DD35 arrived, First Pics (OK Real pics posted this time)

Nice.

I have a Lionel UP AC6000 that looks exactly the same but it has a different sticker.

Donald

Now that you mention it my Legacy Big Boy looks real similar

The real joke is in the August manufacture/boxing date on the sticker.

Seriously, opening the box may lead to a severe bout of non-satisfaction but I dare you to do it and post photos.

Built 8/24/11 must have taken a slow boat from china!

Gunny

I used to collect brown boxes with stickers, too. You know, there may only
be bricks - the clay kind - in there.

Haven't run it yet, I had to glue the Engineer back in. No I didn't void the Warranty (Lionel Authorized repair here).

Chris will post more pics I sent shortly.

Jim

I have been inspecting the picture compared to the prototype. It looks like they nailed the color of the box and label. Also, the font appears to be correct for this particular locomotive.

Donald

OK The real pics

Let this be a final warning to those of you with screwdrivers


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There goes Jim's warranty


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(Oh wait he is the warranty repair guy, never mind)


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Thanks Chris for having a little fun with this post.

Donald

WOW! Excellent, the front hand rails are "as delivered fro EMD". Very cool, even if they didn't last that long.

Anytime Don

I would have posted them sooner but Flickr is blocked from work and the pictures Jim sent me were over the 120kb OGR album limit (except the first one). So I had to wait until I got home.

Hotwater, any idea why they were delivered with the railing blocking the engineer side stairs?

Hello ,
How many axles are driven per truck , and are the trucks rigid with blind wheelsets , how many ?

Thanks in advance Bernie

A picture of the truck assy would be nice

Obviously input from the customer, i.e. Union Pacific Mechanical Dept., since ALL the DD type units where designed SPECIFICALLY for UP. I'm sure GE and ALCO whent through the same "issues" dealing with the Mechanical Dept. design dictates.

PENNSY4EVER,

8 Wheel trucks, the inner most set of wheels on both sets are blind. The middle 4 wheels on each set drive the unit, while the front and rearest set are just free rolling.



Hope this answers.

I have been telling myself the "Eastern District" does not need more motive power...especially another UP giant...I have no willpower........must make a few calls tomorrow!

Donald

Praise be, on the inside it looks just like an MTH diesel. And though the photo of the cab lettering is a little blurred, I think it says "Dependable Smoke Units."

hello guys and gals......
nice pictures, do you have a picture of the bottom of the DD35A showing the wheels and gears ?
the woman who loves toy trains
Tiffany

Looks great so far. I get mine today when ups delivers it which will be late afrernoon. I will post pictures tonight.

-Matt

No front marker lights I see just yellow holes...that's cheezzy.

Matthew, I agree that's how it looks (maybe not holes but plastic that has been painted over). Can't be sure however. The Lionel catalog description says "oscillating ditch lights on front" although can't see where they might be - either on the model or the prototype.

The real DD35's never had ditchlights, did they? Not sure where Lionel got that from - maybe a catalog mistake. Nevertheless, the engine looks awesome. Good first pics!

I fear that it is a catalog mistake; I can't see a DD35 prototype that had them, although I think some DDA40X units did.

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Originally posted by DM&E_Bobby:
The real DD35's never had ditchlights, did they? Not sure where Lionel got that from - maybe a catalog mistake.

The DD35's didn't have ditch lights when they were built, they may have been added later.

It's not unusual for the catalog descritpiton to mentinon or omit something that's not on/on the model. In the case of the American Flyer Challengers, one feature even "verified on the box" is incorrect: there are no engineer and fireman figures and Lionel has no intention of making them for that particular locomotive. I already asked...

Rusty

Can we get some better pics please? Those are pretty awful. So far all we've got is 1.5 pictures of the nose (blurry counts as one half).

From the pics posted, the trucks look pretty bad.

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Originally posted by SB..:
Can we get some better pics please? Those are pretty awful. So far all we've got is 1.5 pictures of the nose (blurry counts as one half).

