be that there was an underlying heat issue directly beneath the warped shell. Depending on the ad’s claims, eBay should stand behind you.

I actually took the shell off as soon as I saw that, the only thing that was close to the affected area was the antenna. I also checked all the electronics and they are perfectly fine with no obvious signs of being hit by heat.

And again, I tested it in TMCC and conventional mode (mostly). There was nothing out of the ordinary and in TMCC mode the area around the antenna didn't even get warm. The only thing that gets a bit warm is the sides of the shell, where the sound driver board is at.

I have until September 29th to ask for a refund, if something does go wrong. So I will run it as much as possible to make sure that it really has no problems.

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MichaelB posted:

So my new engine came today, and it really is brand new in the box. But it's got a manufacturing defect, which I'm not too upset about.

IMG_20180831_140249[1]

I checked the insides of the model and the only thing that is close to that area is the metal antenna. So I believe the person who assembled the model didn't allow the antenna to cool after soldering and thus the heat caused that area to warm up enough to where it got deformed like that.

The engine runs with absolutely no problems, so it's a keeper in my book. I don't really mind that melted spot, in fact I think it adds a bit of character to the model. I could give it a story of a tree fell on it, or something like that.

In any case, I can return the model in 30 days if that part of the engine starts bothering me.

That doesn't look like a "new" factory defect. And no solder joint on a train will stay hot long enough to do that. It looks like a solder iron's pattern to me too.  Turn it over and lets see the wheels/rollers.

Send this back; file a grievance if you have to. Accepting crap like that makes things hard on everyone imo. The chances of that seller not knowing is slim imo. Maybe selttle for a lowball chassis price to keep it if offered, but get a GREAT deal or pass, don't  reward bad business.

 

Adriatic posted:
MichaelB posted:

So my new engine came today, and it really is brand new in the box. But it's got a manufacturing defect, which I'm not too upset about.

IMG_20180831_140249[1]

I checked the insides of the model and the only thing that is close to that area is the metal antenna. So I believe the person who assembled the model didn't allow the antenna to cool after soldering and thus the heat caused that area to warm up enough to where it got deformed like that.

The engine runs with absolutely no problems, so it's a keeper in my book. I don't really mind that melted spot, in fact I think it adds a bit of character to the model. I could give it a story of a tree fell on it, or something like that.

In any case, I can return the model in 30 days if that part of the engine starts bothering me.

That doesn't look like a "new" factory defect. And no solder joint on a train will stay hot long enough to do that. It looks like a solder iron's pattern to me too.  Turn it over and lets see the wheels/rollers.

Send this back; file a grievance if you have to. Accepting crap like that makes things hard on everyone imo. The chances of that seller not knowing is slim imo. Maybe selttle for a lowball chassis price to keep it if offered, but get a GREAT deal or pass, don't  reward bad business.

 

I agree with the others Michael. Contact the seller and ask for a refund due to this issue. The longer you keep it and don't say anything the more likely the seller will claim you did something to it. I'm curious if the post had any pictures of the loco out of the box? If not then the seller knew full well that this was not a "factory new" engine. You've got a solid case with Ebay if the seller doesn't cooperate. AND- you've got proof because you posted pictures here. Sounds like you were really looking forward to getting this loco. Don't regret keeping it just because you wanted it for a long time.

Bob

MichaelB posted:

So my new engine came today, and it really is brand new in the box. But it's got a manufacturing defect, which I'm not too upset about.

IMG_20180831_140249[1]

I checked the insides of the model and the only thing that is close to that area is the metal antenna. So I believe the person who assembled the model didn't allow the antenna to cool after soldering and thus the heat caused that area to warm up enough to where it got deformed like that.

The engine runs with absolutely no problems, so it's a keeper in my book. I don't really mind that melted spot, in fact I think it adds a bit of character to the model. I could give it a story of a tree fell on it, or something like that.

In any case, I can return the model in 30 days if that part of the engine starts bothering me.

I can only hope you're kidding about not sending it back!

I feel like I am "progressing" into my childhood playing army.  In the past 10 or so days, Mr. Muffin (if you are not buying from him you should be) has sent me the MTH premier spirit of the UP engine along with two ambulance on flat cars and a 4 pack of tanks on flat cars.  I also picked up a couple Atlas cars that are just gorgeous.  

 

Happy labor day!!!

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