From the pics posted, the trucks look pretty bad.

So far we have heard from a handful who already got theirs and NO PICTURES. Chris hasn't even received his and managed these pictures. I wouldn't complain at least someone actually posted some. For the other folks that got their and posted nothing...SHAME ON YOU!

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Originally posted by SB..:
Can we get some better pics please? .

Well step on up to the plate fella

quote:

Originally posted by SB..:
Can we get some better pics please? Those are pretty awful. So far all we've got is 1.5 pictures of the nose (blurry counts as one half).

From the pics posted, the trucks look pretty bad.

Your count is off, the box photos are in focus

Chris:

How does it run? Impressions?

John

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Can we get some better pics please? Those are pretty awful. So far all we've got is 1.5 pictures of the nose (blurry counts as one half).

From the pics posted, the trucks look pretty bad.

SB - These were just a few quick Cell Phone pics. I'll try to send them to you first for your approval before ever providing pics in the future.

I'll let you wait for all those others who have taken glorious pics that are toooo good to share.

Game over.

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Originally posted by Matthew:
No front marker lights I see just yellow holes...that's cheezzy.

Although I would like to see more detailed photos, it appears that Lionel may have "combined time frames" concerning the front class lights. The DD35A units where indeed delivered with that odd hand rail on the Engineer's side, ANDclass lights installed in those front nose blanked over positions. Beginning in about the early 1970s, or so, the U.S. railroades began eliminating class lights AND flag brackets. Rather than weld over the places where the class lights where, the railroads just removed the electric light assembly and installed a circular "blanking disc" in the molded weather stipping which held the class lights. Class lights quickly GONE. The Lionel DD35A model appears to have nicely duplicated the "blanked out class lights"!

The DD35A units where also delivered with the air horn mounted on the top of the long hood, between the number 1 and 2 front engine cooling fans.

Some of you guys really need to calm down and take a chill regarding the lights, paint, horns, rivets, the date it was made etc etc...

ITS A TOY!!!!

If its close to being accurate, thats ok with me, but if you want to nit pick everything, Go to HO!!!!!

My Number #72 is being shipped today from the largest dealer...

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ITS A TOY!!!!

There you go fellas, the definitive answer to ALL your questions.

Sorry if I have tried to enlighten some folks about the prototype!

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Sorry if I have tried to enlighten some folks about the prototype!

I think it's great information. I don't see anyone bashing it - pointing out the variations or "evolution" of the thing shouldn't be a crime.

So. How's it run?

John

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I think it's great information. I don't see anyone bashing it - pointing out the variations or "evolution" of the thing shouldn't be a crime.

I agree, and think that it helps to know what the model's design might have been intended to reflect. So good on you Hot Water and don't be deterred.

Of course I am already wondering about modifying mine (when they arrive) with some later era features . . .

How's it run??

The one's at the Train store ran just fine out of the box.

Man, I sure hope the PRR ones match the PRR prototypes. I'll be awfully disappointed if they don't.

Patiently waiting...

They're not toys to me.
They are models of prototypes.
No more toys than architectural models of structures and, therefore, designed to replicate real world applications.
While I'm at it, do not come over and ask if I"m playing with my trains.
I'll lock the bathroom on you.

Eliot

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Originally posted by Hot Water:

quote:

ITS A TOY!!!!

There you go fellas, the definitive answer to ALL your questions.

Sorry if I have tried to enlighten some folks about the prototype!

No worries Hot Water. Sharing information on what the model features (or Toy if one chooses to call it as such) versus the prototype is informational. People can either chose to read such info or they can just pass over it. Based ZWPOWER13's ALL CAPS and four exclamation marks on saying it's a toy, sounds like he's the one that needs to calm down.

Pointing out prototypical information, history, and details as compared to the model being represented doesn't hurt anyone, or at least it shouldn't. For some of us, discussing and comparing such information is part of how we enjoy the hobby. It's not everyone's bag, but that doesn't mean it's a wrong way to enjoy it.